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Post by marino13 on Oct 7, 2016 14:41:55 GMT -5
Not sure what that has to do with what I said. That the reason they are do matches like this because they are desperate for star power. Other than John Cena what stars have they made over the last 10 years. other them maybe the shield guys. I never questioned why they want to book it though. I questioned who that benefited. And the response " Because of their inability to make new stars" doesn't answer that.
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Post by Dan on Oct 8, 2016 17:42:52 GMT -5
I just can't get my heard around this one. It's a lose-lose situation surely? It's illogical booking to have Goldberg return for the first time in 12 years only to lose his first Match back. It will instantly devalue his return. On the flip side, there is absolutely no way that he should be the one that finally beats Lesnar clean.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Oct 8, 2016 18:12:43 GMT -5
I just can't get my heard around this one. It's a lose-lose situation surely? It's illogical booking to have Goldberg return for the first time in 12 years only to lose his first Match back. It will instantly devalue his return. On the flip side, there is absolutely no way that he should be the one that finally beats Lesnar clean. Who should then? (Please don't say Joe)
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Post by Kasper on Oct 8, 2016 19:26:11 GMT -5
I just can't get my heard around this one. It's a lose-lose situation surely? It's illogical booking to have Goldberg return for the first time in 12 years only to lose his first Match back. It will instantly devalue his return. On the flip side, there is absolutely no way that he should be the one that finally beats Lesnar clean. Who should then? (Please don't say Joe) Easily.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Oct 8, 2016 19:40:46 GMT -5
Who should then? (Please don't say Joe) Easily. Woah, I said who should beat Brock not who should end his career 😂😂
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Oct 8, 2016 20:35:05 GMT -5
I just can't get my heard around this one. It's a lose-lose situation surely? It's illogical booking to have Goldberg return for the first time in 12 years only to lose his first Match back. It will instantly devalue his return. On the flip side, there is absolutely no way that he should be the one that finally beats Lesnar clean. Who should then? (Please don't say Joe) Easy Reigns or Rollins.Either one works,both are main eventers and stars right now and are still pretty young only being around 30 or so.They could use a win over Brock as a defining moment of their careers and really cement them at the top and as bankable draws and stars. So less obvious choices would be Cesaro,Zayn or maybe one of the young guys on the roster or in NXT that haven't gotten their big break yet.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Oct 8, 2016 20:37:01 GMT -5
Who should then? (Please don't say Joe) Easy Reigns or Rollins.Either one works,both are main eventers and stars right now and are still pretty young only being around 30 or so.They could use a win over Brock as a defining moment of their careers and really cement them at the top and as bankable draws and stars. So less obvious choices would be Cesaro,Zayn or maybe one of the young guys on the roster or in NXT that haven't gotten their big break yet. They've built brock up so much that the only one that I could actually see have a chance would be reigns. Reigns has that move set where the moves come out of no where which would make it more believable.
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Post by rudos on Oct 8, 2016 21:02:05 GMT -5
Not interested in Brock vs anyone but KO at this stage.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Oct 8, 2016 21:04:12 GMT -5
Not interested in Brock vs anyone but KO at this stage. This and Styles for me. Lesnar/Styles would be a damn good match. Especially if they let AJ look as good as he has against Reigns and Cena.
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Post by IRS on Oct 8, 2016 21:11:31 GMT -5
Not interested in Brock vs anyone but KO at this stage. This and Styles for me. Lesnar/Styles would be a damn good match. Especially if they let AJ look as good as he has against Reigns and Cena. I'd also throw Nakamura in there myself. But Styles going over Lesnar would probably cause me to have a stroke from marking out so hard.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Oct 8, 2016 21:13:25 GMT -5
This and Styles for me. Lesnar/Styles would be a damn good match. Especially if they let AJ look as good as he has against Reigns and Cena. I'd also throw Nakamura in there myself. But Styles going over Lesnar would probably cause me to have a stroke from marking out so hard. That applies to all three of those guys for me. Seeing Owens, Styles or Nakamura go over Lesnar would be the equivalent of watching Bryan win at Mania 30 for me.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Oct 8, 2016 22:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by Rude Awakening on Oct 8, 2016 22:49:49 GMT -5
By the way this is not my image because I would've voted for lesnar, cena, or taker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 12:56:28 GMT -5
That the reason they are do matches like this because they are desperate for star power. Other than John Cena what stars have they made over the last 10 years. other them maybe the shield guys. I never questioned why they want to book it though. I questioned who that benefited. And the response " Because of their inability to make new stars" doesn't answer that. It benefits WWE they are hoping fans hear. Goldberg is wrestling and subscribe to the network. Which means more money in their pocket.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 9, 2016 13:33:39 GMT -5
I never questioned why they want to book it though. I questioned who that benefited. And the response " Because of their inability to make new stars" doesn't answer that. It benefits WWE they are hoping fans hear. Goldberg is wrestling and subscribe to the network. Which means more money in their pocket. Sigh.... I am asking about Brock or Shane. Which of them benefits from this? It was fairly simple to understand and yet you keep missing it. You keep trying to respond to my posts with things that aren't making any sense. Please stop cause it's borderline spamming at this point.
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Post by Flair Forever on Oct 10, 2016 11:21:06 GMT -5
I still think that John Cena VS. Bill Goldberg is the "Money Match" that WWE doesn't see in front of them........
I feel like it could have that same magic that Hogan/Rock at 'Mania 18 had, if they would do it right.....
Superman VS. Superman..... but it could be a lot of fun....
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Post by rob29 on Oct 10, 2016 12:16:39 GMT -5
But the only drawback is, Lesnar and Goldberg have zero chemistry together, their wrestlemania 20 match was about as thrilling as a dentist appointment - the 2 just don't 'click', there's no spark.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Oct 12, 2016 16:55:17 GMT -5
-- I posted prior but revised my comments.
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Since Goldberg IS coming in... the absolute smartest thing World Wrestling Entertainment could do at this point.... is have them meet at Survivor Series. Mid-way through the match, Heyman grabs the mic, interrupts the match by getting into the ring and cutting a worked-shoot that favors both Brock and Bill. Paul ultimately convinces both that they would be better as an alliance than as enemies. Now you've got The Super Powers (or Super Alliance, whatever moniker you want to imagine they'd use...they'd be a super duo none the less).
This would be the team to take the straps off of New Day, because with the failure of Luke & Karl's attempts, it makes perfect sense for a super duo to win the Tag titles. All 3 of New Day would be welcomed to face the duo of Brock & Bill, as Kofi and Xavier could make both men look like a million $, add Big E as the counterpart to give New Day a fighting chance, and the match could actually be good. This would take place at the RoadBlock PPV.
And after the Royal Rumble rematch, the duo just destroy New Day. This opens the door for Samoa Joe's music to hit, come to the save, gets beaten down by Brock & Bill, Shinske's music hits. Both he and Joe are able to fend off Brock & Bill. New Day could potentially be off of TV for the time being.
So you've got 2 unlikely duos feuding, that leads to the WrestleMania RAW Tag Team Championship match: Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman & Goldberg (c) vs. Samoa Joe & Shinske Nakamura; New Day make their return to cost Brock & Bill the match (expect a HUGE pop for their return!) - Joe & Shinkse take advantage and become to the NEW Tag champs. Post match: Brock turns on Goldberg, he and Paul leave as Goldberg gets to his feet and gives that angered stare at Lesnar, which helps him regain his babyface status.
And this leads to Brock conquering Bill once and for all, at the following PPV.
-- This plan allows for everything to fall into place; A suitable team to dethrone New Day's title reign. Brock remains the dominate one at end of the feud (which I'm guessing is their plan going into this). Bill gets that chance he's wanted since his son was born: to be able to perform LIVE for him, so his son can see him wrestle (as an added bonus, a championship reign involved as well, so the kid gets to see his dad as a champion...all be it a heelish champion, but a champion none the less). New Day, although no longer Tag champs, get a new lease to their characters and get to establish the hunt for the belts back, as well as putting over new teams along the way. Lastly, it gives Joe and Shinske an immediate push, upon entering the main roster. They could have their own little "inner" feud, seeing as they're enemies, but working together on a common ground out of respect for one another (which would have to be developed on NXT prior to the Royal Rumble).
This 6 month duration would also help increase sales of the video game, Goldberg merch (classic, new solo, and new "super duo" merch w/ Brock & Paul), and promote a variety of Goldberg collections on the Network, boosting Network sales.
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Post by Yayo on Oct 13, 2016 8:18:51 GMT -5
This match will be awful, but it will still attract more viewers than just about any other match WWE can present right now. Blame the nostalgia hounds and anti-"Indy darling" crowd for that
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Post by xtremebadass on Oct 13, 2016 8:37:45 GMT -5
I just can't get my heard around this one. It's a lose-lose situation surely? It's illogical booking to have Goldberg return for the first time in 12 years only to lose his first Match back. It will instantly devalue his return. On the flip side, there is absolutely no way that he should be the one that finally beats Lesnar clean. Who said anything about the finish being clean? It is totally feasible to have Goldberg win after some Shane McMahon interference. Doesn't hurt Brock at all and you can still make Goldberg look like a monster during portions of that match only to get manhandled by Lesnar later on prior to getting screwed by Shane. This is 2016 WWE where 90% of the time the finish of any match isn't clean.
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