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Post by Kanenite on Feb 27, 2017 15:23:16 GMT -5
She was going to make it in someday so it's not a bad choice but at the same time she's so recent that it's a little odd.
I was guessing Sable, Ivory, Molly, Victoria, Torrie or Stacy before I heard the rumours of Beth.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 27, 2017 15:39:45 GMT -5
I would say this is deserved but a little odd in timing as should never officially retired and still could have potentially came back. But to those calling it a joke, she is a multi-time champion, 1 of the only 3 women to enter the Rumble, and was part of the company for 6 years (8 if you count OVW). And to show a bit of hypocrisy in some of you, being a wrestle was her dream, so much so that she became an amateur wrestler in high school (first woman in her school history). She made the varsity team and won two titles. She also didn't devolve into a mess and would be the first wrestler to go in from her era (debuting in RA era).
To those saying Victoria should be going in instead, she is still wrestling. To those saying Chyna, her estate is currently in dispute as her mother is trying to seize control of it from Chyna's manager, who enabled her actions in her final few years at the least. To those saying Ivory, she was just put into WWE 2K17's HoF 2016 Showcase, so it is more a business decision and she'll probably go in within the next few years.
Also, who is to say Beth is the only woman going in this year? They usually induct 5 wrestlers, a manager, a celebrity, and a tag team/stable. 3 wrestlers, a manager, and a tag team have been announced. That leaves a celebrity and 2 wrestlers. The only other names I have heard floating around this year are Rick Rude and Molly Holly, which would take the two remaining wrestler spots.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 15:42:48 GMT -5
Just more proof the WWE HOF is a complete joke. If I was a wrestler and they called me to tell me I'm a new inductee into the HOF, I'd say no thanks. No you wouldnt. your just another one of those, "I hate WWE, but buy tickets, watch the shows, buy the merchadise, and then bitch about them" people If you were a wrestler, you would have already failed. just on your answer alone I watch wrestling all around the world, so it makes sense to watch WWE regardless if I love the full product or not. And no, a HOF that includes Trump, Snoop Dogg, Teddy Long, Abdullah, is no real Hall of Fame. It's an insult to be an hall of fame that includes people like that. The WWE HOF is a joke. Everyone knows this. One day Eugene and spike dudley will be in the hall of fame too. Maybe jamie noble and billy kidman deserve a spot.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Feb 27, 2017 15:45:03 GMT -5
Eh, whatever. I agree there are plenty of others who should go before her.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 27, 2017 15:47:32 GMT -5
Beth left the WWE 5 years ago and is already getting inducted into the HOF? Sorry but that's way too early and there are other women who are more deserving. This is obviously to please Edge. Edge, Eddie, Sting, Michaels, Flair, and Foley (full retirement) were all announced for the Hall of Fame within a year of retiring (passing away in Eddie's case).
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Post by dontquestionmyhart on Feb 27, 2017 15:49:24 GMT -5
I can think of a number of women more deserving of being inducted in the HOF. Victoria comes to mind immediately, Molly Holly, Chyna, Ivory, Jazz. Hell, even Sable.
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Post by TurboEddie on Feb 27, 2017 15:54:18 GMT -5
She deserves to be inducted, but the timing is off.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 27, 2017 15:55:43 GMT -5
Beth Phoenix in Hall of Fame after being retired for like 5 years?
Rick Rude is not in the Hall of Fame.
Is this real life?
I'm no saying she does or does not deserve it because wrestling stats and accomplishments are fabricated....but why so soon? She didn't have to retire due to any sudden or tragic circumstances...she retired to crank out Edge's kids.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Feb 27, 2017 15:57:41 GMT -5
I think she was definitely underutilized in an era where beauty was more important than in ring ability. It's a shame she left right before the "revolution" that she would be such a great part of. I don't think she should be going in before Chyna, Ivory or Victoria. I do believe she should have gone in, at a later date of course but hey it is what it is. Congrats.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 27, 2017 16:01:43 GMT -5
The Hall of Fame is a show. A show for Vince to make money on at Wrestlemania weekend from the fans that attend it.
I had a thread a week or so ago about this, how I found it ridiculous that even in Kayfabe standards that Ivan Koloff wasn't in the HOF yet. But like someone said, the HOF is a night where fans and other wrestlers wanna hear funny stories about things. That's what the HOF has become.
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Post by TheLastDude on Feb 27, 2017 16:03:42 GMT -5
As has been said over and over again: The HOF is a business transaction. It's there to celebrate people who are on good terms with Vince and the company.
Has anybody ever stopped to think that maybe the estates of deceased wrestlers are difficult to work with, or there were behind the scenes things that soured the relationship that nobody knows about?
Lots of things can and will hinder business transactions.
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Post by PJ on Feb 27, 2017 16:05:58 GMT -5
It doesn't matter, but it seems like they could have waited to put her in. Ivory, Molly or Victoria would have been a better option. There are others like Sable, but maybe she doesn't care to do it. I can't wait to hear Kelly Kelly induct her. (I'm guessing) Wait isn't Ivory already in? She is part of this year's HoF Showcase for 2K17.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 27, 2017 16:07:14 GMT -5
No you wouldnt. your just another one of those, "I hate WWE, but buy tickets, watch the shows, buy the merchadise, and then bitch about them" people If you were a wrestler, you would have already failed. just on your answer alone I watch wrestling all around the world, so it makes sense to watch WWE regardless if I love the full product or not. And no, a HOF that includes Trump, Snoop Dogg, Teddy Long, Abdullah, is no real Hall of Fame. It's an insult to be an hall of fame that includes people like that. The WWE HOF is a joke. Everyone knows this. One day Eugene and spike dudley will be in the hall of fame too. Maybe jamie noble and billy kidman deserve a spot. All of those guys have a valid reason for going in, the first 2 are also in the celebrity wing. Trump is very good friends with Vince and has had a lot of involvement with WWE. Snoop Dogg has a better claim than a lot of the other celebrities as aside from just making multiple appearances, he is Sasha's cousin and helped her come up with "The Boss". Teddy Long was an onscreen personality, manager, and referee for 29 years. Abdullah has probably had the longest wrestling career of all time (52-53 years at the time).
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Post by torriefan4life on Feb 27, 2017 16:08:22 GMT -5
This is horrible, but the HOF is pretty much a joke now anyways.
Elizabeth, Chyna, Sable, Torrie, Molly Holly, Ivory, and probably more ladies deserve in before Beth. She didn't even have that memorable of a run, but oh well.
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Post by Sizzle on Feb 27, 2017 16:09:24 GMT -5
It doesn't matter, but it seems like they could have waited to put her in. Ivory, Molly or Victoria would have been a better option. There are others like Sable, but maybe she doesn't care to do it. I can't wait to hear Kelly Kelly induct her. (I'm guessing) Wait isn't Ivory already in? She is part of this year's HoF Showcase for 2K17. It's Jacqueline that went in.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Feb 27, 2017 16:22:54 GMT -5
She had a pretty good career and will always be remembered for eliminating Khali in the rumble. Was she HOF worthy? Yeah I suppose but she's going in a lot sooner than I expected. Also, are her and Edge first couple to be WWE Hall of Famers? Moolah and Mae never an officially announced couple, but we all knew they were more than just roommates. Edge and Lita were a couple. Sunny was a couple with most of the locker room for at least one night including (allegedly) HBK and Bret.Are you lying on purpose, or have you not seen the Sunny shoot where she (A) Confirms she was banging Shawn for 6 months (B) Denies ever doing anything with Bret.
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Post by ARUN on Feb 27, 2017 16:36:18 GMT -5
I originally wasn't crazy about this but now that I think about it, Drew Carey went into the HOF before Bruno, Macho man and Warrior.
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Post by marino13 on Feb 27, 2017 16:44:55 GMT -5
Don't know why so many feel the need to take it personal. It's not like she bumped you from getting inducted.
Do I think it's a tad too early? Yup.
Do I think she had a good enough career? Sure.
Am I going to get upset about her induction? Nope.
One more thing I'd like to add, any of Beth's short comings were do to her being a victim of the times. She was a legit wrestler in a roster full of barbie dolls. If she was around now, we'd see how good she truly was.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 27, 2017 16:58:29 GMT -5
Moolah and Mae never an officially announced couple, but we all knew they were more than just roommates. Edge and Lita were a couple. Sunny was a couple with most of the locker room for at least one night including (allegedly) HBK and Bret.Are you lying on purpose, or have you not seen the Sunny shoot where she (A) Confirms she was banging Shawn for 6 months (B) Denies ever doing anything with Bret. Did you not hear that Sunny admitted to fabricating things in multiple shoot interviews?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Feb 27, 2017 17:02:26 GMT -5
I love Beth Phoenix, one of my favorites in the era she was in, but there's more women that should have this induction a little sooner than her. Congrats to her anyways. Hope she enjoys her induction
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