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Post by Hulkster2001 on Aug 16, 2017 15:45:15 GMT -5
So in alternate universe where the Warrior and Vince made up in 1996 instead of 2014, and where instead of going to WCW in 1998 he decided to return to the WWF. But this isn't the '80s this is the attitude era so Warrior would have to adapt to the times, so if he did come back would he? Or would it be like 1996 all over again? Imagine the dream matches we could've had, Warrior V. Austin, Warrior V. Rock, Warrior and Taker refuel their old rivalry, maybe Warrior would be the WWF's version of Sting? Well what do you guys think? Could he survive in the attitude era or would he once again leave the WWF? Well one thing we know for sure is that, there would be no Halloween Havoc '98 rematch!
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 16, 2017 16:47:26 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see how he would've looked because every New Generation star got overhauled during the Attitude Era.
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Post by The Brain on Aug 16, 2017 20:47:37 GMT -5
A new look and a heel turn for starters.
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Post by King Richius on Aug 16, 2017 20:55:41 GMT -5
I don't want to offend the legion of Warrior fanatics on the board but...
IMHO Warrior didn't fit in the wrestling world of the late 90s. He was a firmly 80s style cartoonish character that I doubt could be adapted to the more realistic gritty Attitude era style. He flopped in WCW when he returned and I imagine the same would have happened in the WWF. The wrestling world had moved on without him. He's a great example of a wrestler who was perfectly suited to the era he was a part of yet not suited to any other era.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 16, 2017 21:11:34 GMT -5
I don't want to offend the legion of Warrior fanatics on the board but... IMHO Warrior didn't fit in the wrestling world of the late 90s. He was a firmly 80s style cartoonish character that I doubt could be adapted to the more realistic gritty Attitude era style. He flopped in WCW when he returned and I imagine the same would have happened in the WWF. The wrestling world had moved on without him. He's a great example of a wrestler who was perfectly suited to the era he was a part of yet not suited to any other era. I am a big Ultimate Warrior fan and even I think he wouldve flopped hard in the Attitude Era. One of the reasons he failed in WCW is that nobody was going to buy into a superhero-like character destroying his opponents when you had a more real-life version in Goldberg doing the same thing at the time. Supposedly, after Vince McMahon screwed Bret Hart, he offered Warrior a 4 year contract to return in early 1998. If Warrior did return to the WWF in 1998, realistically, he wouldve quit the company again a few months later.
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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 16, 2017 21:19:01 GMT -5
I think he would have had to do something to make his character more realistic. I'm thinking along the lines of when Undertaker became the ABA.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 17, 2017 2:10:34 GMT -5
If the Warrior came out on Raw in 1998 and stood toe to toe in the ring with Steve Austin or The Rock, fans would side with Austin or Rock. If it came down to Warrior getting cheered or DX getting cheered?? The fans would choose DX. That era of wrestling - which started in early 1997 on through to late 2006 - had edgier fans, that wanted something completely alternative than what they had all through out the 80s and early 90s. And the Ultimate Warrior screamed 80s and early 90s.
However, if Warrior came back in the mid 2000s and did random special appearances like Hogan did, I think he would have been accepted as a nostalgia act, as long as he wasn't over used.
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Post by Taylor on Aug 17, 2017 2:26:58 GMT -5
I don't want to offend the legion of Warrior fanatics on the board but... IMHO Warrior didn't fit in the wrestling world of the late 90s. He was a firmly 80s style cartoonish character that I doubt could be adapted to the more realistic gritty Attitude era style. He flopped in WCW when he returned and I imagine the same would have happened in the WWF. The wrestling world had moved on without him. He's a great example of a wrestler who was perfectly suited to the era he was a part of yet not suited to any other era. I'm a huge Warrior fan and I couldn't agree more with all of this post. His colours and personality were what personified him as the fan favourite he was in his prime, so to change this to fit into that current era just wouldn't have worked. I don't think his character had the flexibility of other guys at the time. This being said, I always wish we had got a couple more years or so out of him when he left in '92/93.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Aug 17, 2017 9:24:27 GMT -5
I love to re-book stuff all the time. In my 91 year I had Warrior holding his title until just pass Mania and turning heel. Which would set up the rematch of Hogan Warrior.
But if I were to ignore the 91 stuff and it plays out as it actually did. I think Warrior could fit it. We have to turn him. Not right away. We want him to come in and do the usual gig. The idea is to get the fans to boo the Warrior because they've seen this all before. Have him win some matches over some guys build up the wins. Don't make them quick or squash matches. Make them a little longer than most Warrior matches. Put him in a feud with Taker. Taker at the end of the year was doing the Ministry of Darkness stuff and The Corporation was going on at the same time. So Warrior could be feuding with both. Put Taker and Warrior in a buried alive match and have Taker win it with the help of Vince McMahon. This writes Warrior off TV and from here you can do two things:
A) Bring him back as a monster heel with the Corporation. Warrior at this time in his career was very focused on Warrior as a brand and probably would have taken a lot of persuading to do this. But if he comes back as the monster heel he can go back to beating guys in a minute or two. Eventually you can have a baby face "Show warrior the way" and eventually he can turn on the heel group.
B) Have him return as a face to get even with McMahon. Remember we wanted to take him off TV because you'll almost always get a pop whenever someone returns. If it's done properly and the guy is coming back to get revenge then he'll get a huge pop. We would only ask Warrior to do one match in 1999 seeing as he retired in 98 from in ring work in real life. So just keep it to the one match at Wrestlemania XV against McMahon. He can retire this way.
This is just something I came up with off the top of my head. If I sat down and thought more about it I would have broke it down by feuds but this is the overall story you could tell.
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Post by PVA on Aug 18, 2017 11:10:50 GMT -5
I don't want to offend the legion of Warrior fanatics on the board but... IMHO Warrior didn't fit in the wrestling world of the late 90s. He was a firmly 80s style cartoonish character that I doubt could be adapted to the more realistic gritty Attitude era style. He flopped in WCW when he returned and I imagine the same would have happened in the WWF. The wrestling world had moved on without him. He's a great example of a wrestler who was perfectly suited to the era he was a part of yet not suited to any other era. I'm a huge Warrior fan and I couldn't agree more with all of this post. His colours and personality were what personified him as the fan favourite he was in his prime, so to change this to fit into that current era just wouldn't have worked. I don't think his character had the flexibility of other guys at the time. This being said, I always wish we had got a couple more years or so out of him when he left in '92/93. Gotta disagree. I thought his 'look' in WCW going with the trench coat & jeans was a good change to fit the times. To say warrior couldn't survive is like saying the cartoony debuting undertaker character didn't survive the change in times or hogan couldn't survive without the red & yellow. Or colorful sting in 80s/90s wouldn't work without the neon look. It's pro wrestling ya'll with good creative & ideas anyone could of worked from 80s to attitude era.
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Post by Taylor on Aug 18, 2017 15:21:09 GMT -5
I'm a huge Warrior fan and I couldn't agree more with all of this post. His colours and personality were what personified him as the fan favourite he was in his prime, so to change this to fit into that current era just wouldn't have worked. I don't think his character had the flexibility of other guys at the time. This being said, I always wish we had got a couple more years or so out of him when he left in '92/93. Gotta disagree. I thought his 'look' in WCW going with the trench coat & jeans was a good change to fit the times. To say warrior couldn't survive is like saying the cartoony debuting undertaker character didn't survive the change in times or hogan couldn't survive without the red & yellow. Or colorful sting in 80s/90s wouldn't work without the neon look. It's pro wrestling ya'll with good creative & ideas anyone could of worked from 80s to attitude era. Good points. I just feel his persona more than anything else is what really made the Warrior and what most fans remember him for. I just don't think lines like: "LODGED IN MY SKULL ... WAS A PIECE OF THE CRYSTAL OF YOUR KINGDOM! YOUR MADNESS! THEY SAID, "BUT WARRIOR, IT'S LODGED INSIDE YOUR SKULL," AND I SAID, "SEW IT IN! LEAVE IT WHERE IT LAYS!" ... would have really fit into the Attitude era, that's all. And if you take away outbursts like this, then you take away everything that represents the Ultimate Warrior. I understand guys like the Undertaker transcended seamlessly, however, his character is pretty timeless whenever it exists. Dont get me wrong, there's nobody who would want Warrior to have evolved as much as me! Maybe he could have but we'll never know now.
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Post by tg11 on Aug 20, 2017 23:06:11 GMT -5
Warrior's character wouldn't have fit at all in the Attitude Era especially with guys the likes of Rock, Austin, Taker, Kane, HHH, etc.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Aug 21, 2017 14:36:59 GMT -5
When people say Warrior wouldn't work in the 90's. Yes, he would have worked out just fine.
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