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Post by ricflair4ever on Sept 1, 2018 0:43:11 GMT -5
The 2 that stick out the most are Mr Perfect and Vader. Piper,DiBiase, Rude ,and Orndorff were truly over enough that they didn't "need" the WWF Championship. And honestly Perfect IS in that category. But once the WWF switched gears and went with the technical guys on top (ie Bret) I think Perfect could have gone heel and got a run with the gold. Of course, he would be back out of the ring before he could have really got that push going ,ideally, in 94. In Vader's case, having a run with the WWF Championship would have lend all kinds of credibility that he needed with the WWF audience. Yeah we knew who he was and what he was about, but the WWF only crowd didn't get very much of the WCW Vader right off the bat. Yes I know his shoulder played a role in that to an extent, but he's VADER....he could have been presented as an unstoppable monster and had his injuries hid better. Play to his strengths and give him a title run from Summer Slam 96 to Royal Rumble 97. He could drop it back to HBK there, and be over in a much more major way that could have made him seem like a big time threat to The Undertaker going forward and even Austin after that. He certainly would not have gone out the way he did in 98 at the end of his run.
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Post by tg11 on Sept 1, 2018 8:23:10 GMT -5
Luger should have won the title beating Yokozuna at SummerSlam 93
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Post by Gorilla on Sept 1, 2018 23:08:32 GMT -5
Rude at SummerSlam vs Warrior always frustrated me. He could have climbed out of the cage bit he turns around to jump off and try do more damage to the Warrior. He deserved to win that match, carrying that bum to a great match.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 0:15:04 GMT -5
orndorff in 86 (shoulda won the belt at either big event or 1st snme match, then hulk win it back at the snme cage match)
dibiase in 88 (the perfect heel! they should have let him keep it for a bit when andre gave it to him)
rude at summerslam 90 (they built him up so good)
piper in 92 (never won a blet, wins both belts at rr92, then flair beats him for it on a snme)
perfect in 93 (flair never loses belt to bret, but loses to perfect at rr93 main event, perfect loses belt to yoko at wm9)
luger at summerslam 93
vader at summerslam 96
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 10:11:33 GMT -5
Why did Hogans first reign as champion have to be for over 4 years straight?
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Post by The Brain on Sept 2, 2018 18:18:37 GMT -5
Why did Hogans first reign as champion have to be for over 4 years straight? Because he was Vince's meal ticket. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 20:16:24 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is today's "meal ticket" and I don't see him having a 4 year reign(no pun intended). I guess it was a different time then. No Raw and Smackdown every week and no ppvs 13 times a year.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Sept 2, 2018 22:15:41 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is today's "meal ticket" and I don't see him having a 4 year reign(no pun intended). I guess it was a different time then. No Raw and Smackdown every week and no ppvs 13 times a year. That's exactly it. Hogan would defend the title like once a month at a big show and a few other times at house shows. The WWE puts out more content in a week now than they put out in a month back then. |
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Post by dixol on Sept 2, 2018 23:42:47 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is today's "meal ticket" and I don't see him having a 4 year reign(no pun intended). I guess it was a different time then. No Raw and Smackdown every week and no ppvs 13 times a year. That's exactly it. Hogan would defend the title like once a month at a big show and a few other times at house shows. The WWE puts out more content in a week now than they put out in a month back then. Actually, Hogan was defending the title at house shows every night. And the company was putting out the same amount of content, if not more. But Hogan only defended on tv on SNMEs and PPVs. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 2, 2018 23:46:21 GMT -5
Honestly from 84-94 there isnt a name mentioned that I see that *should* have been Champion. There's names out there where you could have slide them in as a transitional champion like DiBiase (between Hogan & Savage) or Owen (between Bret & Diesel) but most of the time in that era your champion was your $MONEY$ guy and guys like Orndorff, Piper, Perfect, Rude etc just simply werent big money guys.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 8:09:30 GMT -5
I think Piper was a big money guy, but by his own admission he didn't need the title and never bitched in shoot interviews for never being WWF champion.
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Post by warriorlynx on Sept 3, 2018 8:23:53 GMT -5
Why did Hogans first reign as champion have to be for over 4 years straight? Cause Hogan was a massive draw and was a celebrity (Sports Illustrated etc) so he became the face of wrestling itself and a household name. For opponents, Hogan was a huge payoff so why in the world would heels even want the title when they know they can work several nights with Hogan and make $$$. Plus things were different back then, many thought it was real, titles had longer reigns, merch was sold directly at shows or through a mail-in-order so tons of more cash is made etc. Hogan could've held it for 6 years straight with no sweat if it wasn't for that No Holds Barred movie. He was the top draw till Wrestlemania 8 even with declining popularity. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 9:31:27 GMT -5
Why did Hogans first reign as champion have to be for over 4 years straight? Cause Hogan was a massive draw and was a celebrity (Sports Illustrated etc) so he became the face of wrestling itself and a household name. For opponents, Hogan was a huge payoff so why in the world would heels even want the title when they know they can work several nights with Hogan and make $$$. Plus things were different back then, many thought it was real, titles had longer reigns, merch was sold directly at shows or through a mail-in-order so tons of more cash is made etc. Hogan could've held it for 6 years straight with no sweat if it wasn't for that No Holds Barred movie. He was the top draw till Wrestlemania 8 even with declining popularity. I hope you aren't saying Savage shouldn't have been champ in 88! I take it you're a big Hogan fan? I was too, but 6 years straight??? |
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Post by warriorlynx on Sept 3, 2018 19:44:04 GMT -5
Cause Hogan was a massive draw and was a celebrity (Sports Illustrated etc) so he became the face of wrestling itself and a household name. For opponents, Hogan was a huge payoff so why in the world would heels even want the title when they know they can work several nights with Hogan and make $$$. Plus things were different back then, many thought it was real, titles had longer reigns, merch was sold directly at shows or through a mail-in-order so tons of more cash is made etc. Hogan could've held it for 6 years straight with no sweat if it wasn't for that No Holds Barred movie. He was the top draw till Wrestlemania 8 even with declining popularity. I hope you aren't saying Savage shouldn't have been champ in 88! I take it you're a big Hogan fan? I was too, but 6 years straight??? Savage wasn't considered for the world title till HTM wouldn't give him the IC strap, it was actually supposed to go to Dibiase while Hogan was shooting the film. Don't get me wrong, I loved Macho and Liz as a package with the world title, but Dibiase would've been something too. So I wouldn't want to take that way and the whole Mega Powers story... Point is from a business perspective, Hogan still drew more than Savage (ie. singles against Boss Man or Akeem etc) when Savage was champ, hence logically Hogan would've likely still been champion if the movie was never made. |
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