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Post by LA Times on Sept 25, 2018 18:44:07 GMT -5
From what I've seen from watching the big 4 events, IMO this is what is wrong with today's product...
Horrible announcers
All the guys today have real names( What happened to originality? Wrestling NEEDS characters/personalities. Without em we get bland guys like we see today.)
All this LED BS( Remember the good ol' days when ppv sets looked awesome and the ring had traditional aprons and posts? Not anymore...)
Crap storylines
Raw being 3 hours
Terrible tag teams
Nothing feels compelling anymore
I can go on and on but I'll leave it at this.
In closing I'm not surprised Raw got the lowest rating in the shows history. The rating represents the product as a whole...Atrocious.
Theyre not actual real names, but this seems to be what they are using to come up with ring names in FCW/NXT random-name-generator.info/random/?n=10&g=2&st=2Random names Roman Pearson Forrest Hudson Jake Park Caleb Sandoval Micheal White Donald Scott Earl Castro Dana Lawson Daryl Johnson Seth Alvarez
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Post by The Brain on Sept 25, 2018 18:46:19 GMT -5
From what I've seen from watching the big 4 events, IMO this is what is wrong with today's product...
Horrible announcers
All the guys today have real names( What happened to originality? Wrestling NEEDS characters/personalities. Without em we get bland guys like we see today.)
All this LED BS( Remember the good ol' days when ppv sets looked awesome and the ring had traditional aprons and posts? Not anymore...)
Crap storylines
Raw being 3 hours
Terrible tag teams
Nothing feels compelling anymore
I can go on and on but I'll leave it at this.
In closing I'm not surprised Raw got the lowest rating in the shows history. The rating represents the product as a whole...Atrocious.
Agree on all of it and it's sadly the way Jim Cornette perfectly put it with the pro-wrestling business. 'We can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.' He's right.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 25, 2018 18:46:21 GMT -5
People still care about ratings? Y’all sound like WCW in the 90’s lol ratings are eyeballs, eyeballs are money and money makes the world go around. While WWE is certainly not hurting for money its still a business and its legit something that *could* go away one day if times were to get rough.
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Post by The Brain on Sept 25, 2018 18:47:38 GMT -5
From what I've seen from watching the big 4 events, IMO this is what is wrong with today's product...
Horrible announcers
All the guys today have real names( What happened to originality? Wrestling NEEDS characters/personalities. Without em we get bland guys like we see today.)
All this LED BS( Remember the good ol' days when ppv sets looked awesome and the ring had traditional aprons and posts? Not anymore...)
Crap storylines
Raw being 3 hours
Terrible tag teams
Nothing feels compelling anymore
I can go on and on but I'll leave it at this.
In closing I'm not surprised Raw got the lowest rating in the shows history. The rating represents the product as a whole...Atrocious.
Theyre not actual real names, but this seems to be what they are using to come up with ring names in FCW/NXT random-name-generator.info/random/?n=10&g=2&st=2Random names Roman Pearson Forrest Hudson Jake Park Caleb Sandoval Micheal White Donald Scott Earl Castro Dana Lawson Daryl Johnson Seth Alvarez Yep all bland as hell.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 25, 2018 18:53:56 GMT -5
People still care about ratings? Y’all sound like WCW in the 90’s lol That's what I was saying the other day. TV ratings aren't nearly as important as they used to be during the MNW. Between DVR's, YouTube, Hulu, and WWE.com, there are plenty of other ways for people to get their WWE fix. Last week's main event of Roman vs Corbin (as of today) has 4.1 million views. Ronda's open challenge has 4 million. So there's still interest in WWE whether people want to admit it or not.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 25, 2018 22:05:18 GMT -5
Too bad ratings are no longer used to indicate how good the WWE's product is. That has been pushed aside in favor of general revenue gained from TV deals or merch sales or social media attention or whatever other means Vince uses to justify his own decisions and ignore anybody's concerns or criticisms.
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Post by China Claus on Sept 25, 2018 22:07:09 GMT -5
I'll watch on Hulu if something seems intriguing enough. But that seems rare these days. Mostly, I'll just catch up on site's like this or other's, as today's WWE landscape seems like more of a chore to watch(not counting NXT, mind you.)
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Post by Iron Bison on Sept 25, 2018 22:41:04 GMT -5
I watched long enough for the opening segment this week. Once I saw it was a crapshow of Dolph/Drew trying to get Dean to turn on the Shield, Boredom Corbin was in the main event and WWE was promoting Triple H's response to the Undertaker that would inevitably lead to HBK giving his rebuttal the week after, and then Taker giving his rebuttal to Shawn and Hunter's rebuttal the following week, it was easy to flip the channel to MNF. Couldn't agree more with someone who posted above, I feel like if I hadn't watched Raw for the past 5 weeks I really wouldn't have missed anything exciting. I legit laughed at "Boredom Corbin"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 22:45:10 GMT -5
I mean the TV show may suck a dick but that shouldn't dictate the roster. WWE potentially has the greatest roster ever with the worst ever ratings. What the is going on? Or... MAYBE the roster is by far the worst it's ever been. Everyone is the same. The same moves, walks, talks and looks. Nobody has any legitimate marketability to a mainstream audience aside from the few guys who have been there well over a decade. You can count the number of people anybody will remember in 10 years time on one hand.
Every facet of the product could not be any worse. But most of all the roster.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 22:52:37 GMT -5
Absolutely terrible announcers who ruin every single moment and make it hard to even enjoy watching by being overly scripted and having to tell us every few moments "this is awesome" even tho it's utter crap. Camera angles zooming in and out and making us feel like we are watching an earthquake. Whoever is in charge of that needs fired. Literally having the same guys fighting week in, week out and at PPVs with pretty much no storyline behind it. The big pay off is meant to be the ppv yet we get these matches every week. Pretending as if the womens division is actually good to watch (it isn't) it's improved but give me a bra and panties match with torrie and Stacy over brie Bella booting someone in the head any day. Roman reigns. If you are literally willing to sacrifice every single other wrestlers hard work just so Roman can be borderline cheered you need to have a look at yourself. It's ridiculous. Pretending to be this pro-womens evolution company and then hold ppvs in saudi Arabia in front of rich guys who hardly give a crap. A thousand commercial breaks. The over use of nicknames. The LED board ring and ring posts. And Michael ing Cole.
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Post by Falconsinclair on Sept 26, 2018 0:57:33 GMT -5
Personally I like the LED boards on the ring as it helps give the show a "Big Event" feel (If only the shows themselves lived up to that feeling).
Kevin Dunn needs to be moved into another position if they are unwilling to fire him or force him to retire from his current position. Over the last few years his cuts have gotten worse and worse resulting in the current "Watching a live Earthquake feeling"
The women from the "Diva's Era" have to really step aside and let today's crop of young talented women take the spotlight. The only exception to this is Natalya who was always a wrestler struck in the Diva's Era. If WWE wants to continue with Total Diva's let that show focus on how the women find themselves trying to move on AFTER their days as performers have come to an end.
Despite Roman being the current top merch seller it's time for the WWE to move away from having "THE GUY." There are so many talented wrestlers on the roster today that keep getting pushed aside to make "THE GUY" look good at the end of the day.
Finally I think that the WWE has to hire writers who know WRESTLING. If that means giving the Road Agents more creative control then I am all for this. Those guys understand wrestling as they came from through the business. Dusty Rhodes has always been credited as one of the most creative minds in the business, the WWE should be focusing on trying to cultivate the next Dusty Rhodes. The Wrestlers should also be given more chances to get themselves over organically by sending them out to the ring for promo's with only bullet points on what they have to say. Everyone sounds the exact same in this current era of fully scripted promos. The shows should also return to an old school wrestling feel where the show actually builds towards the Main Event. There should be a decent opening match (not a 30 minute promo) then the show should start building the nights Main Event. Shows can still end with a segment to build the Network Specials (I refuse to use the term PPV anymore).
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Post by BSR on Sept 26, 2018 7:43:39 GMT -5
Michael Cole is the worst part.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 8:05:51 GMT -5
I get it, it's a tough time of the year. I mean, Monday Night Football is on...and Monday Night Kickoff, SportsCenter at midnight, Hannity, Rachel Maddow, Tucker Carlson, Last Word, The Story, Special Report, The Ingraham Angle, The Five, Dancing With The Stars, Big Bang Theory, The Voice, The Resident, and Penn & Teller. They had a lot of competition in the attitude era as well...
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Post by winxclubflora on Sept 26, 2018 11:37:31 GMT -5
Not surprised when looking at the Universal, Women and Tag Team champs (Ziggler is alright but Drew Sheepshagger instead of Apollo Crews or KENTA Kobayashi? That's the worst booking imaginable).
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Post by theicwguy on Sept 26, 2018 16:04:11 GMT -5
Not surprised when looking at the Universal, Women and Tag Team champs (Ziggler is alright but Drew Sheepshagger instead of Apollo Crews or KENTA Kobayashi? That's the worst booking imaginable). Drew ing Sheepshagger?
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Post by jayrod2009 on Sept 26, 2018 16:23:08 GMT -5
Is anyone surprised? The product is so stale today. We have essentially the same group of stars on top weekly as we have had over the past five years. Matches get tehashed so many times throughout the year from show to show and on PPV’s that its easy to lose interest. Then, when the crowd actually gets behind someone and creative doesn’t want that person to have that much of a following, instead of using the crowd to push them to the next level, they water the character down via jobs or poor sgments, and when brass finally calls for their push the crowd is over the hype and the push comes of lackluster. Braun is a great example. He should have been World Champion last year, yet he still chases a title after being so destructive. What does the writters decide to do with him? Turn him heel and give him a small stable after proving he was solid main event monster running through top talent like Reigns and Lesnar. So, when he finally captures the title, the crowd will be like “What took so long, yay” instead of a roof blowing “Wooooo!”
WWE needs to cut their shows back to 2 hours, drop all of the content that clutters the market, and solidify a solid working roster. Introduce local wrestlers and jobbers as feed talent to put over heels and faces. Get back on a 2 man commentary booth so we can break away from one liners, color, and sound effects. Drop the production value down a few pegs, darken the audience, toss the LED apron for traditional aprons, and get some better writters. I feel like WWE has become late 90’s WCW where they are stacked with talent, but have too many stars on a show full of filler segments instead of showcasing their talent in ring. Wrestling has changed. People want more carnival style wrestling. People want the old drama soap box wrestling with intense in-ring action. I’m not saying turn WWE into some indy fest, but NXT seems to have the proper formula down. Weekly shows have a less-is-more strategy and PPV’s are all-out-action. Seems to be the winning formula, not every star needs showcased each week.
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Post by JOEJOEJOEJOE on Sept 26, 2018 16:28:00 GMT -5
Raw puts me to sleep
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Post by LA Times on Sept 26, 2018 21:20:42 GMT -5
I heard 33% of the audience falls asleep before 9PM, 66% of the audience falls asleep before 10PM and 99% of the audience falls asleep before 11PM.
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Post by Bandalero on Sept 26, 2018 21:52:29 GMT -5
it's over-saturation and over-exposure of the wrestlers, leads to burnout, low performance, low ratings, everything. It's like what 10+ of solid WWE wrestling content produced each week, not to mention they are carting their talent all over the world for one night stands. Sure the money is good, but it's not sustainable in the long run. Since RAW went to 3 hours it was the down hill turn for me. And the announcing team no matter the combo has been bad since the late 90s
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Post by Darkhawk on Sept 27, 2018 1:31:52 GMT -5
Maybe it's because all the men's champions on Raw are in one storyline. That's what's killing ratings..-.-
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