TheEvilDoink1987
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 16, 2017 21:33:42 GMT -5
We all know the match never happened as Vince decided not to attend, but did you ever think he actually considered showing up? You don't want to help promote your competition, but in those crazy days I wouldn't put it past Vince's ego to show up and take some swings just to lay out the arch nemesis in his own ring.
Also, if this showdown really happened who do you think wins? Vince was stacked in the day and may have been the favorite, but Eric is a legit black belt in some form of martial arts.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 16, 2017 21:44:57 GMT -5
I'm willing to be he just laughed it off when he heard about it. WWF was on fire at that point while WCW was heading downward so no way Vince would've wasted his time by going on their show to face Bischoff. Basically it was WCW trying to keep ratings afloat.
Knowing both of their egos I'd say the match ends in a no contest.
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Post by blissfan4life on Jul 16, 2017 21:54:14 GMT -5
Not the fans, that's for sure.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 16, 2017 22:08:44 GMT -5
I'm willing to be he just laughed it off when he heard about it. WWF was on fire at that point while WCW was heading downward so no way Vince would've wasted his time by going on their show to face Bischoff. Basically it was WCW trying to keep ratings afloat. Knowing both of their egos I'd say the match ends in a no contest. Agreed, WWF definitely had a ton of momentum with Austin against Vince. WCW was still putting up some big numbers though and at the time in May of 1998 both were on pretty equal ground. Looking back now at how horribly mismanaged WCW was in its final years, it's easy to look at this challenge as a desperate attempt when really the Monday Night Wars were still going strong. It really is sad how much I enjoyed WCW in 1998 knowing now that it was nothing more than the beginning of the end. The roster was stacked, most of the TV shows and PPVs were still very entertaining, Goldberg was the man and definitely not least... WCW/nWo Revenge on N64. What a time! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 5:27:02 GMT -5
A lot of people believe Vince would have actually shown up, but Stephanie graduated college the same weekend so of course he had to attend that. I think he would have loved to beat up Eric Bischoff on his own ppv.
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 17, 2017 10:40:53 GMT -5
I never knew that he was asked to attend
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 17, 2017 11:12:56 GMT -5
Vince showing up would have been bad. Vince would have been walking right into enemy territory. Who knows what Bischoff had set up or planned in case Vince did come there that night.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 17, 2017 12:52:33 GMT -5
That woulda been sumthin
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Post by Nick the Quick on Jul 17, 2017 17:53:10 GMT -5
A lot of people believe Vince would have actually shown up, but Stephanie graduated college the same weekend so of course he had to attend that. I think he would have loved to beat up Eric Bischoff on his own ppv. I heard somewhere, I forget where, that Vince would have shown up if Stephanie didn't graduate that day and it was the only thing keeping him from showing up. |
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Post by mikey1974 on Jul 17, 2017 19:31:45 GMT -5
I remember Hogan saying he told Bischoff not to do it, cause there was a decent possibility Vince would show up.
Logistically, though, it could never happen.
1) WCW Security. Would they really let Vince in backstage, much less get to the ring?
2) like hbkbigdaddycool said, who knows what would have actually happened to him if he did show up. I can't imagine he would actually be assaulted, but some form of hazing was likely.
3) Match is agreed upon - what kind of actual booking happens here ,really? Who's willing to job? Or would they actually allow the owner of one company and president of another to shoot fight on each other?
4) Money. Vince would be giving guaranteed money to WCW, because once it leaked that he did show up, PPV replay buy rates would go through the roof.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 17, 2017 21:22:35 GMT -5
I remember Hogan saying he told Bischoff not to do it, cause there was a decent possibility Vince would show up. Logistically, though, it could never happen. 1) WCW Security. Would they really let Vince in backstage, much less get to the ring? 2) like hbkbigdaddycool said, who knows what would have actually happened to him if he did show up. I can't imagine he would actually be assaulted, but some form of hazing was likely. 3) Match is agreed upon - what kind of actual booking happens here ,really? Who's willing to job? Or would they actually allow the owner of one company and president of another to shoot fight on each other? 4) Money. Vince would be giving guaranteed money to WCW, because once it leaked that he did show up, PPV replay buy rates would go through the roof. WCW didn't have much of a security team so I doubt Vince would have any issues getting in if he was invited. Bret has told stories of Doug Dillinger sleeping during whole shows at a time. I think if it happened as a shoot fight Eric has a good shot to win. Bret knocked Vince out with one punch when they went at it, and with Eric being a legit black belt, I see him KOing Vince if he got a good shot in. Vince was jacked and a former ameteur wrestler, but Eric was a legit striker. |
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Post by PJ on Jul 19, 2017 13:30:50 GMT -5
If Vince actually were to have showed up they wouldn't have let him into the building, because there would have been no way for it ending well for either party.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Jul 20, 2017 20:55:04 GMT -5
Someone said in a shoot interview that Vince wanted to go. It may have been Bruce Prichard. I think he said Vince felt like his manhood was being challenged.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 9:57:15 GMT -5
If Vince actually were to have showed up they wouldn't have let him into the building, because there would have been no way for it ending well for either party. I'm sure the wcw higher ups told security that if he actually shows up to let him in. That would be stupid for Eric to challenge him to come there and for security to stop him from getting in the ring. |
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Post by PJ on Jul 24, 2017 10:16:30 GMT -5
If Vince actually were to have showed up they wouldn't have let him into the building, because there would have been no way for it ending well for either party. I'm sure the wcw higher ups told security that if he actually shows up to let him in. That would be stupid for Eric to challenge him to come there and for security to stop him from getting in the ring. I am sure they (WCW higher up) would have said under no circumstances let him in. To many things could go wrong as you don't know what he would be doing/thinking. Let's just say for the sake of argument they let him in and and then as he is climbing into the ring and falls then claims he got hurt there's a lawsuit. There's no way they would have let Vince into their building during a live PPV where there's no control to what he does once inside. And if they were that stupid to do it then they deserved to be bought out by the WWE, because clearly they would have had no common sense and shouldn't have been running a business to begin with. |
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Post by nibs92 on Aug 1, 2017 11:23:00 GMT -5
I remember reading that vince made a statement saying that it was an attempt by Bischoff to boost ratings and not to buy it on the basis of Vince turning up.
However he did say that he was happy to fight him in any parking lot across the country away from the cameras. I believe Vince would have happily did this.
Incidentally, does anyone know if the two ever met while both in charge of the respective companies? Would be interesting to hear if they did
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 1, 2017 12:29:42 GMT -5
TONS of lawsuits going on at the time. Higher ups at Turner freaked out all over Bischoff for this. On the Vince side? No effin way was he turning up.....no way no how was he going to help WCW.
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