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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Nov 29, 2018 20:21:31 GMT -5
Just read sonething from Wrestlevotes or something similarly named, they reported that Seth was scheduled to drop the IC title before Dean Ambrose heel turn.
The plan was for Dean to cost Seth the title allowing Elias(!) To capture his first championship gold.
They haven't said why the idea was scrapped, but in a way I'm glad he didn't win thebtitle that way, I think he's good enough to win a title cleanly.
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Post by rkmo: Cheats & Geeks on Nov 29, 2018 20:31:28 GMT -5
Guessing all the upheaval going on with the Raw roster moved plans up. A longer burn before Dean's turn and Elias remaining heel for a tad longer as champion.
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Post by Triple S on Nov 29, 2018 20:35:46 GMT -5
He (or Ziggler) should’ve dropped it to Bálor months ago.
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Post by blissfan4life on Nov 29, 2018 20:45:01 GMT -5
Wished they would have went ahead with Elias instead of giving another undeserved Reign to Ziggler. |
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Post by marino13 on Nov 29, 2018 20:45:31 GMT -5
I think everything planned went out the window with Roman's news.
Elias would be a good IC champ, but now I'd have Dean win it. Let Dean have a nice run with it. And maybe have Dean drop it to Finn at WM. It's a new match up and Finn could use the spotlight and boost.
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Post by RybackV1 on Nov 29, 2018 21:39:36 GMT -5
Regardless of who he drops the IC belt to, Seth should 100% be the next Universal Champion
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Nov 29, 2018 21:56:03 GMT -5
To me neither Dean nor Rollins should have the title now, their storyline is so personal the title is the last thing in anyone's mind.
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Post by ecdub on Nov 30, 2018 3:10:44 GMT -5
i really can't stand elias. he's a horrible guitar player, sings off key, looks too big to be a convincing "troubadour" and has an extremely punchable face that no amount of beard can cover up.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Nov 30, 2018 8:03:57 GMT -5
Regardless of who he drops the IC belt to, Seth should 100% be the next Universal Champion Remove "next" and you have a more accurate statement. |
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Nov 30, 2018 8:04:34 GMT -5
i really can't stand elias. he's a horrible guitar player, sings off key, looks too big to be a convincing "troubadour" and has an extremely punchable face that no amount of beard can cover up. And how good are your guitar skills? What band do you sing in? I'm not saying he's a Grammy award winning singer but damn. He's better than I am, so that means I'm in no position to degrade what someone does. |
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Post by MacReady on Nov 30, 2018 9:44:38 GMT -5
i really can't stand elias. he's a horrible guitar player, sings off key, looks too big to be a convincing "troubadour" and has an extremely punchable face that no amount of beard can cover up. And how good are your guitar skills? What band do you sing in? I'm not saying he's a Grammy award winning singer but damn. He's better than I am, so that means I'm in no position to degrade what someone does. This is the same internet wrestling message board that derides guys with professional training and say they "can't wrestle".... asking for the prior skills before deriding said someone is irrelevant. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 30, 2018 11:05:36 GMT -5
I was actually really impressed with how much better Elias has gotten on guitar at Starrcade from where he started.
Also, Rollins for Rumble winner. Whatever gets us there is fine by me. I thought he was going to drop it to Ziggler on Monday for the sole purpose of getting the IC Title away from his feud with Ambrose.
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Post by McBlake on Nov 30, 2018 11:30:48 GMT -5
To me neither Dean nor Rollins should have the title now, their storyline is so personal the title is the last thing in anyone's mind. This. Its the kind of storyline in which Ambrose should cost Rollins the title to elevate it to the next level. Not Ambrose telling how Rollins how much his fans smell 🙄 I reckon the Reigns news has cost Elias his shot. Especially with them putting the Universal title back in Lesnar. Elias just doesn't have enough star power to hold the biggest title on Raw when Brock's not around. |
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Post by ecdub on Nov 30, 2018 12:50:00 GMT -5
And how good are your guitar skills? What band do you sing in? I'm not saying he's a Grammy award winning singer but damn. He's better than I am, so that means I'm in no position to degrade what someone does. if i told you, i wouldn't be anonymous. elias had to cancel shows in my city in venues that i've sold out. serious. |
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Post by CM Poor on Nov 30, 2018 13:07:20 GMT -5
I guess I'm the only person who missed the part of Elias' character where he was supposed to be perceived as a world class musical talent.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 30, 2018 13:15:37 GMT -5
Seth should hold the IC Title right through until Wrestlemania and challenge Lesnar in a Title vs. Title match.
I don't want to see Dean Ambrose as IC Champion again.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Nov 30, 2018 14:32:42 GMT -5
He sucks so bad he's still getting paid more than you. That's wild. What a world we live in. he's getting paid to wrestle he looks like a wrestler. i never said chit about his build or his in ring skills. but i guess you can't have an intelligent conversation with someone who has a pedophile in their avatar and a nazi pun for a user handle. You're new here so I'll fill you in. Most times you're not allowed to state your opinion because it's not the same as 99.97% of everyone else on this board. Tow "their" line and you'll be accepted. Individual thought is frowned upon! But yeah, I agree with everything you've said about Elias. Crappy guitar player and crappy worker. Anyway. I think they should really invest time with an IC champion instead of so many different title changes. Hell, someone needs to break Honkytonk Mans record! Let Drew carry it for 90 weeks. |
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Post by k5 on Nov 30, 2018 18:31:09 GMT -5
Another original hamfist attempt at attacking my avatar and user name bc you feel hurt I don't share your opinion. You sure got me good bud. I brought up money bc you stated you sold out venues that he hasn't filled. He's a wrestler, not a music star. You're better at music (based off your comments) and he's better at wrestling. Really not that far of a reach to assume you couldn't sell out a stadium doing his profession and he can't at yours but he's still doing better than you overall. Buuuut what do I know I'm just a neo-nazi pedo supporter on the internet 🤷🏻 obviously you have bad taste. i was just pointing it out. also when has elias sold out a stadium wrestling? he's one of how many on any given card? and wwe runs stadiums how many times a year? 5? 6? also- working his garbage singer/songwriter gimmick, wwe had to cancel his "gig" at a 500 capacity theater in nyc when summerslam was in town. that means that even with a publicly traded, multinational corporation behind him on their second biggest weekend of the year, he couldn't even move 300 tickets @ $20. stick to what you know. like "rappers" that look like a pack of skittles that will soon become deposit boxes for the g-lords in federal prison hahah savage. anyways, I thought Elias being crapty at guitar was kind of part of the schtick. apparently that’s not the case. |
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Post by crashholly2002 on Nov 30, 2018 19:34:52 GMT -5
gotta love when people get upset over Elias doing his job as a HEEL wrestler, also;
"elias had to cancel shows in my city in venues that i've sold out."
sounds pretty fake
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Post by FLUX '97 on Nov 30, 2018 19:58:18 GMT -5
gotta love when people get upset over Elias doing his job as a HEEL wrestler, also; "elias had to cancel shows in my city in venues that i've sold out." sounds pretty fake He’s face now. |
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I dont know good luck 
