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Post by alexxx on Jul 2, 2017 14:53:22 GMT -5
Does anyone think Tanaka should has stayed as face instead Turing on Lex Luger to join the Million Dollar Corporation? I think a mistake Turing heel he should stayed face and went for the WWF Intercontinental Championship or maybe tag team titles. did he ever turn back to face after the Million Dollar Corporation had broken up?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 16:43:04 GMT -5
I agree! (its Tatanka btw).
he was a perfect fit for IC Title. or tag titles with Bigelow!
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Tatanka
Jul 2, 2017 17:13:51 GMT -5
Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 2, 2017 17:13:51 GMT -5
Wow!
Pat Tanaka went from being in the Orient Express to turning on Lex Luger?!?! I am glad they went with Tatanka though when they re-did that angle.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 3, 2017 14:26:34 GMT -5
Tatanka definitely deserved a run with the IC belt. I'm surprised they didn't pull the trigger at WM 9.
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jason1980s
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Jul 3, 2017 17:50:19 GMT -5
Post by jason1980s on Jul 3, 2017 17:50:19 GMT -5
It seems like once the streak ended he lost a lot of steam but he still had some left until the heel turn. He generally seemed like a secondary guy behind Bigelow or Sid. If he had stayed face, I can see a few more good feuds out of him. Instead he never really played a relevant role during anymore PPVs (I don't really count Survivor Series since he got beat by Luger). I can see why they did the swerve. With the "evidence" and possibly Luger's past, everyone would see his turn coming. But it seems they didn't have anything for Tatanka mapped out.
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Tatanka
Jul 3, 2017 18:53:25 GMT -5
Post by natepadberg on Jul 3, 2017 18:53:25 GMT -5
even worse, his heel turn when he was on smackdown. awesome character, crappy execution of booking
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jason1980s
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Jul 3, 2017 20:19:58 GMT -5
Post by jason1980s on Jul 3, 2017 20:19:58 GMT -5
I don't think Tatanka is even capable of making a heel character work. He is one of those legitimately nice guys in wrestling (I've met him multiple times 1994-2017) and it would be tough for him to be a really bad guy. Tito Santana is similar but I would almost see him making a heel turn work, based on his struggling singles career in early 1990s WWF.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 3, 2017 20:47:12 GMT -5
His downfall was the heel turn in 94 IMO. After the brief tag run with Bigelow that was pretty much the end of him doing anything significant until his release in early 96. Shame really as I always thought he would've made a good babyface IC Champion.
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Tatanka
Jul 4, 2017 16:53:30 GMT -5
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jul 4, 2017 16:53:30 GMT -5
I don't think Tatanka is even capable of making a heel character work. He is one of those legitimately nice guys in wrestling (I've met him multiple times 1994-2017) and it would be tough for him to be a really bad guy. Tito Santana is similar but I would almost see him making a heel turn work, based on his struggling singles career in early 1990s WWF. I think the only way would be to have him not talk, and show no expression. He was one of my favorites growing up. |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 11, 2017 14:01:43 GMT -5
I don't think Tatanka is even capable of making a heel character work. He is one of those legitimately nice guys in wrestling (I've met him multiple times 1994-2017) and it would be tough for him to be a really bad guy. Tito Santana is similar but I would almost see him making a heel turn work, based on his struggling singles career in early 1990s WWF. I think the only way would be to have him not talk, and show no expression. He was one of my favorites growing up. Haha, I've seen several of his shoot interviews and this is so true. Not a mean or selfish bone in his body. "What did you think about _______?" "FANTASTIC performer! I loved our matches together." Could be talking about Bret Hart or Damien Demento. Didn't matter. Actually, it's pretty refreshing to hear a guy look back so happily on his wrestling career instead of just tearing into people and bitching about who screwed them over. He never has a tomahawk to grind. (rim shot) |
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Tatanka
Jul 17, 2017 22:32:51 GMT -5
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 17, 2017 22:32:51 GMT -5
I always hated tatanka. I wished he stayed face because I liked the million dollar man and I didn't want tatanka around him.
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Tatanka
Jul 18, 2017 18:39:34 GMT -5
Post by The Brain on Jul 18, 2017 18:39:34 GMT -5
Hey-how are ya hey- how are ya!!!
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Jul 18, 2017 19:44:53 GMT -5
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 18, 2017 19:44:53 GMT -5
Tatanka was over pretty big in 1992/1993. Again, he was my first favorite wrestler ever, but he really was one of the more popular babyfaces during that time right behind Undertaker and Bret.
The double-cross at Summerslam with Luger was something that crushed me and ultimately flatlined his career in the WWF. He was treated as a decent midcard talent throughout the last half of '94 and even got some main event spots in '95 teaming with Sid as part of The Corporation at King of the Ring. After that he literally fell off the face of the earth within the company and I'm pretty sure he didn't even see another PPV card.
I know they had bigger plans for Ludvig Borga, but having him end Tatanka's undefeated streak only to get injured shortly afterwards and leave the company altogether really hurt. Tatanka never got his revenge and his character wasn't able to regain that momentum he had before the loss.
I'll always love Tatanka though and think he was a consistent performer throughout most of his WWF tenure.
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Tatanka
Jul 18, 2017 22:44:13 GMT -5
Post by The Brain on Jul 18, 2017 22:44:13 GMT -5
Tatanka was over pretty big in 1992/1993. Again, he was my first favorite wrestler ever, but he really was one of the more popular babyfaces during that time right behind Undertaker and Bret. The double-cross at Summerslam with Luger was something that crushed me and ultimately flatlined his career in the WWF. He was treated as a decent midcard talent throughout the last half of '94 and even got some main event spots in '95 teaming with Sid as part of The Corporation at King of the Ring. After that he literally fell off the face of the earth within the company and I'm pretty sure he didn't even see another PPV card.
I know they had bigger plans for Ludvig Borga, but having him end Tatanka's undefeated streak only to get injured shortly afterwards and leave the company altogether really hurt. Tatanka never got his revenge and his character wasn't able to regain that momentum he had before the loss. I'll always love Tatanka though and think he was a consistent performer throughout most of his WWF tenure. His last WWF PPV appearance was Royal Rumble 96. He was in the free-for-all match a month later at IYH against Jake Roberts then after that he was released. |
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Jul 19, 2017 17:43:25 GMT -5
Post by jason1980s on Jul 19, 2017 17:43:25 GMT -5
Tatanka was over pretty big in 1992/1993. Again, he was my first favorite wrestler ever, but he really was one of the more popular babyfaces during that time right behind Undertaker and Bret. The double-cross at Summerslam with Luger was something that crushed me and ultimately flatlined his career in the WWF. He was treated as a decent midcard talent throughout the last half of '94 and even got some main event spots in '95 teaming with Sid as part of The Corporation at King of the Ring. After that he literally fell off the face of the earth within the company and I'm pretty sure he didn't even see another PPV card. I know they had bigger plans for Ludvig Borga, but having him end Tatanka's undefeated streak only to get injured shortly afterwards and leave the company altogether really hurt. Tatanka never got his revenge and his character wasn't able to regain that momentum he had before the loss. I'll always love Tatanka though and think he was a consistent performer throughout most of his WWF tenure. I'm not sure all the details and the source is Kevin Nash apparently Tatanka suspended for an incident involving a female fan that was caused by Jimmy Del Ray and Tatanka was blamed for it. I think the timeline may jell since Tatanka was off TV around the same time Jimmy Del Ray quit or was let go. It is sad he didn't get revenge on Ludvig. I'm sure that hurt him a little and by WrestleMania 10 he was in a throwaway match (even if it had been on the card). Oddly enough, the issue of WWF magazine with Jake on the cover (I think would be published in March with January results) had a several page write up with multiple photos of Tatanka's lavish lifestyle. I wonder if they had any plans for him to return? He also partnered with 123 Kid for the tag title tournament around Feb or March. |
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Post by marino13 on Jul 20, 2017 11:20:50 GMT -5
His heel turn derailed him something awful. While never WWE Championship material, he was more than over enough to warrant a IC title reign. I will say though, I liked how they executed the turn with Tatanka accusing Lex of selling out, when he's the one that had. But once the initial shock wore off, he was left with nothing of value to do.
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Tatanka
Jul 20, 2017 11:27:17 GMT -5
Post by T R W on Jul 20, 2017 11:27:17 GMT -5
Honestly I think he sucked and everything he did sucked. Even his theme.
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Jul 20, 2017 14:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 20, 2017 14:59:06 GMT -5
Honestly I think he sucked and everything he did sucked. Even his theme. HOW DARE YOU. The character fit the time when gimmicks were everything. He definitely had some good matches and the crowd dug him before the heel turn. His music was incredible. I want to run a 5k with that track on loop. |
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Jul 20, 2017 15:07:43 GMT -5
Post by mrassbillygunn on Jul 20, 2017 15:07:43 GMT -5
Has there been many native american gimmicks that are heel? Native Americans garner plenty of sympathy around the world so turning them heel would never be a good idea imo.
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Tatanka
Jul 20, 2017 18:12:43 GMT -5
Post by Artie Kendall on Jul 20, 2017 18:12:43 GMT -5
The reason he wasn't IC champ was because between 93-96 there were 12 title reigns and 7 of those were with Kliq members. One of those was a fluke Jeff Jarrett reign and another was Dean Douglas at less than a day. So with Shawn, Razor, and Diesel holding that spot, Tatanka couldn't really go up.
The heel turn made sense and my God how many turns has Lex Luger been apart of. Seems like he gets close to someone and either he or the other guy turns. But anyways, the company needed more heels and fresh heels. Yoko had been a heel forever. Bundy the same. Backlund was presented as a heel only because he was up against Bret. Owen was a great heel but not at the top of his game yet. Diesel they were soon to turn face. So someone in the office probably thought the heel side needed someone new.
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