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Post by Darkhawk on Oct 14, 2017 16:01:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if more WWE wrestlers want to leave.
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Post by IRS on Oct 14, 2017 16:17:01 GMT -5
It's easy to believe. These lower/mid-tier guys like Harper could easily go out on the indy circuit and likely make as much, if not way more, than what they're making with WWE right now. Unless you're a big name or selling decent amounts of merch, you aren't going to be making a ton of bank in WWE - especially when they don't use you.
I think we're sitting on the edge of a potential new boom in wrestling, tbh. The indies are getting hotter than ever, the content is more accessible than ever, and more people are being turned off by WWE's mediocrity every day. Maybe there won't ever be one true competitor to WWE, but there could be a half-dozen other companies that rise up to be successful viable alternatives.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Oct 14, 2017 16:22:46 GMT -5
There's always rumblings of someone wanting to leave here and there. A while atom Ryder was on his way out and all that. Prob just dirtsheets being dirtsheets. They were made they got a flat fee for being in a video game? NHL gives their players a flat fee as well. I wouldn't mind the extra check. No one is going to buy the game because TJ Perkins is in it. Being in WWE vs being on the i dies is like either being self employed or wanting to work for a company. You work indies you have to find all your own bookings and money. Wwe? We'll handle all that.
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Post by HHH316 on Oct 14, 2017 16:37:22 GMT -5
I'm not calling BS on this, but it's just extremely vague. And if it's true, asking for advice and doing something about it are two entirely different things.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 16:42:43 GMT -5
The 205 2k18 thing is true. Weird that they’d lump Neville into it though considering he’s been with the company for years. If true that would make his case more justified.
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Post by King Richius on Oct 14, 2017 16:49:46 GMT -5
This is silly. It's like a stranger walking up to you and saying "You are going to have birthday in the next twelve months." I"m sure there are a few WWE wrestlers unhappy with their current role who wouldn't mind leaving to try and match Cody's success in other feds and it makes sense they might contact him for advice. Get specific or GTFO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 16:51:31 GMT -5
I'm not calling BS on this, but it's just extremely vague. And if it's true, asking for advice and doing something about it are two entirely different things. It's not hard to believe when they see Cody and the money he is making now compared to the hell on Earth that is working for WWE. Guys like Harper, Neville, Cesaro, maybe even Zayn. Those guys could make a fortune on the indie scene right now. WWE isn't the promise land it once was. Even WWE knows it since they try to sign any and all hot talents to stop the indie scene from growing even more and getting even more powerful and more buzz surrounding it.
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 14, 2017 17:43:36 GMT -5
Ever notice that the ones that ask for their release are always lower card wrestlers?
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Oct 14, 2017 17:48:50 GMT -5
Meh. Depending on who they are but I'd guess most of them don't get much, if any, tv time so it probably won't be a factor to the majority of WWE fans.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Oct 14, 2017 17:58:07 GMT -5
I'm not calling BS on this, but it's just extremely vague. And if it's true, asking for advice and doing something about it are two entirely different things. It's not hard to believe when they see Cody and the money he is making now compared to the hell on Earth that is working for WWE. Guys like Harper, Neville, Cesaro, maybe even Zayn. Those guys could make a fortune on the indie scene right now. WWE isn't the promise land it once was. Even WWE knows it since they try to sign any and all hot talents to stop the indie scene from growing even more and getting even more powerful and more buzz surrounding it. Some guys work their whole life to get to WWE. They're not just gonna throw it away. It's not always about the money. It's about the passion and until that's gone, that's when people leave. Listen to interviews and that's why guys leave TNA.
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Post by Funk The Revival on Oct 14, 2017 18:05:28 GMT -5
I think the independent scene is as good as it's been for the wrestlers and though the statement of 'People in WWE are thinking about leaving' is very vague - I think there are several opportunities to go out and make a (bigger) name for yourself à la Drew Mcintyre. The WWE roster is overflowed with talent, seeing them shine elsewhere can be good imo.
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Post by Sizzle on Oct 14, 2017 18:21:33 GMT -5
There's tons of guys in wrestling who have dreams of being in WWE like Kevin Owens. People are always going to want to go to WWE if they grew up watching it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 18:35:08 GMT -5
It's not hard to believe when they see Cody and the money he is making now compared to the hell on Earth that is working for WWE. Guys like Harper, Neville, Cesaro, maybe even Zayn. Those guys could make a fortune on the indie scene right now. WWE isn't the promise land it once was. Even WWE knows it since they try to sign any and all hot talents to stop the indie scene from growing even more and getting even more powerful and more buzz surrounding it. Some guys work their whole life to get to WWE. They're not just gonna throw it away. It's not always about the money. It's about the passion and until that's gone, that's when people leave. Listen to interviews and that's why guys leave TNA. Sure, but once you get there some probably has the "Huh, the grass wasn't greener on this side." feeling and look for a way out. Not saying all do, but I'm sure some do.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Oct 14, 2017 18:37:49 GMT -5
Ive mixed feelings about this, If Vince sees more and more of his talent leaving for the indy scene, he'll find some way of crippling these other promotions...he's ruthless. On the other hand, I love that these guys are willing to leave and try their trade elsewhere.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 14, 2017 18:54:23 GMT -5
If you can be on WWE TV for 6 months and then leave, you could make a killing on the indy scene for well over a year just based on your WWE TV time alone. Let alone if you get yourself over on the Indy scene, you could make a career wrestling in bingo halls for 300 fans who show passion, compared to the 10,000 fans at arenas on Raw who are bored out of their mind.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Oct 14, 2017 19:38:03 GMT -5
If you can be on WWE TV for 6 months and then leave, you could make a killing on the indy scene for well over a year just based on your WWE TV time alone. Let alone if you get yourself over on the Indy scene, you could make a career wrestling in bingo halls for 300 fans who show passion, compared to the 10,000 fans at arenas on Raw who are bored out of their mind. How long can you really do indies for and keep making the big money though? Eventually your name loses value. Smartest thing to do is be like Punk. Work your ass off in WWE, save and invest your money and you don't have to worry about indies
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 14, 2017 19:53:57 GMT -5
If you can be on WWE TV for 6 months and then leave, you could make a killing on the indy scene for well over a year just based on your WWE TV time alone. Let alone if you get yourself over on the Indy scene, you could make a career wrestling in bingo halls for 300 fans who show passion, compared to the 10,000 fans at arenas on Raw who are bored out of their mind. How long can you really do indies for and keep making the big money though? Eventually your name loses value. Smartest thing to do is be like Punk. Work your ass off in WWE, save and invest your money and you don't have to worry about indies That's apple and oranges though. Punk ended up hating wrestling, so that's why he is done with it. The guys that wanna leave the WWE and go work the indys still have passion for wrestling and want to be wrestlers.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Oct 14, 2017 20:06:53 GMT -5
How long can you really do indies for and keep making the big money though? Eventually your name loses value. Smartest thing to do is be like Punk. Work your ass off in WWE, save and invest your money and you don't have to worry about indies That's apple and oranges though. Punk ended up hating wrestling, so that's why he is done with it. The guys that wanna leave the WWE and go work the indys still have passion for wrestling and want to be wrestlers. Does he hate wrestling or did he hate being in the WWE? I don't think he hates it as much as he got tired of wwe and what he was doing there
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 14, 2017 20:08:40 GMT -5
That's apple and oranges though. Punk ended up hating wrestling, so that's why he is done with it. The guys that wanna leave the WWE and go work the indys still have passion for wrestling and want to be wrestlers. Does he hate wrestling or did he hate being in the WWE? I don't think he hates it as much as he got tired of wwe and what he was doing there I would say he hates wrestling. He could have went to ROH, NJPW, or any indy fed to compete if he still had a passion for wrestling. I also believe Paul Heyman stated that Punk lost his love for wrestling in general. Which is why he tried out UFC and now did MTV reality shows.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Oct 14, 2017 20:32:41 GMT -5
Does he hate wrestling or did he hate being in the WWE? I don't think he hates it as much as he got tired of wwe and what he was doing there I would say he hates wrestling. He could have went to ROH, NJPW, or any indy fed to compete if he still had a passion for wrestling. I also believe Paul Heyman stated that Punk lost his love for wrestling in general. Which is why he tried out UFC and now did MTV reality shows. Never really heard much about him either way. I do think he did want to try other avenues and things and figured he did all he could do in wrestling so why not try something else? He isn't hurting for money and is more than set. I don't think Punk would do indy shows. Who knows though.
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