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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 16:53:14 GMT -5
Perhaps I'm stealing someone else's gimmick around here  Sometime in 1997 there was a point where three people were the wwe's creative team. Vince McMahon, Jim Cornette, and Vince Russo. This was the start of the real life feud between Cornette and Russo that lasts until today. Both guys butted heads over how Raw should be presented. Cornette came up with old school wrestling ideas that made sense, while Russo wanted wwe to be a cross between Jerry Springer and Howard Stern. Russo wanted to throw the traditional wrestling rule book out the window which didn't sit well with Cornette. Russo couldn't stand the arguments so he told McMahon he has to choose between Russo and Cornette because them working together was "wasting the company's time". Russo claims it wasn't an ultimatum, but it sounds like it to me! I don't know what exactly McMahon said to Cornette, but he was let go from the creative team as McMahon chose Russo and that had something to do with the attitude era. I won't say that Russo was completely responsible for the success of the attitude era, but he convinced McMahon to step out of his comfort zone and try something new. But what if McMahon went with Cornette and told Russo to go F himself after the ultimatum? You think wwe would have been as successful? I know the attitude era wouldn't happen, but do you think McMahon and Cornette would have somehow got wwe to overtake wcw in the ratings? |
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Post by The Brain on Dec 8, 2018 22:02:40 GMT -5
Vince made the right move with choosing Russo as classic southern style wrestling just wouldn't slide during the late 90s as the biz was completely changed by that point.
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Post by nibs92 on Dec 9, 2018 6:30:12 GMT -5
I would have loved to see Cornette booking Raw opposite Heyman’s Smackdown around about the time of the brand split. Their collective knowledge and real life rivalry would have ushered in the greatest era of wrestling ever.
As for Cornette instead of Russo, I’ll pass. I just don’t see him taking the WWF to the heights that Russo car crash style did.
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Post by PJ on Dec 9, 2018 6:55:06 GMT -5
Honestly I was not a big fan of the Attitude Era. I feel to this day that it was way overrated. It wouldn’t have been as popular with Cornette, but it would have been better. The real “what if” is what if WCW didn’t hire that fool Russo after Vince fired him would WCW still be around?
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Post by nibs92 on Dec 9, 2018 7:05:43 GMT -5
Honestly I was not a big fan of the Attitude Era. I feel to this day that it was way overrated. It wouldn’t have been as popular with Cornette, but it would have been better. The real “what if” is what if WCW didn’t hire that fool Russo after Vince fired him would WCW still be around? I think WCW was headed downhill before Russo took the helm. Time warner merger would have killed it regardless |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 9, 2018 7:38:09 GMT -5
Cornette was obsessed with kayfabe and would've tried to keep up with the times by doing weird fake "shoot" storylines. His Guest Booker DVD where he fantasy books WrestleMania X8 is an indicator of what a mess he'd have made if given the pencil in the late 90s and early 2000s.
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Dec 9, 2018 11:20:22 GMT -5
I think Vinve McMahon was smart to choose Russo. Russo was a breath of fresh air in the Attitude Era.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Dec 9, 2018 11:59:22 GMT -5
Put Cornette in charge of writing in 1997 when his own Smoky Mountain Wrestling died in 1995?? No thanks.
Vinnie Ru was the right choice to make in the late 90s for creative story lines with the WWE.
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Post by K5 on Dec 9, 2018 13:07:53 GMT -5
yeah, I love Cornette, but there is no way he should’ve been head of creative in 97 - he was completely the right guy to filter bullcrapand should’ve been listened to a bit more - rather it was vader’s treatment or Michael's behaviour.
the nwa invasion showed how dated a lot of jim’s mentality towards the business was at that point.
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Post by wolfpac on Dec 9, 2018 14:33:06 GMT -5
You could probably take a lot of the things he did in OVW as an indication of the angles he would have used just switch out the ovw guys for the 98/99 roster
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 14:44:57 GMT -5
Put Cornette in charge of writing in 1997 when his own Smoky Mountain Wrestling died in 1995?? No thanks. Vinnie Ru was the right choice to make in the late 90s for creative story lines with the WWE. SMW didn't go under in 95 because of Jim's writing. |
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Post by drifter on Dec 12, 2018 23:17:37 GMT -5
Honestly I was not a big fan of the Attitude Era. I feel to this day that it was way overrated. It wouldn’t have been as popular with Cornette, but it would have been better. The real “what if” is what if WCW didn’t hire that fool Russo after Vince fired him would WCW still be around? I think WCW was headed downhill before Russo took the helm. Time warner merger would have killed it regardless Exactly. WCW was well on the down slope when he and Ferrara were hired. Unless WCW was pulling in massive amounts of money, and huge ratings, they were doomed by the time the merger came around, because the people taking over, didn't want wrestling. Maybe if WCW was in better shape, they could have had a chance to find a new home and stay open, but honestly, by 2001, we were starting the slide down the hill, from the peak of it's popularity in the late 90s. Russo was basically just the last problem of the end of WCW. The 'inmates running the asylum' attitude that was in the locker room from Bischoff letting guys like Hogan, Hall, Nash and others do whatever they wanted, with no consequences had already done a lot of damage to the company. Adding an un-filtered Russo to the mix didn't help matters, but he was just another anchor tied added to the several existing ones that WCW already had. |
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