mynotmelohs
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Post by mynotmelohs on Sept 27, 2017 6:17:35 GMT -5
If you guys wouldn't mind, please give me your honest feelings towards the following. Please don't hold back to avoid hurting me/causing stress on me. I may deserve it or it may not be a big deal.
So say I buy an Elite Figure from Walmart and the package isn't in the best of shape, but you buy it anyway because it's rare, new, desired, etc.
And then say some time passes, anywhere from a few days to a couple months, and you see that exact same Elite figure at the same store OR EVEN A DIFFERENT STORE but with significantly better packaging. So you buy the recently discovered one with the nicer package, and USING THE MOST RECENT RECEIPT, you return the original Elite figure you purchased (the one with bad packaging) back to the store you had just bought the new one from. Sometimes it could be a completely different store, however the UPC's are all the same, so there isn't an issue with the return process.
I have done this a few times recently. And as silly or as trivial as it may be to some of you, it is causing me some anxiety and remorse. Ethics aside, is this tactic even legal? Does anyone else do this? It's not like I am gaining any sort of lucrative advantage with this. One could argue that the store may be suffering if they have a more difficult time selling a "beat up" package. The only thing I'm gaining is the possibility for the BEST PACKAGED figure I could find. After all, I have spent my money on a collectors item that is expected to be in good to great condition, so I feel like I can justify doing this.
But is there something I'm missing? Can anyone think of anyway a store or other collectors could be suffering from this? Does this seem like a "shady" thing to be doing? I have such mixed emotions over this.
Regardless if you respond or not, I appreciate you reading. Thank you for any potential responses. I don't consider myself to be evil over this, but I just don't know if it is right. If you do think it's bad, please don't pass judgement on me based on this. I try to be a nice, fun loving guy who treats everyone with respect. I don't want to see anyone hurt. Thank you!
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Post by mcfclee on Sept 27, 2017 6:20:15 GMT -5
I collect loose so don't notice but I'm sure there's gonna be some upset moc collectors to offer opions.
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Sept 27, 2017 6:26:49 GMT -5
Lol, have you seen the garbage people return in place of figures at Walmart?
They don't give a f---. They'll take anything back.
Don't sweat nothing. You're already returning the same figure; you're 100x times ahead of some punk ass repacker.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Sept 27, 2017 6:28:30 GMT -5
You're way overthinking it. I don't see even the slightest issue here.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Sept 27, 2017 6:47:59 GMT -5
MOC collectors have the most extreme case of OCD.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Sept 27, 2017 7:10:28 GMT -5
I don't collect moc or buy at retail anymore so packaging is useless to me. I just end up buying figures in damaged packaging as long as it's discounted and the figure is in good condition... Not to sound mean or anything, but I just wouldn't pick up a figure if it was in a condition I didn't like. In a way it is sort of messed up to just take in the new one and return the bad one you got from a different store because they're most likely going to sell it at full price to someone. If it was a one or two time thing, I feel like it would be alright. However, what if they start suspecting you of this or think that you're bringing in damaged goods? I say if it feels wrong then don't do it.
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Post by Halloween King on Sept 27, 2017 7:15:52 GMT -5
Deception is never good. If you've done it a few times now wouldnt common sense tell you when you see a damaged package, just wait I'll find a better one?
It seems like this is how thieves start, to me. Return a damaged package today, tomorrow open the package remove a piece and return.
Lastly put yourself in the shoes of a retailer. Let's say you own a store. You take pride in your product, you train your employees to properly stock shelves, and you offer competitive prices. And then along comes a customer who purchases a good product, only for him to return the next day to obtain a refund with an inferior product. I'd go as far as to say it's theft through deception. As a store owner would you be ok with a customer doing this to you a few times?
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Post by #HANDSOME1 on Sept 27, 2017 7:20:55 GMT -5
I've done this a few times. My boxes need to be in good shape. Not minty,graded condition but I am a MOC collector.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 7:36:16 GMT -5
I returned a figure because I didn't like the way the tape was bent on the box, I held onto it until I could exchange it. You're buying a figure and then exchanging it, the store still has the same amount of product and you're happy. There are more loose collectors than MOC collectors, so this isn't hurting anyone.
This is such a non-issue for you to be worrying about.
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Post by Mox on Sept 27, 2017 8:12:24 GMT -5
Deception is never good. If you've done it a few times now wouldnt common sense tell you when you see a damaged package, just wait I'll find a better one? It seems like this is how thieves start, to me. Return a damaged package today, tomorrow open the package remove a piece and return. Lastly put yourself in the shoes of a retailer. Let's say you own a store. You take pride in your product, you train your employees to properly stock shelves, and you offer competitive prices. And then along comes a customer who purchases a good product, only for him to return the next day to obtain a refund with an inferior product. I'd go as far as to say it's theft through deception. As a store owner would you be ok with a customer doing this to you a few times? You're not even close. Sorry, but that is literally one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read. Your logic is flawed. If the employer takes so much pride in their product, why are they selling damaged packaging in the first place at full price? He is returning exactly what he bought, in the condition he bought it in. I'm taking a couple deep breaths here because you got me all hot and bothered with that nonsense. |
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havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Sept 27, 2017 8:20:49 GMT -5
If you guys wouldn't mind, please give me your honest feelings towards the following. Please don't hold back to avoid hurting me/causing stress on me. I may deserve it or it may not be a big deal. So say I buy an Elite Figure from Walmart and the package isn't in the best of shape, but you buy it anyway because it's rare, new, desired, etc. And then say some time passes, anywhere from a few days to a couple months, and you see that exact same Elite figure at the same store OR EVEN A DIFFERENT STORE but with significantly better packaging. So you buy the recently discovered one with the nicer package, and USING THE MOST RECENT RECEIPT, you return the original Elite figure you purchased (the one with bad packaging) back to the store you had just bought the new one from. Sometimes it could be a completely different store, however the UPC's are all the same, so there isn't an issue with the return process. I have done this a few times recently. And as silly or as trivial as it may be to some of you, it is causing me some anxiety and remorse. Ethics aside, is this tactic even legal? Does anyone else do this? It's not like I am gaining any sort of lucrative advantage with this. One could argue that the store may be suffering if they have a more difficult time selling a "beat up" package. The only thing I'm gaining is the possibility for the BEST PACKAGED figure I could find. After all, I have spent my money on a collectors item that is expected to be in good to great condition, so I feel like I can justify doing this. But is there something I'm missing? Can anyone think of anyway a store or other collectors could be suffering from this? Does this seem like a "shady" thing to be doing? I have such mixed emotions over this. Regardless if you respond or not, I appreciate you reading. Thank you for any potential responses. I don't consider myself to be evil over this, but I just don't know if it is right. If you do think it's bad, please don't pass judgement on me based on this. I try to be a nice, fun loving guy who treats everyone with respect. I don't want to see anyone hurt. Thank you! I see nothing wrong with this. I "don't" do this because I buy from RS and get the packaging now. The only figures I do buy in stores are exclusives, and what I do is if I buy a figure at a TRU or a Walmart and find a better, I'll buy a second one and then try selling the original. While I never had to, my next option if it does not sell is to return it if the original is within the return period. Never happened though. Edit: I will add this. I've taken my figures on trips out of state to get signed. I have a Scott Hall exclusive and a BATB 3-Pack that were in pristine condition (in terms of the carding) but traveling around with them have caused some minor cosmetic issues. I'm at the point where as long as the plastic cover looks good for sigs and the figure itself is good, I could not care less about the packaging. |
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Post by The Madness on Sept 27, 2017 8:28:55 GMT -5
There is not a thing wrong with this. I would imagine that "damaged packaging" to most MOC is totally fine to 99.99% of people, speaking as a sometimes MOC collector.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Sept 27, 2017 8:41:13 GMT -5
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Post by Mox on Sept 27, 2017 8:46:18 GMT -5
Would apply if the toy was broken. |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Sept 27, 2017 8:55:09 GMT -5
Would apply if the toy was broken. If you're a MOC collector then the packaging is one and the same as the toy inside.
I'm not passing judgment. The OP appears to be morally conflicted so just wanted to provide a little bit of information.
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Post by King Richius on Sept 27, 2017 9:46:53 GMT -5
I don't see a problem returning an item you bought at a store to that same store.
I do have a bit of a problem with returning an item bought at store A to store B. Store B didn't screw you by putting out for sale a package that was not up to your standards. In fact, Store B served you well since you are keeping the product you bought from them. It was Store A that sold you a product you weren't satisfied with. Making Store B pay for Store A's mistake is wrong. Doesn't matter if it is the same product from the same factory with the same UPC. Once it hit the shelves at Store A, it became Store A's product and none of Store B's business or responsibility.
Now I'm assuming Store A and Store B are in fact different stores like Toys'R'Us and Walmart, not two different locations of the same chain. That wasn't clear to me in the OPs description. One Walmart is just as good as another for a return. It's not cool to buy something at Toys'R'Us and return it to Walmart or vice versa.
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Post by dollarbill04 on Sept 27, 2017 9:58:53 GMT -5
I collect MOC and loose. This seems a little shady, but not beyond the realm of something I would do if put in OPs position. For me, I guess it would depend on the figure. I wouldnt care if my E51 Zayns package was dinged up, but I damn sure would if it was List of Jericho or Walgreens Banks.
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eaterofworlds
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Post by eaterofworlds on Sept 27, 2017 10:00:21 GMT -5
I see what you are saying about the ethical dilemma, but if the store is getting their merchandise back (regardless if it is the EXACT same one or not) the store does not suffer in the slightest
However if you were repackaging with different figures and tried to pass it off as something it is not then that would be a different story
Side question, do UPCs for these figures change over the years? Like for instance could somebody return a figure from like elite series 7 as long as they had a recent receipt? lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 10:17:34 GMT -5
I collect MOC and loose. I don’t care what anyone does as long as it isn’t that whole swapping figures thing. That pisses me off. I have a few pieces in my collection that have shelf ware that I wish had better cards but that’s the name of the game. These figures are made for kids, to be opened by kids and played with by kids. There’s not one single guarantee that a figure would come 100% mint.
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Post by kennyw86 on Sept 27, 2017 10:39:18 GMT -5
Anyone that takes issue with this needs to find some real problems in their lives
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