CWE OWNER
Main Eventer
2015
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Post by CWE OWNER on Aug 9, 2017 16:22:36 GMT -5
As always READ WATCH REPLY AND ENJOY !!!!!!!! Show the love people. I do spend my hard time getting these shows out for you guys. And it is disheartning when you get one or two replies i'm sure i'm speaking for other feds too not just me. So keep the love flowing people. If you have ideas to make CWE better or ways to attract you guys to watching more. Write in the comments below thanks.
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Post by deskjet on Aug 11, 2017 4:22:12 GMT -5
I liked the sting vs cena build up. The main event was really well done and brought the match full circle. Especially liked the surprise ending. The matches and whole raw feel were done really well, however, I felt like I was still watching an episode of Raw. Since you ask for suggestions ...here we go:). The main issue I have is that it feels like I'm watching the same characters do the same thing as I see on tv. It's wyatts vs orton, Charlotte and Ric, it's the shield, the authority, Lana and rusev. Ya see what I'm getting at? I'm watching action figures do what I've see them already do on tv. Now granted, there's a degree of realism you have to preserve in a pic fed just so people have a reference point, but showing the same characters in the same roles gets repetitive. I've stated before that I barely watch much of wwe/TNA or whatever the hell they call themselves now, so if I go into a pic fed and I look and see it's gonna be about an hour of the same thing I barely watch on tv, do you think I'm gonna want to watch it? No. Now, to your credit, you've changed up Cenas character well but then you align him with the McMahon family. We've seen these authority/heel factions before. Moreover, the production is a bit disjointed...the music stops and goes, crowd noise stops and goes, commentary is a bit disjointed at times. I'd like to see a bit better flow to the show even get rid of the 6 separate videos. However, the arena and entrances are very well done. All that being said I commend you for the hard work that I know you put into it and have done for years. You're a veteran that's an asset to the board, so, please don't take what I just said as a personal attack on you because it absolutely is not and I hope we're still cool after this:). But, ya know I hate not replying to your shows because you're always supportive to me and to the board, but I'd be lying if I come on here and say hey, wow, this is great, blah blah blah, but am really not enjoying it. I'm only speaking for myself of course. But you ask for suggestion or more importantly..."ways to attract you guys to watching more". For me, I love creativity and originality. I'd like to see you take a few more guys and make them unique characters with compelling storylines. You don't need to revamp the whole roster and thrust them into a parallel universe, because truth be told, there is a certain appeal to seeing some similarities, as that, in itself, distinguishes your fed. There's indeed a level of comfort about watching new day come out and cut a goofy promo, lol, but maybe take some guys or factions and tweek them to make them different and stand out from what we see on tv. Or just make the storylines a bit more intriguing. I think that's the best thing about fedding, is that, you're really only limited to your imagination and maybe FCC laws for appropriate content lol. But, Again, to each his own, that's just my take. I'm hoping you can find a way to make CWE more than just the pic fed rendition of wwe raw or smackdown moving forward . And of course, if I can help in any way, I'd be more than happy to do so. Looking forward to where things go. So the positives: Entrances, big show feel, arena Improvements: 1. overall flow of the show with better transitions of videos/commentary/ graphics. 2. More original character development and storylines
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Post by Stuart? on Aug 11, 2017 14:51:01 GMT -5
I liked the sting vs cena build up. The main event was really well done and brought the match full circle. Especially liked the surprise ending. The matches and whole raw feel were done really well, however, I felt like I was still watching an episode of Raw. Since you ask for suggestions ...here we go:). The main issue I have is that it feels like I'm watching the same characters do the same thing as I see on tv. It's wyatts vs orton, Charlotte and Ric, it's the shield, the authority, Lana and rusev. Ya see what I'm getting at? I'm watching action figures do what I've see them already do on tv. Now granted, there's a degree of realism you have to preserve in a pic fed just so people have a reference point, but showing the same characters in the same roles gets repetitive. I've stated before that I barely watch much of wwe/TNA or whatever the hell they call themselves now, so if I go into a pic fed and I look and see it's gonna be about an hour of the same thing I barely watch on tv, do you think I'm gonna want to watch it? No. Now, to your credit, you've changed up Cenas character well but then you align him with the McMahon family. We've seen these authority/heel factions before. Moreover, the production is a bit disjointed...the music stops and goes, crowd noise stops and goes, commentary is a bit disjointed at times. I'd like to see a bit better flow to the show even get rid of the 6 separate videos. However, the arena and entrances are very well done. All that being said I commend you for the hard work that I know you put into it and have done for years. You're a veteran that's an asset to the board, so, please don't take what I just said as a personal attack on you because it absolutely is not and I hope we're still cool after this:). But, ya know I hate not replying to your shows because you're always supportive to me and to the board, but I'd be lying if I come on here and say hey, wow, this is great, blah blah blah, but am really not enjoying it. I'm only speaking for myself of course. But you ask for suggestion or more importantly..."ways to attract you guys to watching more". For me, I love creativity and originality. I'd like to see you take a few more guys and make them unique characters with compelling storylines. You don't need to revamp the whole roster and thrust them into a parallel universe, because truth be told, there is a certain appeal to seeing some similarities, as that, in itself, distinguishes your fed. There's indeed a level of comfort about watching new day come out and cut a goofy promo, lol, but maybe take some guys or factions and tweek them to make them different and stand out from what we see on tv. Or just make the storylines a bit more intriguing. I think that's the best thing about fedding, is that, you're really only limited to your imagination and maybe FCC laws for appropriate content lol. But, Again, to each his own, that's just my take. I'm hoping you can find a way to make CWE more than just the pic fed rendition of wwe raw or smackdown moving forward . And of course, if I can help in any way, I'd be more than happy to do so. Looking forward to where things go. So the positives: Entrances, big show feel, arena Improvements: 1. overall flow of the show with better transitions of videos/commentary/ graphics. 2. More original character development and storylines I have to agree with deskjet here. As Mod here, I really do appreciate the time and effort you put into your shows but I just personally can't get into them as they're too similar to Raw and SmackDown and angles/takes on characters I've seen before in the past. It's nothing personal so please don't take it the wrong way because I think you have a lot of talent when it comes to the actual workings of a pic fed, but I would be a more regular viewer of CWE if the storylines were completely original or just had different spin put on them (that said, I did enjoy seeing Cena as a heel in your fed from the last show I watched). I haven't been a weekly watcher of Raw and SmackDown since 2011 and the last full episode I watched was in 2013 after WrestleMania which was pretty much just to see the crowd. I occasionally watch the Top 10 highlights of Raw/SD on YouTube just to keep up to date with what's going on but that's about it. WWE just doesn't interest me and I'm really sorry to say this, but as DJ said, if your content is an hour long repeat of WWE programming in action figure form, that's just not going to grab my attention. We all fall victim to it as WWE is a familiar product so there's a strong chance that some of our content may resemble WWE's. Hell, my main event storyline since April has been Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho - a rivalry that WWE's done twice, once in 2003 and again in 2008, but you've gotta put your own spin on things. The heel Cena thing is a good example, but aligning him with the McMahons is something we've seen a million times, whether it be Rock in '98, Orton in '13 or whatever. It's been done to death and the McMahons just don't interest me as TV characters. Like DJ said, you really are an asset to the board but from my point of view, as long as CWE is WWE 2.0, it's not gonna reach that next level and again, that's not a personal attack on you or your fed, just my opinion and I really want CWE to be a more innovative fed and with your talent, it could be my favourite fed on the board but you need to take that step out of the WWE comfort zone. Maybe watch some other promotions if you don't already to get ideas for new ways to book your shows and write storylines. I hope we can see CWE grow from here and come into its own. You've got a lot of the stuff down - arenas, graphics, posing etc are all pretty good. Storylines, Character Development and lighting (not sure if its the flash or what, but there's a really distracting glare on a lot of the pictures) need improvement.
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CWE OWNER
Main Eventer
2015
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Post by CWE OWNER on Aug 12, 2017 11:32:01 GMT -5
No i totally agree with you guys. It would be nice to branch off for a new CWE fed new logo new show etc. However one thing i'm not particular good with is Logo's or doing graphics. Never have been its the main reason i tend to nick WWE's graphics. As its less work on my behalf. May sound lazy but i dont have time to do any myself with touring in my band too :/. I am trying to keep away from the WWE storylines as you see with Sting / Cena / Forcefield etc. Theres only so much i can do with the same roster though. :/ And i like to keep it as realistic as i can. Rather than far fetched that some of the feds i see on here do. again thats not a knock at anyones fed its mainly my opinion
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Post by deskjet on Aug 12, 2017 11:54:00 GMT -5
No i totally agree with you guys. It would be nice to branch off for a new CWE fed new logo new show etc. However one thing i'm not particular good with is Logo's or doing graphics. Never have been its the main reason i tend to nick WWE's graphics. As its less work on my behalf. May sound lazy but i dont have time to do any myself with touring in my band too :/. I am trying to keep away from the WWE storylines as you see with Sting / Cena / Forcefield etc. Theres only so much i can do with the same roster though. :/ And i like to keep it as realistic as i can. Rather than far fetched that some of the feds i see on here do. again thats not a knock at anyones fed its mainly my opinion Yea I don't think you have to get too far into the fantasy realm especially if you prefer being more realistic. At least you're trying to veer away from wwe a bit, which is good:). But at the end of the day do what makes you happy but if you want to keep ratings up sometimes ya gotta appeal to the fans:) Hit me up if you need logos or something, I'll be happy to help. Also, have you ever heard of filmora? It's a video program that's pretty cheap and one that I use. It may help with your transitions as they have tons of graphics and overlays. Let me know if I can help:)
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Post by NashaCorey (WWK PIC FED) on Aug 12, 2017 12:08:47 GMT -5
CWE is a great looking fed. It's very WWE like. But i think that will attract viewers. Some people love seeing that. If your having fun doing what your doing, then I wouldnt worry about it. WWK started going in WWE direction too, with Triple H as the boss and Undertaker vs Sting. But i personally find it more fun to make weirder stories and characters. I'm still new to this... But that's just me. I also don't get alot of views. I think YouTubers will look up RAW PIC FED or look up matches that you have done. And likely find your fed. There's no way someone is searching up 'NO PARKING' like my show lol. So I say stick to what your doing, but don't be afraid to get weird??? I'm rambling... I dunno.
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CWE OWNER
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2015
Joined on: Oct 1, 2005 20:47:13 GMT -5
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Post by CWE OWNER on Aug 13, 2017 10:18:38 GMT -5
No i totally agree with you guys. It would be nice to branch off for a new CWE fed new logo new show etc. However one thing i'm not particular good with is Logo's or doing graphics. Never have been its the main reason i tend to nick WWE's graphics. As its less work on my behalf. May sound lazy but i dont have time to do any myself with touring in my band too :/. I am trying to keep away from the WWE storylines as you see with Sting / Cena / Forcefield etc. Theres only so much i can do with the same roster though. :/ And i like to keep it as realistic as i can. Rather than far fetched that some of the feds i see on here do. again thats not a knock at anyones fed its mainly my opinion Yea I don't think you have to get too far into the fantasy realm especially if you prefer being more realistic. At least you're trying to veer away from wwe a bit, which is good:). But at the end of the day do what makes you happy but if you want to keep ratings up sometimes ya gotta appeal to the fans:) Hit me up if you need logos or something, I'll be happy to help. Also, have you ever heard of filmora? It's a video program that's pretty cheap and one that I use. It may help with your transitions as they have tons of graphics and overlays. Let me know if I can help:) Thanks man. I'll put up a poll now and see which gets most votes.
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Deco
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Post by Deco on Aug 16, 2017 10:07:06 GMT -5
As always, I enjoyed the show dude. I'm really, really enjoying the angle with Cena and the Mcmahon's vs Sting. I also really like this large Corporation like authority group that's building and it reminds me of the Attitude era. Also, I can understand what the others are saying- but honestly, it's your enjoyment that matters most. So if you're enjoying what you're doing- then why change it? Especially while storyline's and feuds are still in the balance. Plus, the whole it's like WWE thing- yeah it's true, but honestly, how many other feds are done as this small indy promotion? Pretty much the majority are and I enjoy them too, but there's actually less feds that are like a WWE production show and so by copying there logo's and format, strangely enough- your show become's different to the others. I also think the the fact that you do Raw, Smackdown and NXT is commendable and to be totally honest with you, I'd keep Raw and Smackdown as that WWE style and then with your NXT one, I'd go down a totally different route and have that as the small indy like promotion, almost it's own company and have that display totally different idea's and really let the creative juices flow with that show. That way, you have the best of both worlds and don't even need to split the voting or your fan base lol Just my opinion- could work
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Woods
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Post by Woods on Aug 20, 2017 12:24:16 GMT -5
Another enjoyable CWE show. I really like how well you're booking the Ascension. They have a great look and were badass in NXT, such a shame to see how far they have fallen:-( I can for sure see them as the next tag team champs in CWE! The Sting/Cena storyline has been great to watch over the last few eps, and I'm excited to see Undertaker.
I always enjoy watching your shows, but I do agree with what others have said in the comments. The best parts of this show, in my opinion, were the two that I picked out above, and that's because they're fresh. Cena and Sting has never been done before, so it's new and exciting to watch. The ascension build up is something that I would love to see in real life, so I'm enjoying how that's coming across. Rusev vs Swagger didn't interest me in WWE, so it's going to struggle to capture interest in a pic fed, unless it has a completely different spin put on it.
I appreciate how much work you put in to making your shows. You deserve every credit for producing RAW, SD & NXT, but for me personally I would love to see you focus on one show and one roster. To me, having 3 brands kind of makes the storylines on each show feel a little stop/start. For it to work properly, the shows would have to be put out more frequently for the storylines to flow better, but it's impossible to do that in pic fed form. Over the last few months we've seen RAW, SD & NXT from you, when we could've seen 6/7 episodes of one show, with one set of storylines to follow. That, I think would help you attract new fans and retain current viewers to your show as it's easier to follow that way.
I personally prefer the WWE style that your fed has to the indy style most other feds have, so I do find it easier to connect with your product as I'm more familiar with the characters.
I'm looking forward to seeing where you take things from here, as you seem to be at a crossroads with your fed. So I'm excited to see what you come up with to take it to the next level.
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