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Post by J12 on Oct 23, 2017 22:35:18 GMT -5
I can't even begin to describe how much I loathe the brand warfare stuff. It's so ridiculously forced and counterproductive to literally everything they do the 11 other months of the year.
I'm sure the 5 on 5 will be good to great, but it's not worth the damage they do.
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Post by dannybosa on Oct 23, 2017 22:39:43 GMT -5
Is this the big change rumor that was being spread around
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Post by Thought Collector on Oct 23, 2017 22:42:41 GMT -5
I can't even begin to describe how much I loathe the brand warfare stuff. It's so ridiculously forced and counterproductive to literally everything they do the 11 other months of the year. I'm sure the 5 on 5 will be good to great, but it's not worth the damage they do. I hear you. It's gonna be a long month.  |
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Post by ricochet05 on Oct 23, 2017 22:55:04 GMT -5
Kurt Angle looking like Goldie Hawn from overboard  |
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Post by rkmo: Everyone Else but Me on Oct 23, 2017 22:57:04 GMT -5
KO and Shane are going to illustrate Shane McMahon being corrupt with power tomorrow night. If only that inept crackerjack Shane wasn't permanently held in his position purely due to the fact he spawned from the loins of the Chairman of WWE. One of the worst cases of nepotism ever seen by civilized society. #SaveSmackdownLive #Shane-No-Mac |
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Post by rkmo: Everyone Else but Me on Oct 23, 2017 23:00:08 GMT -5
So,in effect, we just saw an entire roster turn heel.......thats......thats something....... It's cool, tomorrow night The New Day will be throwing Cereal and Ice cream bars out to the kids in the crowd, making white guys in suits magically dance and all will be forgiven and forgotten lol.... The citizens of Chicago were even shaking their heads when New Day jumped Titus Worldwide. |
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Post by J12 on Oct 23, 2017 23:07:33 GMT -5
On a positive note, Heyman’s promo on Jinder was entirely necessary and irrefutably true.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 2:15:58 GMT -5
Kurt looked like an old senile man at the end there. Looked scared out of his mind. Hopefully we get shane vs angle for a while at survivor series. Their match at king of the ring is still one of my favourite matches ever
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Oct 24, 2017 3:41:51 GMT -5
Loved how Creative in their infinite wisdom after a huge win for Balor last night let him go out and get eaten alive by Kane. It's like they're trying to  the most simple things up. What, Braun couldn't have made the run in? |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 24, 2017 5:00:26 GMT -5
I'm so glad I don't post in here during the show anymore. I really enjoy Raw and you lot crapall over it the entire time.
I loved the SmackDown! attack! I only wish the entire SmackDown! roster had been there and not just a few of them.
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Post by McBlake on Oct 24, 2017 8:42:17 GMT -5
I can't believe I never noticed Chad Gable going straight from Jordan. Now only they'd give him a decent push and maybe they could have squared off at SS. That's what the brand warfare lacks, personality. The whole "you're a champion, I'm a champion, let's fight" stuff is pretty stupid.
Hopefully see stuff like that in the 5 on 5. Similar to last year's which was one of the best worked matches in recent history imo.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 24, 2017 8:47:02 GMT -5
I'm so glad I don't post in here during the show anymore. I really enjoy Raw and you lot crap all over it the entire time. I loved the SmackDown! attack! I only wish the entire SmackDown! roster had been there and not just a few of them. I'm right there with you. I rather enjoyed the show, and I love this place. But too much complaining for me. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 24, 2017 8:50:33 GMT -5
Back and forth between Monday Night Football, but I can’t get over the fact that they put Kane over Balor clean. Completely undid any momentum Finn gained from the match last night. Kane shouldn’t be beating any one of value in 2017, period. Things like this are exactly why no one gets over and everything is a mess. Agree. I have no idea how he can go from beating AJ in a classic match to this the next night. Who the hell books this crap? I'd like to know the reasoning Probably because Finn Balor is like 5'5" and 150lbs compared to Kane, who is much bigger and taller than he is. It makes perfect sense to me. If Balor is going to beat Kane, he needs to be The Demon. Then you have The Demon King vs. The Demon Kane. |
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Post by marino13 on Oct 24, 2017 8:51:30 GMT -5
Notice they ran up on everyone but Brock & Braun Brock seemed in a rush to get the hell out of the arena as soon as Heyman finished his promo tbh That explains why he was jogging up the ramp!  |
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Post by J12 on Oct 24, 2017 9:33:41 GMT -5
I get why people enjoyed Raw, because it was eventful as opposed to paint-by-numbers WWE 101, but I can't get behind that kind of logical fallacy. Evidently, we have very different opinions on what wrestling is and should be, fundamentally at its core. Even though a bunch of stuff happened, it was one of the most nonsensical shows WWE has ever booked and it highlights exactly why the product is in the gutter.
I would take a paint-by-numbers Raw any day of the week over a show that undermines literally everything WWE does for eleven months out of the year. I'm baffled that Vince and anyone on the creative team looked at that closing segment last night and thought it was a good move. WWE has become way too comfortable with the notion of "it's fake so who cares."
I just imagine someone approached Vince with the clip of Bayley participating in a 5-on-1 gang beatdown last year and saying, "can we do any worse than this?" and Vince grinned and said, "we can do much, much worse." And, they did.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Oct 24, 2017 10:12:27 GMT -5
Seen some parents on FB complaining about the ending and are gonna cancel the network Ha!
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Post by robbutler01 on Oct 24, 2017 10:47:47 GMT -5
I've seen highlights of smackdowns invasion and actually laughed out loud.
So now out of no where we are supposed to beleive the whole roster are heels who hate the raw roster and are ok to jump people with no reason??
Absolutely stupid. No logic, not that that's anything new and once again the day after survivor series it will all be forgotten and like it never happened.
Oh and best of all I hear fins reward for his match with aj which I've heard was great is to be destroyed by Kane!!!
Genius booking AGAIN. This is why I am happy I'm not watching it
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Oct 24, 2017 10:53:22 GMT -5
People are reading way too far into the invasion. Survivor Series has always been about bragging rights for the brands to fight over ever since the brand wars started. Doesnt matter who you think is a face or a heel. Its team vs team. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. They might fight amongst themselves bc its their job but at the end of the day theyre still team blue.
Some of you are such marks.
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Post by King Richius on Oct 24, 2017 10:55:31 GMT -5
People are reading way too far into the invasion. Survivor Series has always been about bragging rights for the brands to fight over ever since the brand wars started. Doesnt matter who you think is a face or a heel. Its team vs team. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. They might fight amongst themselves bc its their job but at the end of the day theyre still team blue. Some of you are such marks. Well said. In the world of the WWE where it is assumed we the fans suffer from both long and short term memory loss that is as good a logic as any for the SmackDown invasion last night. |
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Post by tylerbreezee on Oct 24, 2017 12:00:53 GMT -5
I fell asleep but I watched the ending on YouTube and I honestly didn't think it was that bad. Crowd just barely reacted to it.
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