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Post by ClashOfStyles on Jan 14, 2019 23:03:54 GMT -5
Lmfaooo people are actually saying to keep Foles and trade Wentz. Wentz is the better QB and it’s not even close tbh. Acting like the team plays better under Foles like they didn’t go 11-2 with Wentz healthy last year, and would’ve won 3 straight with Wentz before Foles came in if the refs didn’t screw them over in Dallas. Y’all are crazy but I’m really too tired to debate this any further right now 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jan 14, 2019 23:07:20 GMT -5
Not gonna lie, if Im Philly Im trying to get everything I can for Wentz in a trade and signing Foles. The entire team plays better under Foles. You cant deny that and you cant find excuses for that. It isnt always about a "this guy has more talent"...Some of the most talented QBs never won Super Bowls and some of the most mediocre QBs have. Wentz has yet to show he can play a full season. Ive got Jimmy G in the same boat right now. If he get hurt again next year and missing significant time, Im starting the search for another QB to be on the safe side. Facts. 100%.
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Post by sean™ on Jan 14, 2019 23:55:26 GMT -5
Adam Gase got those Judge Doom eyes.
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Post by LK3 on Jan 15, 2019 0:41:09 GMT -5
Adam Gase got those Judge Doom eyes. I don't think I've ever seen him without a hat on. I was very confused because he looked nothing like I thought he looked. I also assumed he had a good amount of hair. So much younger looking with the hat on too.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Jan 15, 2019 7:34:02 GMT -5
Okay now you're certifiable. Dallas had major referee help BOTH games. And that's all I'm gonna say about it. Because I'm not gonna be baited into an argument and get into trouble. I didn't say a damn thing. As long as you don't make any personal attacks or insults, have at it. Nah not you my man. Kenny.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Jan 15, 2019 7:37:12 GMT -5
Lmfaooo people are actually saying to keep Foles and trade Wentz. Wentz is the better QB and it’s not even close tbh. Acting like the team plays better under Foles like they didn’t go 11-2 with Wentz healthy last year, and would’ve won 3 straight with Wentz before Foles came in if the refs didn’t screw them over in Dallas. Y’all are crazy but I’m really too tired to debate this any further right now 🤣🤣🤣 Exactly. Carson is the future of this team, the franchise QB we've needed since Donovan. A few QBs after Donovan: Kevin Kolb [HA!] Michael Vick [Great but really, passed his prime when we had him.] Mark Sanchez [Butt fumble as a franchise guy? Nah. Not after he left NYJ.] Sam Bradford [HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!]
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jan 15, 2019 10:30:46 GMT -5
I didn't say a damn thing. As long as you don't make any personal attacks or insults, have at it. Nah not you my man. Kenny. It's easy to laugh off what people say as crazy. It's also apparently very easy to just completely ignore facts. Facts: Wentz has missed 5 or more games 3 of the last 4 years counting college Wentz has a LOSING RECORD 2 of his 3 years in the pros The 1 winning season he was 11-2, which isn't sustainable year after year The team plays harder for Foles Wentz couldn't move around as well this year, and his rushing stats prove that, down 2 yards per carry from last year. Y'all stay finding any excuse to make for your princess wentz. Newsflash: foles played with the same injured team full of practice squad scrubs, and he got it done. You're in love with potential. That's the type of thing that sets a team back 10 years. Not that you'd even admit being wrong then. It would be more excuses. I'm sure I'm crazy though. Because anything less than Carson wentz being the son of God himself is just ridiculous.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Jan 15, 2019 10:47:55 GMT -5
Nah not you my man. Kenny. It's easy to laugh off what people say as crazy. It's also apparently very easy to just completely ignore facts. Facts: Wentz has missed 5 or more games 3 of the last 4 years counting college Wentz has a LOSING RECORD 2 of his 3 years in the pros The 1 winning season he was 11-2, which isn't sustainable year after year The team plays harder for Foles Wentz couldn't move around as well this year, and his rushing stats prove that, down 2 yards per carry from last year. Y'all stay finding any excuse to make for your princess wentz. Newsflash: foles played with the same injured team full of practice squad scrubs, and he got it done. You're in love with potential. That's the type of thing that sets a team back 10 years. Not that you'd even admit being wrong then. It would be more excuses. I'm sure I'm crazy though. Because anything less than Carson wentz being the son of God himself is just ridiculous. Nah, you are just crazy. No one's "laughing you off" as such. We know you are.
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Post by IRS on Jan 15, 2019 11:28:20 GMT -5
Wentz couldn't move around as well after having knee surgery, which every player that has had it says takes 2 years to fully recover from. Shocking, I tell you. A real damning "fact" there.
He had a losing record his rookie year in a year where he had no receivers, it was Pederson's first season as head coach, and he wasn't even expected to be the team's starting QB going into the season. And he still dragged them to 7-9. Damn. Yeah, more proof he's terrible alright.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jan 15, 2019 11:35:26 GMT -5
Wentz couldn't move around as well after having knee surgery, which every player that has had it says takes 2 years to fully recover from. Shocking, I tell you. A real damning "fact" there. He had a losing record his rookie year in a year where he had no receivers, it was Pederson's first season as head coach, and he wasn't even expected to be the team's starting QB going into the season. And he still dragged them to 7-9. Damn. Yeah, more proof he's terrible alright. Excuses. Right on cue.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jan 15, 2019 11:52:23 GMT -5
It's easy to laugh off what people say as crazy. It's also apparently very easy to just completely ignore facts. Facts: Wentz has missed 5 or more games 3 of the last 4 years counting college Wentz has a LOSING RECORD 2 of his 3 years in the pros The 1 winning season he was 11-2, which isn't sustainable year after year The team plays harder for Foles Wentz couldn't move around as well this year, and his rushing stats prove that, down 2 yards per carry from last year. Y'all stay finding any excuse to make for your princess wentz. Newsflash: foles played with the same injured team full of practice squad scrubs, and he got it done. You're in love with potential. That's the type of thing that sets a team back 10 years. Not that you'd even admit being wrong then. It would be more excuses. I'm sure I'm crazy though. Because anything less than Carson wentz being the son of God himself is just ridiculous. Nah, you are just crazy. No one's "laughing you off" as such. We know you are. Again, you have nothing to say fact wise, so you go to what is a personal insult. If that doesn't scream eagles fan... Wanna know what's crazy? All you eagles fans talking repeat a day after the super bowl last year. Repeat. Repeat? Wouldn't have been a playoff team without Washington playing 4 qbs. Wanna know what's crazier? All that talk about how you were getting Leveon Bell. That worked...well? Or how Golden Tate was gonna be the piece to get the team over the top. Wanna know what's the craziest? The same guy you are saying to let walk now, for free, is the same guy you thought was worth Bell straight up in a trade. But I'm crazy. Nah fella. Eagles fans have that crap trademarked. Or maybe you're genius. Keep wentz. He gets hurt. Play sudfeld. Go 2-14. Draft Tua. That's gotta be the plan.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jan 15, 2019 11:55:57 GMT -5
I wouldn’t make a call until they know the severity of Wentz’s injury. I wouldn’t trade Foles or Wentz. I know it’ll be expensive to keep Nick but he’s the ultimate back-up.
If Wentz is deemed fine after he heals, he’s the starter and future of the franchise without question. IMO.
He was, by far, the MVP last year until his knee injury. He struggled this year, sure. But you’re not going to light the world on fire every single year.
Wentz, when healthy, is the best QB in the NFC East and probably top 5 in the entire league.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Jan 15, 2019 12:19:03 GMT -5
Wentz couldn't move around as well after having knee surgery, which every player that has had it says takes 2 years to fully recover from. Shocking, I tell you. A real damning "fact" there. He had a losing record his rookie year in a year where he had no receivers, it was Pederson's first season as head coach, and he wasn't even expected to be the team's starting QB going into the season. And he still dragged them to 7-9. Damn. Yeah, more proof he's terrible alright. Excuses. Right on cue. No. Everything he said was true. Verifiable FACTS. And everyone knows it. You simply call them excuses because the truth doesn't fit your Eagles and Wentz bashing narrative.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jan 15, 2019 12:33:59 GMT -5
No. Everything he said was true. Verifiable FACTS. And everyone knows it. You simply call them excuses because the truth doesn't fit your Eagles and Wentz bashing narrative. It's excuses. Circumstances many have overcome without having to play the backup. Cam Newton went 15-1, won the mvp with a better season than wentz will ever have, and went to the super bowl, with his best receiver being ted ginn. McVay in his first year as a coach went 11-5 with a qb that had never won a game, and a running back with a history of knee injuries and coming off of a God awful season where LA fans were calling them both busts. Mahomes is in his first year playing. 12 wins. 5000 yards. 50 tds. Mvp. Conference title game. Even lost his running back halfway through the season and the 2nd worst defense in the NFL. Dak Prescott came in the same year as wentz, has won the division twice with awful coaches that nearly everyone alive thinks should be fired. You have to give foles credit for what he did, which is more than wentz has. When Brady went down, cassel missed the playoffs. When Peyton retired, what did Denver do? Losing season. when Peyton got hurt in Indy? They got the 1st pick. The rest of the team didn't change. Same in Philly. But foles took the team up a notch.
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Post by sean™ on Jan 15, 2019 13:53:37 GMT -5
Just my two cents, but I thought Wentz looked like he was rushed back too soon from injury or just never got comfortable.
I’d be willing to give him a full training camp and year before writing him off as the NFC’s Ryan Tannehill.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jan 15, 2019 14:55:51 GMT -5
Just my two cents, but I thought Wentz looked like he was rushed back too soon from injury or just never got comfortable. I’d be willing to give him a full training camp and year before writing him off as the NFC’s Ryan Tannehill. Which is reasonable. I just think it's crazy to say wentz is for sure the guy with his injury history and what foles accomplished. If they said, we really don't know but we're gonna roll the dice with wentz, the fans would freak out, but honestly that's all they're doing. They can't know for sure or feel great about it.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Jan 15, 2019 15:05:30 GMT -5
Doug said today Carson IS the starter. So no use in going back and forth anymore. He's the coach. The front office trusted him to make a decision and he made it.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jan 15, 2019 15:07:25 GMT -5
No. Everything he said was true. Verifiable FACTS. And everyone knows it. You simply call them excuses because the truth doesn't fit your Eagles and Wentz bashing narrative. It's excuses. Circumstances many have overcome without having to play the backup. Cam Newton went 15-1, won the mvp with a better season than wentz will ever have, and went to the super bowl, with his best receiver being ted ginn. McVay in his first year as a coach went 11-5 with a qb that had never won a game, and a running back with a history of knee injuries and coming off of a God awful season where LA fans were calling them both busts. Mahomes is in his first year playing. 12 wins. 5000 yards. 50 tds. Mvp. Conference title game. Even lost his running back halfway through the season and the 2nd worst defense in the NFL. Dak Prescott came in the same year as wentz, has won the division twice with awful coaches that nearly everyone alive thinks should be fired. You have to give foles credit for what he did, which is more than wentz has. When Brady went down, cassel missed the playoffs. When Peyton retired, what did Denver do? Losing season. when Peyton got hurt in Indy? They got the 1st pick. The rest of the team didn't change. Same in Philly. But foles took the team up a notch. The Pats and Cassel missed the playoffs at 11-5. That record likely gets you a top 3 seed any year but that year. Cassel also had a really good year and can’t be blamed for them missing the playoffs. Not that it really matters. I just think that year often gets looked over because NE had a awesome season with a backup QB
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jan 15, 2019 15:14:01 GMT -5
It's excuses. Circumstances many have overcome without having to play the backup. Cam Newton went 15-1, won the mvp with a better season than wentz will ever have, and went to the super bowl, with his best receiver being ted ginn. McVay in his first year as a coach went 11-5 with a qb that had never won a game, and a running back with a history of knee injuries and coming off of a God awful season where LA fans were calling them both busts. Mahomes is in his first year playing. 12 wins. 5000 yards. 50 tds. Mvp. Conference title game. Even lost his running back halfway through the season and the 2nd worst defense in the NFL. Dak Prescott came in the same year as wentz, has won the division twice with awful coaches that nearly everyone alive thinks should be fired. You have to give foles credit for what he did, which is more than wentz has. When Brady went down, cassel missed the playoffs. When Peyton retired, what did Denver do? Losing season. when Peyton got hurt in Indy? They got the 1st pick. The rest of the team didn't change. Same in Philly. But foles took the team up a notch. The Pats and Cassel missed the playoffs at 11-5. That record likely gets you a top 3 seed any year but that year. Cassel also had a really good year and can’t be blamed for them missing the playoffs. Not that it really matters. I just think that year often gets looked over because NE had a awesome season with a backup QB Fair enough. But missing the playoffs is a step back from the standards of the Brady era.
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Post by sean™ on Jan 15, 2019 15:39:44 GMT -5
The company where I work has an autographed game worn pair of cleats from Matt Cassel that have been sitting there since 2009
That doesn’t have anything to do with this discussion. It’s just the only time I could’ve logically brought it up .
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