onlymoc21
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Post by onlymoc21 on Dec 31, 2021 8:01:14 GMT -5
Also for anyone interested, a positive about Major Pod is it can be used as a sales tool. I have walked away from several lines they have got involved in because of the negative impact they will have on a line long term. However they have a limited fanbase of diehards that hang on their every word and buy what they tell them to by and will cause a short term inflation in the market that I would say lasts about 3 months. This is when someone can cash out on a collection and make a profit. It’s happened with Hasbros, Micro Brawlers, and will likely happen with bendies and whatever the next thing they will move on to. Just some advice.
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Post by WOOOOOO on Dec 31, 2021 16:42:53 GMT -5
I had a near complete set of these but sold nearly all of it over the past year. Prices were crazy high knew it couldn't last so moved on from them. I still have a few but I'm thinking to move on from most of what I have left too.
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Post by mrh on Dec 31, 2021 23:07:30 GMT -5
I had a near complete set of these but sold nearly all of it over the past year. Prices were crazy high knew it couldn't last so moved on from them. I still have a few but I'm thinking to move on from most of what I have left too.
How much money did you make?
I just listened to an old Major podcast, where they said a Chase RVD actually sold for $420. Insane!
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Post by WOOOOOO on Jan 1, 2022 8:19:27 GMT -5
I had a near complete set of these but sold nearly all of it over the past year. Prices were crazy high knew it couldn't last so moved on from them. I still have a few but I'm thinking to move on from most of what I have left too.
How much money did you make?
I just listened to an old Major podcast, where they said a Chase RVD actually sold for $420. Insane!
The ones that got the most were what u would expect being Steamboat, Piper, Billy Gunn, and Bulldog. One guy bought all except Gunn spent close to $800 for the 3. Gunn was over $200. There are a few I sold that actually go for a bit more now though like Brooklyn Brawler, Blue Meanie. Not crazy more but still a bit more. The chase RVD seems to be the highest selling of them all actually. Well I did see an auction where someone paid $1,000 for the wedding day Cardona and Green set. Who knows if that got paid though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2022 11:57:23 GMT -5
How much money did you make?
I just listened to an old Major podcast, where they said a Chase RVD actually sold for $420. Insane!
The ones that got the most were what u would expect being Steamboat, Piper, Billy Gunn, and Bulldog. One guy bought all except Gunn spent close to $800 for the 3. Gunn was over $200. There are a few I sold that actually go for a bit more now though like Brooklyn Brawler, Blue Meanie. Not crazy more but still a bit more. The chase RVD seems to be the highest selling of them all actually. Well I did see an auction where someone paid $1,000 for the wedding day Cardona and Green set. Who knows if that got paid though. I’d investigate that $1000 auction. Can you dm me a link
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Post by WOOOOOO on Jan 1, 2022 12:05:55 GMT -5
The ones that got the most were what u would expect being Steamboat, Piper, Billy Gunn, and Bulldog. One guy bought all except Gunn spent close to $800 for the 3. Gunn was over $200. There are a few I sold that actually go for a bit more now though like Brooklyn Brawler, Blue Meanie. Not crazy more but still a bit more. The chase RVD seems to be the highest selling of them all actually. Well I did see an auction where someone paid $1,000 for the wedding day Cardona and Green set. Who knows if that got paid though. I’d investigate that $1000 auction. Can you dm me a link Just search micro Brawlers and go to the sold items. Search by highest selling. It will be at the top.
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Post by crush on Jan 1, 2022 13:46:52 GMT -5
Anybody still collecting this line? Grabbed Josh Matthews yesterday. Not a great looking figure, but he's always been a guy who I liked. Nope, I follow the market still, but once I seen Marjor Pod/Cardona get involved I sold up all I had while the price was high and cashed out. I knew the line would be ruined from that point and I believe I was right. Sad really it was a fun and affordable product at one time. The fact the exclusivity got all the way to a guys wedding was and is shameful. I’m really not understanding what the issue is with the wedding favors.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 1, 2022 22:29:55 GMT -5
Nope, I follow the market still, but once I seen Marjor Pod/Cardona get involved I sold up all I had while the price was high and cashed out. I knew the line would be ruined from that point and I believe I was right. Sad really it was a fun and affordable product at one time. The fact the exclusivity got all the way to a guys wedding was and is shameful. I’m really not understanding what the issue is with the wedding favors. Cardona knows what he is doing, and it is disgusting and disgraceful. He knows that there are completists and diehards of this line and he is creating a demand for his own wedding brawlers to gets a ridiculous amount of money from these collectors. It would be one thing if he truly made them for his wedding, but he has mentioned multiple times that he will accept offers if they meet his insane price. He tries to say that they aren't for sale and that he makes the price so high that it doesn't get met, but he shouldn't even have a price on them. He shouldn't sell them no matter how ridiculously high the offer might be. He knew this would happen and that was what he was hoping for all along. He's not stupid. He is just greedy and slimy.
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Post by mrh on Jan 1, 2022 23:00:18 GMT -5
I’m really not understanding what the issue is with the wedding favors. Cardona knows what he is doing, and it is disgusting and disgraceful. He knows that there are completists and diehards of this line and he is creating a demand for his own wedding brawlers to gets a ridiculous amount of money from these collectors. It would be one thing if he truly made them for his wedding, but he has mentioned multiple times that he will accept offers if they meet his insane price. He tries to say that they aren't for sale and that he makes the price so high that it doesn't get met, but he shouldn't even have a price on them. He shouldn't sell them no matter how ridiculously high the offer might be. He knew this would happen and that was what he was hoping for all along. He's not stupid. He is just greedy and slimy.
Why would you blame Cardona? If someone wants to pay, that is their choice.
It's a Matt Cardona wedding figure -- if you NEED that, to the degree you will pay hundreds of dollars, you need therapy for addiction (yes, you can be addicted to collecting)
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 1, 2022 23:37:02 GMT -5
Ive yet to see 1 Cardona/Ryder figure that Ive felt the need to own except for his last Elite and thats just cause I figured it would be his last one made (which it was)....
Myers on the other hand. Wish there were more figures of him out there
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 2, 2022 9:43:21 GMT -5
Cardona knows what he is doing, and it is disgusting and disgraceful. He knows that there are completists and diehards of this line and he is creating a demand for his own wedding brawlers to gets a ridiculous amount of money from these collectors. It would be one thing if he truly made them for his wedding, but he has mentioned multiple times that he will accept offers if they meet his insane price. He tries to say that they aren't for sale and that he makes the price so high that it doesn't get met, but he shouldn't even have a price on them. He shouldn't sell them no matter how ridiculously high the offer might be. He knew this would happen and that was what he was hoping for all along. He's not stupid. He is just greedy and slimy. Why would you blame Cardona? If someone wants to pay, that is their choice. It's a Matt Cardona wedding figure -- if you NEED that, to the degree you will pay hundreds of dollars, you need therapy for addiction (yes, you can be addicted to collecting)
That’s another issue. The issue here is not the fact that these people exist. The issue is that Cardona knows these people exist (some of them are his own fans that helped make his podcast successful) and created a scenario to take advantage of them. He created figures that are “not for sale” only to make it so that the supply is so limited that people will pay obscene amounts to have them. Some people work really hard to be a completionist of a line and you technically cannot be one without this figure. He did this on purpose. Also, who uses an existing toy line to make figures of themselves for a wedding. What a mark. Many of the people going to this wedding won’t know what these things are or will not want them. Stupid idea for a wedding favor.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 2, 2022 10:18:38 GMT -5
Oh radio, sell me everything you own.
The amount of hate Cardona gets on this board, while being on it, is wild. It’s not that serious.
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Post by crush on Jan 2, 2022 22:00:53 GMT -5
I’m really not understanding what the issue is with the wedding favors. Cardona knows what he is doing, and it is disgusting and disgraceful. He knows that there are completists and diehards of this line and he is creating a demand for his own wedding brawlers to gets a ridiculous amount of money from these collectors. It would be one thing if he truly made them for his wedding, but he has mentioned multiple times that he will accept offers if they meet his insane price. He tries to say that they aren't for sale and that he makes the price so high that it doesn't get met, but he shouldn't even have a price on them. He shouldn't sell them no matter how ridiculously high the offer might be. He knew this would happen and that was what he was hoping for all along. He's not stupid. He is just greedy and slimy. Why would you blame Cardona? If someone wants to pay, that is their choice. It's a Matt Cardona wedding figure -- if you NEED that, to the degree you will pay hundreds of dollars, you need therapy for addiction (yes, you can be addicted to collecting)
That’s another issue. The issue here is not the fact that these people exist. The issue is that Cardona knows these people exist (some of them are his own fans that helped make his podcast successful) and created a scenario to take advantage of them. He created figures that are “not for sale” only to make it so that the supply is so limited that people will pay obscene amounts to have them. Some people work really hard to be a completionist of a line and you technically cannot be one without this figure. He did this on purpose. Also, who uses an existing toy line to make figures of themselves for a wedding. What a mark. Many of the people going to this wedding won’t know what these things are or will not want them. Stupid idea for a wedding favor. 1. If someone is such a "completist" that they feel the need to add someone else's wedding favors to their collection because they count it as part of the line they absolutely are "the problem." 2. Despite saying that multiple times to get people to stop asking about them, there seem to have been few if any actual sales of the wedding brawlers despite apparent interest. The only confirmed "sale" I remember is the What-Not auction. If it was his plan to sell a bunch of them for an exorbitant amount money, he's failed miserably despite there being a seemingly large amount of people willing to pay for them. 3. The entire point of a wedding is to be a "mark for yourself." There were a ton of personal flourishes and references from both myself and my wife in our wedding that no one else would understand. And if my livelihood were built around wrestling figures and I had the financial ability to do so, I absolutely would have had wrestling figure favors of us. There are plenty of times I disagree with Matt Cardona's approach to things, but this really just seems like a case of people making something out of nothing because they dislike him.
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Post by mrh on Jan 3, 2022 0:07:10 GMT -5
Cardona knows what he is doing, and it is disgusting and disgraceful. He knows that there are completists and diehards of this line and he is creating a demand for his own wedding brawlers to gets a ridiculous amount of money from these collectors. It would be one thing if he truly made them for his wedding, but he has mentioned multiple times that he will accept offers if they meet his insane price. He tries to say that they aren't for sale and that he makes the price so high that it doesn't get met, but he shouldn't even have a price on them. He shouldn't sell them no matter how ridiculously high the offer might be. He knew this would happen and that was what he was hoping for all along. He's not stupid. He is just greedy and slimy. That’s another issue. The issue here is not the fact that these people exist. The issue is that Cardona knows these people exist (some of them are his own fans that helped make his podcast successful) and created a scenario to take advantage of them. He created figures that are “not for sale” only to make it so that the supply is so limited that people will pay obscene amounts to have them. Some people work really hard to be a completionist of a line and you technically cannot be one without this figure. He did this on purpose. Also, who uses an existing toy line to make figures of themselves for a wedding. What a mark. Many of the people going to this wedding won’t know what these things are or will not want them. Stupid idea for a wedding favor. 1. If someone is such a "completist" that they feel the need to add someone else's wedding favors to their collection because they count is as part of the line they absolutely are "the problem." 2. Despite saying that multiple times to get people to stop asking about them, there seem to have been few if any actual sales of the wedding brawlers despite apparent. The only confirmed "sale" I remember is the What-Not auction. If it was his plan to sell a bunch of them for an exorbitant amount money, he's failed miserably despite there being a seemingly large amount of people willing to pay for them. 3. The entire point of a wedding is to be a "mark for yourself." There were a ton of personal flourishes and references from both myself and my wife in our wedding that no one else would understand. And if my livelihood were built around wrestling figures and I had the financial ability to do so, I absolutely would have had wrestling figure favors of us. There are plenty of times I disagree with Matt Cardona's approach to things, but this really just seems like a case of people making something out of nothing because they dislike him.
100% agree -- I don't always think so, but Cardona has done ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong here
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Post by onlymoc21 on Jan 3, 2022 0:31:11 GMT -5
Cardona knows what he is doing, and it is disgusting and disgraceful. He knows that there are completists and diehards of this line and he is creating a demand for his own wedding brawlers to gets a ridiculous amount of money from these collectors. It would be one thing if he truly made them for his wedding, but he has mentioned multiple times that he will accept offers if they meet his insane price. He tries to say that they aren't for sale and that he makes the price so high that it doesn't get met, but he shouldn't even have a price on them. He shouldn't sell them no matter how ridiculously high the offer might be. He knew this would happen and that was what he was hoping for all along. He's not stupid. He is just greedy and slimy. That’s another issue. The issue here is not the fact that these people exist. The issue is that Cardona knows these people exist (some of them are his own fans that helped make his podcast successful) and created a scenario to take advantage of them. He created figures that are “not for sale” only to make it so that the supply is so limited that people will pay obscene amounts to have them. Some people work really hard to be a completionist of a line and you technically cannot be one without this figure. He did this on purpose. Also, who uses an existing toy line to make figures of themselves for a wedding. What a mark. Many of the people going to this wedding won’t know what these things are or will not want them. Stupid idea for a wedding favor. 1. If someone is such a "completist" that they feel the need to add someone else's wedding favors to their collection because they count it as part of the line they absolutely are "the problem." 2. Despite saying that multiple times to get people to stop asking about them, there seem to have been few if any actual sales of the wedding brawlers despite apparent interest. The only confirmed "sale" I remember is the What-Not auction. If it was his plan to sell a bunch of them for an exorbitant amount money, he's failed miserably despite there being a seemingly large amount of people willing to pay for them. 3. The entire point of a wedding is to be a "mark for yourself." There were a ton of personal flourishes and references from both myself and my wife in our wedding that no one else would understand. And if my livelihood were built around wrestling figures and I had the financial ability to do so, I absolutely would have had wrestling figure favors of us. There are plenty of times I disagree with Matt Cardona's approach to things, but this really just seems like a case of people making something out of nothing because they dislike him. Would disagree. The personally of one Matt Cardona is that there is always an angle. You would not see any one of those Brawlers in the market as his wedding would have just taken place but they WILL land on the secondary market. As already pointed out this guy is all about supply and demand and he is totally seeking to take advantage of someone wishing to complete the MB line. People have been invested in this line for many many years. The fact that he has had it placed in special packaging is a dead giveaway that it’s something he will use to profit from. It’s ok for people to feel that is disgusting behaviour because it is. He will openly and knowingly take advance of the fanbase he will tout “share his passion for collecting” the dude is a carny through and through, and always taking advantage of Major Marks.
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Post by crush on Jan 3, 2022 1:04:37 GMT -5
1. If someone is such a "completist" that they feel the need to add someone else's wedding favors to their collection because they count it as part of the line they absolutely are "the problem." 2. Despite saying that multiple times to get people to stop asking about them, there seem to have been few if any actual sales of the wedding brawlers despite apparent interest. The only confirmed "sale" I remember is the What-Not auction. If it was his plan to sell a bunch of them for an exorbitant amount money, he's failed miserably despite there being a seemingly large amount of people willing to pay for them. 3. The entire point of a wedding is to be a "mark for yourself." There were a ton of personal flourishes and references from both myself and my wife in our wedding that no one else would understand. And if my livelihood were built around wrestling figures and I had the financial ability to do so, I absolutely would have had wrestling figure favors of us. There are plenty of times I disagree with Matt Cardona's approach to things, but this really just seems like a case of people making something out of nothing because they dislike him. Would disagree. The personally of one Matt Cardona is that there is always an angle. You would not see any one of those Brawlers in the market as his wedding would have just taken place but they WILL land on the secondary market. As already pointed out this guy is all about supply and demand and he is totally seeking to take advantage of someone wishing to complete the MB line. People have been invested in this line for many many years. The fact that he has had it placed in special packaging is a dead giveaway that it’s something he will use to profit from. It’s ok for people to feel that is disgusting behaviour because it is. He will openly and knowingly take advance of the fanbase he will tout “share his passion for collecting” the dude is a carny through and through, and always taking advantage of Major Marks. I don’t doubt some will hit the secondary market, either from Cardona or from some of the others at the wedding (wrestlers are gonna carnie) but I just don’t buy this idea that it was some thought out scheme. Also, even if he did plan to sell them, I don’t get how it’s “disgusting.” Is it “disgusting” that Mattel completists can’t get their hands on the NFL on Fox figures or the Make-A-Wish kid or the 1-of-15 (I believe that’s the number) Warriors? There’s plenty of examples of one off or limited specialty figures that are clearly not officially part of a given line being made, and that’s clearly a category that wedding favors falls into. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to feel bad for someone who won't differentiate that wedding favors aren't a common part of the line that they collect and don't need to acquired to complete said line. Also, I must admit, I also think this is funny given that had there been a run of wedding brawlers sold to the public, people would be on here calling it "disgusting" and saying that they should have just been made as favors and not sold. But personal vendettas are going to personal vendetta I guess.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jan 3, 2022 13:12:57 GMT -5
LOL who would want a Matt Ryder wedding Brawler? That's some gross level of devotion.
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Post by stc13 on Jan 3, 2022 17:57:58 GMT -5
Of all things to get bent out of shape on, Matt Cardona's wedding is pretty close to the bottom of my list. I don't see these as any different than the PWT Brawlers that Ryan made of a couple of his employees. Do I have any interest in owning them? No. Do I think they're kind of dumb? Yes. Would I do the exact same thing for my wedding or friends if I had the connections? In a heart beat.
The obsessive completionists artificially inflating the market has been an issue with this line from the point where they went from about to be discontinued to a hot item. I've seen a few of them selling off their collections recently, and no tears were shed on my part.
I'm not a fan of Cardona or the podcast. But I have a ton of respect in his ability to turn his passions into a successful career. That's not being a carny. It's being in tune with his audience and being able to leverage that to do well for himself and maximize the opportunities available to him. The wedding Brawlers have to be one of the coolest wedding favors I've ever seen. Really wish I knew people that would go to that level of self-indulgence instead of giving me a candle...
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Post by juicexct on Jan 3, 2022 18:27:11 GMT -5
There’s no way he is making a profit off of these. Even if he sold a few sets for $1000, he literally purchased a ton of them and gave them away for free.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2022 5:59:46 GMT -5
Never forget Ryder stated no extra MajorPod Crate brawlers were being made. Never forget Ryder stated he and the other pod hosts only got 5 of each MajorPod crate brawlers. Never forget that a bunch of MajorPod crate brawlers to include chases suddenly appeared on their site for secondary market prices. That $1000 sale could be an inside job, where a few more (our wedding guests didn’t show due to omicron) sets suddenly land on the secondary market at similar price.
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