stargasm
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Post by stargasm on May 20, 2017 2:29:45 GMT -5
Please no more re-release, maybe a repaint but these re-releases are a bore. I don't care about the value just want to move on with new attires and more 1st time in the line.
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Post by PJ on May 20, 2017 5:00:49 GMT -5
Who cares if it is a straight rerelease? Hell they can rerelease he same exact figure once a year and it wouldn't make any difference to me. That said I doubt they rerelease it unless there is another Lost Legends lineup in the future. That or if Hogan is OK'ed again and they release a NWO BatB 3-Pack.
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Post by #HANDSOME1 on May 20, 2017 6:29:31 GMT -5
At this rate prob a good chance with a slight difference done.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 7:14:01 GMT -5
Black pants red top would be great
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nwo4lyfe
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Post by nwo4lyfe on May 20, 2017 8:13:22 GMT -5
Let's just get a outsiders ELITE 2 pack.
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Post by tylergfromthe513 on May 20, 2017 9:37:58 GMT -5
I think they should re release that and NWO Macho and maybe a few carefully picked figures. If you got them good for you. The people that never got a chance should get a shot at them for retail prices and not these atrociously inflatted scalper prices. Look I understand what you are saying, but to say others didn't get a chance isn't true. If you weren't collecting then, unfortunately you miss out. It's not that u didn't have a chance, u had as much chance as everyone else at the time. Now I completely agree that everyone should have an opportunity to own a Kevin Nash from this era, but a straight re-issue is just lazy on Mattels behalf - and I hope every single one of them warms hard. It wouldn't take much to repaint it, and give newer collectors a chance to get Outsiders Nash. And people who sell their Nash figures now are not scalpers, they brought something and now it has gone up in value. After years and years, because of supply and demand. More want it, then have it - price goes up. Scapling refers to short term market gains. Eg. I walk into Walmart, see all the Balors - buy them and list them all on eBay preventing others from getting them at a fair market value (retail). What has happened with some (very few) older figures is the fair market value has increased, by chance and circumstance. It's not the same thing and it's unfair to call anyone who is selling a older figure at fair market value a scalper - just because it's worth is greater then retail. Struck a nerve did I? Look, Im really flattered that you would give me the definition of a scalper, really I am. Though Ive had plenty experience dealing with that type of scum so your condescending essay is not needed here. I detect some sensitivity in regards to these "high value" figures though. Now, I know that you dont want your toys to feel any less important and that obviously really upsets you at the slightest thought, but this is absolutely immature. I said, a couple "carefully picked figures" not re release the entire catalog. I would prefer people to all have a FAIR shot at these but thats coming from someone that just likes collecting not someone thats obsessed with a toys market value/depreciation.
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Post by jayrod2009 on May 20, 2017 9:56:36 GMT -5
Look I understand what you are saying, but to say others didn't get a chance isn't true. If you weren't collecting then, unfortunately you miss out. It's not that u didn't have a chance, u had as much chance as everyone else at the time. Now I completely agree that everyone should have an opportunity to own a Kevin Nash from this era, but a straight re-issue is just lazy on Mattels behalf - and I hope every single one of them warms hard. It wouldn't take much to repaint it, and give newer collectors a chance to get Outsiders Nash. And people who sell their Nash figures now are not scalpers, they brought something and now it has gone up in value. After years and years, because of supply and demand. More want it, then have it - price goes up. Scapling refers to short term market gains. Eg. I walk into Walmart, see all the Balors - buy them and list them all on eBay preventing others from getting them at a fair market value (retail). What has happened with some (very few) older figures is the fair market value has increased, by chance and circumstance. It's not the same thing and it's unfair to call anyone who is selling a older figure at fair market value a scalper - just because it's worth is greater then retail. Struck a nerve did I? Look, Im really flattered that you would give me the definition of a scalper, really I am. Though Ive had plenty experience dealing with that type of scum so your condescending essay is not needed here. I detect some sensitivity in regards to these "high value" figures though. Now, I know that you dont want your toys to feel any less important and that obviously really upsets you at the slightest thought, but this is absolutely immature. I said, a couple "carefully picked figures" not re release the entire catalog. I would prefer people to all have a FAIR shot at these but thats coming from someone that just likes collecting not someone thats obsessed with a toys market value/depreciation. Figures with "high shelf value" can be a big deterrence to new collectors. Many can't afford to drop $100 on one figure. I feel, with any company in any industry, if the demand is there, and the ability to place it in the market again without distrubting current waves, I say flood the market. Why let Johnny McScalpitall hoard "rare" figures to slowly drop on ebay $40 above typical selling prices just bleeding the availability of the figure thus driving the current price up to his asking price. Its a sick game, and honestly, its plastic. Your toy has is no different from plastic forks or wiffle ball bats. I say, lets make all collectors happy. If you want chase figures, or the alpha male feelings with superiority over collectors, go collect comics or Hot Toys. Lets not forget, these are mass produced and somewhere is a Nash, Diesel, and old RSC exclusives sitting in a basket at Johnsonville Towns flea market collecting dust surrounded by He-Man and GI Joes... Value never lasts, eventually these things will crack, warp, chip, fade, stick, and stink. Lets keep the community happy and healthy.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on May 20, 2017 10:20:59 GMT -5
I reread some of the opinions on this thread and honestly I'm okay with rereleases as long as it's not of a person who I want a new attire in ex. elite 51 Hall. Many wanted him rereleased, but there were others who wanted him in red. If it were to be rereleased it would of most likely delayed the red version or in some cases like figures who only get one release really leave collectors upset. Now I have a question for everyone here, if you had a figure that was fetching $40 would you let it go for retail or less?
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Post by jfinnomore on May 20, 2017 13:17:54 GMT -5
I'd be stoked on it, couldn't find it when it was realized at retail now it goes for a pretty penny on eBay. I'm game for a repainted as well though
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Post by kgchampion on May 20, 2017 14:56:49 GMT -5
I'm surprised they didn't put him in Lost Legends. Undertaker was around for a year at every Walmart here. Kamala, wtf? One of those spots should have gone to E16 Nash because I couldn't find it online for under $100 by E20. I'm real thankful to have RSC Nash.
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Post by kgchampion on May 20, 2017 15:01:07 GMT -5
I reread some of the opinions on this thread and honestly I'm okay with rereleases as long as it's not of a person who I want a new attire in ex. elite 51 Hall. Many wanted him rereleased, but there were others who wanted him in red. If it were to be rereleased it would of most likely delayed the red version or in some cases like figures who only get one release really leave collectors upset. Now I have a question for everyone here, if you had a figure that was fetching $40 would you let it go for retail or less? I'm positive Mattel would never rerelease an RSC exclusive. That's why I've given up hope on ever getting an '02-''03 Kane. But maybe I'll get lucky and they'll do one wothout the removable mask.
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Post by Mongo Bears on May 20, 2017 15:04:56 GMT -5
I reread some of the opinions on this thread and honestly I'm okay with rereleases as long as it's not of a person who I want a new attire in ex. elite 51 Hall. Many wanted him rereleased, but there were others who wanted him in red. If it were to be rereleased it would of most likely delayed the red version or in some cases like figures who only get one release really leave collectors upset. Now I have a question for everyone here, if you had a figure that was fetching $40 would you let it go for retail or less? I'm positive Mattel would never rerelease an RSC exclusive. That's why I've given up hope on ever getting an '02-''03 Kane. But maybe I'll get lucky and they'll do one wothout the removable mask. They rereleased rse cactus jack and rse stone cold pretty much.
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Post by 💯ULTIMATE💯 on May 20, 2017 15:05:15 GMT -5
I'm down for another release of the outsiders Nash but with some changes like a new brown haired head sculpt, white wrist tape and his "forgotten red vest". It'll be a first ever release for this vest seeing how it was never released in figure form. Let's make magic Bill/ MattelDesignTeam and be the first to release this unique vest. You know these nWo figures sell like hot cakes
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maske2g
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Post by maske2g on May 20, 2017 15:10:19 GMT -5
I'm positive Mattel would never rerelease an RSC exclusive. That's why I've given up hope on ever getting an '02-''03 Kane. But maybe I'll get lucky and they'll do one wothout the removable mask. They rereleased rse cactus jack and rse stone cold pretty much. And amazon Mankind and SDCc taker. Its frankly a disgrace. Dont call something an exclusive, sell it at an inflated price, then make 10000 of them. It's fraud. If that was in the UK Mattel would get their arse handed to them.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on May 20, 2017 15:17:04 GMT -5
I reread some of the opinions on this thread and honestly I'm okay with rereleases as long as it's not of a person who I want a new attire in ex. elite 51 Hall. Many wanted him rereleased, but there were others who wanted him in red. If it were to be rereleased it would of most likely delayed the red version or in some cases like figures who only get one release really leave collectors upset. Now I have a question for everyone here, if you had a figure that was fetching $40 would you let it go for retail or less? I'm positive Mattel would never rerelease an RSC exclusive. That's why I've given up hope on ever getting an '02-''03 Kane. But maybe I'll get lucky and they'll do one wothout the removable mask. They rereleased rse cactus jack and rse stone cold pretty much. And amazon Mankind and SDCc taker. Its frankly a disgrace. Dont call something an exclusive, sell it at an inflated price, then make 10000 of them. It's fraud. If that was in the UK Mattel would get their arse handed to them. They've pretty much rereleased the RSE Brock too, I just find it annoying that we pay these prices at RSE and then it's released again at retail. If that was the case, I'd wait it out. Same thing with Wolfpac Sting it's a retail release by all means, nothing special about that figure imo and I guarantee that Mattel will rerelease it at some point.
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Post by Mongo Bears on May 20, 2017 15:19:04 GMT -5
They rereleased rse cactus jack and rse stone cold pretty much. And amazon Mankind and SDCc taker. Its frankly a disgrace. Dont call something an exclusive, sell it at an inflated price, then make 10000 of them. It's fraud. If that was in the UK Mattel would get their arse handed to them. The Sdcc taker rerelease took wind out of my sail as a collector. Mainly because there was a lot of hype over that dm spot. There will never be a rerelease I hate more than that one.
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Post by Chewdeezy on May 20, 2017 15:44:55 GMT -5
And amazon Mankind and SDCc taker. Its frankly a disgrace. Dont call something an exclusive, sell it at an inflated price, then make 10000 of them. It's fraud. If that was in the UK Mattel would get their arse handed to them. The Sdcc taker rerelease took wind out of my sail as a collector. Mainly because there was a lot of hype over that dm spot. There will never be a rerelease I hate more than that one. Same, that's why I sold most of my old figures since Mattel will rerelease it anyways.
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Post by rastlinfigures on May 20, 2017 16:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by fmwpt on May 20, 2017 16:39:14 GMT -5
I'm down for another release of the outsiders Nash but with some changes like a new brown haired head sculpt, white wrist tape and his "forgotten red vest". It'll be a first ever release for this vest seeing how it was never released in figure form. Let's make magic Bill/ MattelDesignTeam and be the first to release this unique vest. You know these nWo figures sell like hot cakes This! But if he brings the NWO title it would be even better!
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Post by Vamp55 on May 20, 2017 16:46:37 GMT -5
Look I understand what you are saying, but to say others didn't get a chance isn't true. If you weren't collecting then, unfortunately you miss out. It's not that u didn't have a chance, u had as much chance as everyone else at the time. Now I completely agree that everyone should have an opportunity to own a Kevin Nash from this era, but a straight re-issue is just lazy on Mattels behalf - and I hope every single one of them warms hard. It wouldn't take much to repaint it, and give newer collectors a chance to get Outsiders Nash. And people who sell their Nash figures now are not scalpers, they brought something and now it has gone up in value. After years and years, because of supply and demand. More want it, then have it - price goes up. Scapling refers to short term market gains. Eg. I walk into Walmart, see all the Balors - buy them and list them all on eBay preventing others from getting them at a fair market value (retail). What has happened with some (very few) older figures is the fair market value has increased, by chance and circumstance. It's not the same thing and it's unfair to call anyone who is selling a older figure at fair market value a scalper - just because it's worth is greater then retail. Struck a nerve did I? Look, Im really flattered that you would give me the definition of a scalper, really I am. Though Ive had plenty experience dealing with that type of scum so your condescending essay is not needed here. I detect some sensitivity in regards to these "high value" figures though. Now, I know that you dont want your toys to feel any less important and that obviously really upsets you at the slightest thought, but this is absolutely immature. I said, a couple "carefully picked figures" not re release the entire catalog. I would prefer people to all have a FAIR shot at these but thats coming from someone that just likes collecting not someone thats obsessed with a toys market value/depreciation. Nah, u didn't hit a nerve. I have never collected nor will I ever collect for value. Much safer ways to make money. Sure if something goes up in value I'm happy about that, and I believe Mattel should protect the secondary market as it promotes the overall product and brings new collectors in. This increases the amount of new figures we see, which is good for everyone. I guess what I struggle to understand is how it's unfair for those that didn't buy it the first time around? I wish I had a full set of MOC Hasbro's. But I don't .. It's not unfair that I don't have them, and I don't expect/want Hasbro (or Mattel) to reissue them so I can get them. And I certainly don't expect a collector who has them to sell them at retail to keep it 'fair' (which you seemed to imply in your first post, by referencing the increased value as scalper prices). I just don't see the link between someone who doesn't have a toy, believing they were disadvantaged... Maybe we just look at things differently. So we might just have to agree to disagree. I for one, would love another Outsiders Nash. Just not the one we have already have, as reissues tend to warm (Boss Man, Taker, DM Taker, Kamala, WM6 Warrior), and their are soooooo many other variations we could have. Let's get a re-paint of Nash.
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