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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 9, 2017 16:28:47 GMT -5
Im not sure how loved Nakamura is. The way he is hyped on Smackdown with vignettes constantly makes me believe WWE is also not sure how he is being received or knows he aint being received well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 17:12:43 GMT -5
He was one of my favorite wrestlers while in NXT but now my excitement to watch him is slowly going downhill.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 9, 2017 18:45:57 GMT -5
What do we consider the "casual fan"? Nakamura's theme is sung and people cheer and we say "well its mostly males that are doing that"....ok well Cena is cheered and its mostly females doing that, does that mean Cena isnt over with the "casual fan"?
The "casual fan" is completely irrelevant. There's a reason they're casual. Whether its TV taping or a house show Nakamura gets a response from the crowd. People who paid money to put their butts in a seat are making noise for him. He's good.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Jun 10, 2017 5:07:18 GMT -5
With the ratings what they have been....is there even such a thing as "casual fans" anymore? As for Nakamura, i think its still a feeling out process in terms of his main roster era.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 16:06:17 GMT -5
I love the dude who brought up ratings hahahaha it's not 1998 anymore. The show is used to sell things like the network and merch. Please stop acting like the attitude era is gonna happen again
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Post by ricflair4ever on Jun 11, 2017 17:33:56 GMT -5
I love the dude who brought up ratings hahahaha it's not 1998 anymore. The show is used to sell things like the network and merch. Please stop acting like the attitude era is gonna happen again You're right. Its not the AE .....people watched then. I'm not using the ratings as some tool to behold a hope for the AE to hapoen again...I'm referencing them as a barometer of the fact that the previous weeks' ratings indicate that, at best, the hardcore audience is all thats paying attention right now. Casuals are fewer and further between. I agree the shows themselves are basically ads for thr Network, or whatever social or charitable things the WWE is involved in, but that doesn't change the fact that they're advertising to ,predominantly, the same people week in and week out.
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Post by BSR on Jun 11, 2017 22:35:12 GMT -5
I love the dude who brought up ratings hahahaha it's not 1998 anymore. The show is used to sell things like the network and merch. Please stop acting like the attitude era is gonna happen again Lol.... What?
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Post by IRS on Jun 11, 2017 23:40:43 GMT -5
I love the dude who brought up ratings hahahaha it's not 1998 anymore. The show is used to sell things like the network and merch. Please stop acting like the attitude era is gonna happen again Yeah, it's not like WWE makes a huge chunk of their income from their TV deal or anything. And plummeting ratings definitely wouldn't cost them money in their next negotiations. Nope. Those 1.5M Network subscribers - most of whom are probably still on free trial deals that WWE gives out every other month - are gonna carry them to the promised land, baby!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 8:00:30 GMT -5
I love the dude who brought up ratings hahahaha it's not 1998 anymore. The show is used to sell things like the network and merch. Please stop acting like the attitude era is gonna happen again Yeah, it's not like WWE makes a huge chunk of their income from their TV deal or anything. And plummeting ratings definitely wouldn't cost them money in their next negotiations. Nope. Those 1.5M Network subscribers - most of whom are probably still on free trial deals that WWE gives out every other month - are gonna carry them to the promised land, baby! 1.please don't quote rating when it's clear you don't understand what you are talking about. 2. Do all of y'all want WWE to fail? Because a lot of you just complain and complain. The same people who are quoting me on here are the same people who get mad at the talent that "move the needle" show back up like Cena. 3. A huge chunk of their money comes from merch, live events and over seas. 4. What is the "promised land"? They make millions they are the promised land. 5. Stop acting like because you read a dirt sheet you know all. Cuz ya don't. Do any of you remember the attitude era and when it happened? Late 90s....when South Park was big and WWE and WCW were in sync with the trend in media. Go back and watch a random Raw from 98 and please tell me it still stands up today and it wasn't your 12 year old self reacting to someone flipping the bird on live TV. Also before you quote me some more do a little research. Times have changed dramatically since then. I don't even have to watch Raw to know what's happening. Between twitter, Facebook and their own App I'm up to date. So maybe that could be part of your archaic measuring scale for why the numbers are going down however WWE is still profitable. Or maybe it's the fact they are publicly traded company and have share holders to answer to so they can't just do raunchy nonsensical story lines. Or maybe it's because they are with one of the biggest toy companies in the world so again no toilet humor. But nah you're right it's Nakamura's fault and anyone else you don't like on TV.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 12, 2017 10:23:12 GMT -5
Judging by where this thread is currently at, we appear to be lost. Very lost from the original topic. We probably should have taken "the left turn at Albuquerque".
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