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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 28, 2017 17:07:16 GMT -5
During the big 4 the WWE has always used it's part time draws like HHH, Taker, Shane etc but who from the main roster would you class as a draw?
There are guys who I tune in to see like Aj, Ambrose, Rollins KO etc but when it comes to ratings and ticket sales who can sell out arena's?
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Post by HTMN on Jul 28, 2017 17:16:34 GMT -5
In no particular order,
I'd say the biggest draws at the moment are:
AJ Styles
John Cena
Randy Orton
Hardy Boyz
Chris Jericho
Roman Reigns
Brock Lesnar
Followed by:
Seth Rollins
Dean Ambrose
Kevin Owens
New Day
Finn Balor
Charlotte Flair
Sasha Banks
Jinder Mahal (especially in India)
Samoa Joe
And I'd say the following are also 'draws' to an extent:
Braun Stroman
Bray Wyatt
Nakamura
Bayley
Ceasaro and Sheamus
Bliss
Big Show
The Miz
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 28, 2017 17:21:11 GMT -5
In no particular order, I'd say the biggest draws at the moment are: AJ Styles John Cena Randy Orton Hardy Boyz Chris Jericho Roman Reigns Brock Lesnar Followed by: Seth Rollins Dean Ambrose Kevin Owens New Day Finn Balor Charlotte Flair Sasha Banks Jinder Mahal (especially in India) Samoa Joe And I'd say the following are also 'draws' to an extent: Braun Stroman Bray Wyatt Nakamura Bayley Ceasaro and Sheamus Bliss Big Show The Miz This. I couldn't agree more. Except for Strowman of course  Strowman > Everybody. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 28, 2017 17:48:31 GMT -5
In no particular order, I'd say the biggest draws at the moment are: AJ Styles John Cena Randy Orton Hardy Boyz Chris Jericho Roman Reigns Brock Lesnar Followed by: Seth Rollins Dean Ambrose Kevin Owens New Day Finn Balor Charlotte Flair Sasha Banks Jinder Mahal (especially in India) Samoa Joe And I'd say the following are also 'draws' to an extent: Braun Stroman Bray Wyatt Nakamura Bayley Ceasaro and Sheamus Bliss Big Show The Miz This. I couldn't agree more. Except for Strowman of course Strowman > Everybody. Yeah Strowman's drawing power would be pretty high. Same goes for Samoa Joe. |
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Post by BulletV1 on Jul 28, 2017 17:53:32 GMT -5
I'd put Ambrose higher. Chubby girls are crazy for the dude and sole reason they show up. I sat behind one the night after 'Mania that bitched the entire time how she hates Renee and she doesn't deserved to be with Dean.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 28, 2017 17:59:41 GMT -5
I'd put Ambrose higher. Chubby girls are crazy for the dude and sole reason they show up. I sat behind one the night after 'Mania that bitched the entire time how she hates Renee and she doesn't deserved to be with Dean. Absolutely I've seen Ambrose live a few times and the girls go crazy when he's on. He's a merch machine aswell and I remember the Raw after he won the World title got high ratings so that alone proved that Ambrose as champion tuned in viewers. |
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Jul 28, 2017 19:49:54 GMT -5
On the full time roster, the only ones that really come across as stars are Reigns, Styles and now Strowman. Oh, and Orton. Then to a lesser extent Rollins, Owens, Balor, Joe. Maybe Wyatt, Ambrose, Corbin and Miz.
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Post by blissfan4life on Jul 28, 2017 20:34:24 GMT -5
AJ, Cena, Ambrose, Owens, Rollins... Bliss....... Banks.....
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Post by TheChamp420 on Jul 28, 2017 20:47:45 GMT -5
I truly thought when Ambrose won the wwe title he was gonna be like the face of SD Live
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 29, 2017 17:25:21 GMT -5
I truly thought when Ambrose won the wwe title he was gonna be like the face of SD Live He should've been but sadly he was put in that awful program with Ziggler. |
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Post by PJ on Jul 29, 2017 17:32:17 GMT -5
I have said it before and I will say it again...Ambrose is horrible. And now the guy just goes through the motions when he is in the ring. Watching his matches now I feel like I am watching a practice walkthrough and not a match. Since leaving the Shield I didn't see anything in him before he won the the world title and I have seen less since.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 29, 2017 17:56:09 GMT -5
I truly thought when Ambrose won the wwe title he was gonna be like the face of SD Live He could've been an absolutely huge babyface star, and they totally botched things with him. The way he was booked on RAW the night after he won the title was perfect. It really was a lot like Austin in 1997/1998; he was just a lunatic (no pun intended) who was willing to fight anyone and everyone who was gunning for him and he had no allies. And then after the brand split, they totally changed the direction of his character. They had him start acting way too goofy and funny, which was great in spurts, but should have only been an undertone of his main character and not the entire character itself. Ambrose is my favorite wrestler in the company, but he's sadly destined to go down as another guy who the company wasted due to Vince's obsession with having Roman and Cena in the spotlight. |
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Post by Yayo on Jul 29, 2017 18:04:26 GMT -5
Styles, Cena, Reigns, Braun and Lesnar feel like the top tier guys in WWE right now, and Joe feels like he's edging on that level. I think Balor and Owens, especially the former, should've been in that league, but both have had very questionable booking that's prevented it. Rollins and Wyatt are at a leve right below.. would also be better off with better booking and an actual direction for their characters. Rollins was in that upper echelon as a heel, but he lost his way since turning face (even though he's still very over). Wyatt could've been a top guy if his WWE title reign had gone differently at all.
Orton's also a draw to super casual fans. The Hardys are big, but we'll see just how big once they go their separate ways
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 29, 2017 18:18:45 GMT -5
I have said it before and I will say it again...Ambrose is horrible. And now the guy just goes through the motions when he is in the ring. Watching his matches now I feel like I am watching a practice walkthrough and not a match. Since leaving the Shield I didn't see anything in him before he won the the world title and I have seen less since. When Ambrose was in The Shield I hated him. I hated that he won a single title, I hated that he was chosen to fight Undertaker and I hated how the IWC drooled over him. I had never heard of him before and didn't understand why he was loved so much. However once The Shield split I became a fan overnight. I saw something in him that I hadn't seen in years and to be truthful I think he's something special. Is he the best technical wrestler in the world? hell no but he has worked his ass off constantly since his debut and IMO deserves more than he gets. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 29, 2017 18:21:10 GMT -5
Styles, Cena, Reigns, Braun and Lesnar feel like the top tier guys in WWE right now, and Joe feels like he's edging on that level. I think Balor and Owens, especially the former, should've been in that league, but both have had very questionable booking that's prevented it. Rollins and Wyatt are at a leve right below.. would also be better off with better booking and an actual direction for their characters. Rollins was in that upper echelon as a heel, but he lost his way since turning face (even though he's still very over). Wyatt could've been a top guy if his WWE title reign had gone differently at all. Orton's also a draw to super casual fans. The Hardys are big, but we'll see just how big once they go their separate ways I don't know about Owens he has basically been the main star of Smackdown since the shakeup. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 29, 2017 18:29:28 GMT -5
I truly thought when Ambrose won the wwe title he was gonna be like the face of SD Live He could've been an absolutely huge babyface star, and they totally botched things with him. The way he was booked on RAW the night after he won the title was perfect. It really was a lot like Austin in 1997/1998; he was just a lunatic (no pun intended) who was willing to fight anyone and everyone who was gunning for him and he had no allies. And then after the brand split, they totally changed the direction of his character. They had him start acting way too goofy and funny, which was great in spurts, but should have only been an undertone of his main character and not the entire character itself. Ambrose is my favorite wrestler in the company, but he's sadly destined to go down as another guy who the company wasted due to Vince's obsession with having Roman and Cena in the spotlight. Ambrose in 2014 was one of the best things in the company. He was out of control and wasn't a nice guy who pandered to fans. His character demise began with the Elsworth crap I mean why would a mad man hang out with a goofy jobber just to annoy AJ? The real Ambrose would used violence to deal with his enemies instead of using a jobber just to embarrass them. The final nail however was admitting in kayfabe that he and Renee were in a relationship. |
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Post by PJ on Jul 29, 2017 18:30:00 GMT -5
I have said it before and I will say it again...Ambrose is horrible. And now the guy just goes through the motions when he is in the ring. Watching his matches now I feel like I am watching a practice walkthrough and not a match. Since leaving the Shield I didn't see anything in him before he won the the world title and I have seen less since. When Ambrose was in The Shield I hated him. I hated that he won a single title, I hated that he was chosen to fight Undertaker and I hated how the IWC drooled over him. I had never heard of him before and didn't understand why he was loved so much. However once The Shield split I became a fan overnight. I saw something in him that I hadn't seen in years and to be truthful I think he's something special. Is he the best technical wrestler in the world? hell no but he has worked his ass off constantly since his debut and IMO deserves more than he gets. I wasn't a fan of his in the Shield either, but he at least acted like he cared to be on the show. For the last year he hasn't put the effort in. Basically since he was on Austin's podcast Dean has constantly digressed to the point that his matches look like he is just phoning it in going through the motions collecting a check. |
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Post by hbkowns on Jul 29, 2017 18:49:27 GMT -5
Of the 3 members of the Shield I'd say Ambrose is the draw. He would be much bigger if they didn't book him like sh*t after 2014. As for the rest of the roster
Cena
Styles
Owens
Jericho
Joe
Reigns
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Post by blissfan4life on Jul 29, 2017 18:55:57 GMT -5
When Ambrose was in The Shield I hated him. I hated that he won a single title, I hated that he was chosen to fight Undertaker and I hated how the IWC drooled over him. I had never heard of him before and didn't understand why he was loved so much. However once The Shield split I became a fan overnight. I saw something in him that I hadn't seen in years and to be truthful I think he's something special. Is he the best technical wrestler in the world? hell no but he has worked his ass off constantly since his debut and IMO deserves more than he gets. I wasn't a fan of his in the Shield either, but he at least acted like he cared to be on the show. For the last year he hasn't put the effort in. Basically since he was on Austin's podcast Dean has constantly digressed to the point that his matches look like he is just phoning it in going through the motions collecting a check. Wouldn't blame him for phoning it in, considering how he's booked... |
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Post by Quazimoto on Jul 29, 2017 20:38:32 GMT -5
Literally anyone in WWE COULD become a top draw and remain that way for years IF WWE were willing to listen to the fans, get behind the ones that are getting the best reactions, and book them in an intelligent manner. The problem is that WWE seemingly has zero interest in creating new stars for the long-term future. Instead, they've chosen to rely on older, already established stars and one or two hand picked chosen ones despite clear voiced displeasure from at least half the crowd.
You can see the pattern over and over again throughout the past ten or so years, but it really came to the forefront after SummerSlam in 2011. No-one and I do mean NO-ONE was a bigger star in the wrestling industry at that time than CM Punk. WWE literally had the dawning of a new boom period in the palm of their hands and instead of running with it, they chose to give the title to Cena and Del Rio for a month and have Punk lose to Triple H after being screwed out of the championship by Kevin Nash. Sure, Punk got the title at Survivor Series and went on a lengthy run with it, but who was main eventing PPVs while Punk was champion? Sure wasn't him most of the time.
There's been several other examples one could site since then. Yeah, it's easy to sit here in front of a computer and play 'Best Booker Ever' but it's become pretty clear that, for whatever reason, WWE doesn't want to push the envelope. Doesn't really care about establishing new stars for the long term future. And is overwhelmingly content to simply go along with the status quo most of the time. It's the same type of crap that helped kill WCW and WWE is darned luckily they don't have any real competition right now.
Don't get me wrong. I still find a lot to love about WWE. Just that with a little extra effort on their part, they could be a heck of a lot better.
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