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Post by Hulkster2001 on Oct 30, 2018 7:24:53 GMT -5
Instead of losing to Hogan at This Tuesday In Texas, what if he had retained it? What if Taker had kept the title past 1991? How long would it have lasted? Does he lose it at Mania 8 or at a later date like Summerslam? Who beats him? Hogan? The returning Warrior? Flair? Savage? How would this have gone over with the fans?
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 30, 2018 12:50:03 GMT -5
Depends on a few factors. If Sid agreed to stay Vince may have kept him face and have him beat Taker at WM for the belt. In this case since Flair wouldn’t be the champ we might also get Hogan/Flair in Hogan’s retirement match.
Maybe Taker holds it until around SummerSlam ‘92 where Bret beats him.
Maybe Savage beats Taker at WM for the belt.
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Post by JokerFC on Nov 1, 2018 5:46:13 GMT -5
Ya see the reason He got it in the first place (according to many sources) was to get it off Hogan, get Flair involved and facilitate Hogan vs Flair @ WM8 without them meeting up.....
At the time? It was a solid plan that IMO would have paid off well. But then everything changed....Hogan said he was outta there after WM8. So the switch had to be to someone who was gonna be around....apparently Flair retaining wasn't an option. Enter Savage who was getting very popular again due to the Jake angle.
Lots of moving parts at this time. Has Prichard spoken about WM8 on his podcast yet? Its gotta be something folks wanna hear about?
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Post by koreygunz on Nov 1, 2018 7:05:29 GMT -5
Ya see the reason He got it in the first place (according to many sources) was to get it off Hogan, get Flair involved and facilitate Hogan vs Flair @ WM8 without them meeting up..... At the time? It was a solid plan that IMO would have paid off well. But then everything changed....Hogan said he was outta there after WM8. So the switch had to be to someone who was gonna be around....apparently Flair retaining wasn't an option. Enter Savage who was getting very popular again due to the Jake angle. Lots of moving parts at this time. Has Prichard spoken about WM8 on his podcast yet? Its gotta be something folks wanna hear about? Prichard left the company in the summer of 91 and returned a year later, so he wasnt here in this time frame. I've always heard rumors (and I think may have even been confirmed in a Paul Bearer shoot interview) that the original plan was for Taker to beat Hogan, Piper to take the title from Taker at Tuesday in Texas, Flair beats Piper at the Rumble, and then we get Flair vs Hogan at WM8. I tend to believe this was the original plan because they even run a bit of an angle with Piper cutting a promo on Taker at the end of Survivor Series. But then, as they say, "plans changed."
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 1, 2018 8:58:20 GMT -5
Ya see the reason He got it in the first place (according to many sources) was to get it off Hogan, get Flair involved and facilitate Hogan vs Flair @ WM8 without them meeting up..... At the time? It was a solid plan that IMO would have paid off well. But then everything changed....Hogan said he was outta there after WM8. So the switch had to be to someone who was gonna be around....apparently Flair retaining wasn't an option. Enter Savage who was getting very popular again due to the Jake angle. Lots of moving parts at this time. Has Prichard spoken about WM8 on his podcast yet? Its gotta be something folks wanna hear about? Prichard left the company in the summer of 91 and returned a year later, so he wasnt here in this time frame. I've always heard rumors (and I think may have even been confirmed in a Paul Bearer shoot interview) that the original plan was for Taker to beat Hogan, Piper to take the title from Taker at Tuesday in Texas, Flair beats Piper at the Rumble, and then we get Flair vs Hogan at WM8. I tend to believe this was the original plan because they even run a bit of an angle with Piper cutting a promo on Taker at the end of Survivor Series. But then, as they say, "plans changed." Never heard that. That would have been cool to see Piper as World Champion then drop the Title to Flair around Rumble time. Though, that may have messed up one of my favorite matches of all-time, Bret vs. Piper for the IC Title at WM8. Unless they get Piper to win the Title from the Mountie at SNME in February. It seems that Taker was always supposed to be just a transitional champion to get the belt off Hogan and get it on Flair without Hogan actually losing to Flair. And I guess plans changed when Hogan decided to leave the company after WM8. Though, they still could have done the Hogan vs. Flair match for the title with Hogan winning by DQ. Having Perfect interfere in the match costing Hogan the title with Flair and Perfect double teaming him. You could have had Savage run down and try to help only for Papa Shango to run down and make it a 3 on 2 situation. Which would still set it up for Warrior's big return. Then you have the top three faces of the company (Hogan, Savage, Warrior) ending the show (raising each others arms as fireworks pop off - you could even set up a Macho/Warrior build up with Savage seeming indifferent to Warrior being there). This sets up the Flair vs. Savage program and the Warrior vs. Papa Shango program. And, you get Hogan vs. Flair at Mania when they were both still in/around the prime.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Nov 1, 2018 13:56:47 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of that entire era, but it is crazy to think about the roster turnover in 1992.
Just look at how star-studded the 1992 Rumble was and flash forward to 1993 where the roster was shockingly thin.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 3, 2018 11:53:18 GMT -5
Ya see the reason He got it in the first place (according to many sources) was to get it off Hogan, get Flair involved and facilitate Hogan vs Flair @ WM8 without them meeting up..... At the time? It was a solid plan that IMO would have paid off well. But then everything changed....Hogan said he was outta there after WM8. So the switch had to be to someone who was gonna be around....apparently Flair retaining wasn't an option. Enter Savage who was getting very popular again due to the Jake angle. Lots of moving parts at this time. Has Prichard spoken about WM8 on his podcast yet? Its gotta be something folks wanna hear about? Prichard left the company in the summer of 91 and returned a year later, so he wasnt here in this time frame. I've always heard rumors (and I think may have even been confirmed in a Paul Bearer shoot interview) that the original plan was for Taker to beat Hogan, Piper to take the title from Taker at Tuesday in Texas, Flair beats Piper at the Rumble, and then we get Flair vs Hogan at WM8. I tend to believe this was the original plan because they even run a bit of an angle with Piper cutting a promo on Taker at the end of Survivor Series. But then, as they say, "plans changed." I heard something similar, but slightly different. Taker legit injured Hogan at SS, giving him a stinger. There was concern that hogan would not be able to wrestle at Tuesday in Texas, so on the fly they came up with the Piper being his replacement and taking the Title( and,like you said, cutting the promo to start the set-up). But then Hogan was going to be able to wrestle, so they scrapped that plan.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 3, 2018 12:06:20 GMT -5
But to answer the OP's question...
- after the shicanery of Tuesday in Texas, Tunney orders a final rematch between WWF Champion Undertaker and Hogan at the Rumble. Again, flair comes down and interferes, costing Hogan the Title.
- in the Rumble match itself, Hogan comes down and interferes,allowing Flair to get eliminated. They brawl all the way up the aisle.
- Sid Justice wins the Rumble match.
- WrestleMania has a double main event :
WWF Champion the Undertaker vs Sid Justice
Hulk Hogan vs Ric Flair in a "Loser Leaves the WWF Match"
- Sid and Taker go on halfway through, with Sid taking the Title.
- Hogan and Flair go on last, with Flair winning via countout when Mr. Perfect clips the knee outside. Flair and Perfect start going to town on Hogan in the ring til the Ultimate Warrior's music hits and he clears the ring. Show ends with hogan and Warrior posing in the ring while Monsoon laments the end of Hulkamania. Hogan then leaves to go make his movies.
- SummerSlam main event is Sid defending vs Flair, where Flair finally gets the Belt. He loses it as happened to Bret in October.
- early 1993, Beefcake comes back and has his match against I.R.S. as happened.
- next week Hogan comes out and petitions Jack Tunney to be reinstated so he can help Beefcake avenge what Money,Inc. did to him. Citing the controversial nature of his loss at Mania 8, Tunny reinstates Hogan.
- WrestleMania IX goes as it did.
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Post by warriorlynx on Nov 4, 2018 9:19:12 GMT -5
Sid was brought in to take Hogan's spot. There are so many stories around, don't even know what to believe anymore. Sid was to get the title at This Tuesday in Texas but was "injured" so that didn't work and Hogan wanted to work with him instead and so they turned Sid heel (since he liked being a heel anyway).
If Taker held the belt he would've dropped it by Wrestlemania. I highly doubt Vince would've kept the title on him for that long.
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Post by The Brain on Nov 6, 2018 15:03:07 GMT -5
If Taker had a longer 1st reign then we wouldn't of had Flair's classic Rumble 92 victory. After all you gotta be fair to Flair!
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