walkingturtles
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Post by walkingturtles on Dec 11, 2018 23:01:02 GMT -5
If the retailers don’t want it then Mattel’s not going to make it. As for Bill his asking for pictures I am pretty sure he said he would pass it along to that department. Still Mattel has no say in when the stores restock their shelves. Mattel doesn’t sell or ship to individual mass retail stores. They sell to the corporate buyers and ship what is ordered to one main distribution center. Then that distribution center ships it to all their other distribution centers who then ship it to the store in their district. So Mattel really has no control over that. And he left because people here didn’t constructively criticize the product...instead they took personal shots at him and his work ethic calling him lazy. And regardless of what anyone here thinks it’s not his job to come here and ask for input or what we think. He did that as a courtesy because he is also a fan who happens to be the lead designer for Mattel’s WWE. People take things too far but at the same time, there are a lot of lazy and poor decisions being made at Mattel. I mean just the short packing on the most desired figures is head scratching. You pack Ultimate Warrior or HBK hwavy and make Razor harder to find so maybe people will buy him, he’s rotting shelves. Not only that but when you have made one Razor attire and he’s that popular , make another you have so many options. Mattel has this tendency to pass over the obvious desires attires to give us fandoms that no one wants. |
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GoldenHulk
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Post by GoldenHulk on Dec 11, 2018 23:18:00 GMT -5
Making this about the name you know who works for Mattel so people have someone to vent their frustration on seems like a bad choice. Not constructive at all.
So on topic, these still haven't shown up anywhere near. Two stores have been showing a case in inventory for weeks now but they've never actually appeared anywhere in the store, and even if they did it would probably be wave 2. So they've got inventory and distribution problems to contend with. I would not be surprised if there's some random Walmart in the middle of nowhere sitting on 10 cases of these that were supposed to be distributed to other stores. The only people who seem to be gaining from this are the scalpers/aftermarket ebay sellers.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Dec 11, 2018 23:22:21 GMT -5
Haven’t seen them in my area.
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Post by FFK on Dec 12, 2018 0:03:58 GMT -5
They’ll be somewhere eventually. They have tons sitting somewhere since they’ve really on hit the eastern part of the country. I’ve never not seen something at retail.
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Post by buddyboy101 on Dec 12, 2018 0:10:29 GMT -5
You don't even seem to know what you're criticizing him for. He saw us bitching about distribution and wanted pictures that he could show, in other words, he wanted proof. I don't know if anything came of it...but in my area, distribution has definitely improved. Bill doesn't hold himself out as anything, he's a toy designer who came here and interacted with us until we crapped all over that. It's absolutely our fault he doesn't post here any more. There is very little constructive criticism. Instead what we do is exactly what YOU'RE doing and making it personal. Learn the difference. Also, you don't even know what f.l.i.p.p.a.n.t means. (BTW, "f.l.i.p.p.a.n.t.l.y" is not even a word) f.l.i.p.p.a.n.c.y is characterized by shallowness or a lack of respect. Telling someone "I don't know how Walmart allocates their exclusives" is a direct answer to that question. What is "I'll escalate this to our distribution team" going to do? You think someone is going to call the CEO of Walmart and ask them where their Harley Race figures are because sweaty neckbeards online don't have their man toys? Please. Are you his son or something? Way to have a tantrum and to take some stranger's opinion so personally. It's too easy sometimes. And yes, "fli.ppantly" is a word: www.dictionary.com/browse/spamntly Again, too easy.  |
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powerfred3k
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Post by powerfred3k on Dec 12, 2018 0:27:14 GMT -5
Mattel was the best and worst thing to ever happen to the WWE action figure line. The figures are great, but actually finding the ones you want is damn near impossible. Like i said before, its like christmas and your birthday combined because it happens so rarely. Meanwhile elite harley race aka the most wanted figure in this latest/last baf set is going for over $100 bucks on ebay. So Mattel screwed everyone who wanted that figure and can't get one or will not pay that ebay price over. |
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Post by powerfred3k on Dec 12, 2018 0:35:30 GMT -5
With all these Fan Central waves hitting I am worried we won't see it till next year if at all but I bet it ends up at some other store somewhere possibly. I would not plan on seeing any more of this series at least at walmarts. Maybe in like 6 months there will be leftovers that pop up at big lots, but that is a big maybe. Walmart could have just cut there order on series 3 figures like they seem to have done with the then now forever elites before they cancelled that series as well. What i do know is i have one walmart store near me that has been out of them for 4-5 weeks now, which is a really bad sign. Why doesn't someone on twitter ask bill if walmart cut there order of series 3 flashbacks to confirm ? |
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Post by bonefan32 on Dec 12, 2018 1:05:02 GMT -5
I was really hoping to find them but for some reason like the last month the main Walmart I go to only has a few from elite 60.
Hopefully it gets better after the holidays
Also a little of topic but the lady who stocks the toys said a old guy came in and wanted to buy the WWE figures she had but all she had was like 4 sets of elite 60 in the back and he ended up buying all 4 sets.
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Post by anddrew on Dec 12, 2018 1:22:15 GMT -5
I picked up the whole set on Halloween, and I'm glad I did. But here's the thing, the store I got them from was the poorest stocked store in area I lived in. But the kicker is, in that area I never saw a restock of the series three, and never saw series two of the basic BAF. But honestly who knows, I wonder if these will end up like Series two of the retros? In about a year later they'll pop up at ollies or big lots? But it sucks because that set it awesome.
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Post by RanchoDagobah on Dec 12, 2018 4:33:38 GMT -5
Havent seen jj dillon or shawn figs. At all. Wow that is crazy because my local Wal Mart has had, literally like 3 cases of JJ BAF sit on the shelf for 3 months and not sold a single one (and not discounted them either) Wal Mart’s distribution is so f’d up There are 4 Walmart stores that are 10-25 minutes from my house here in southeast Louisiana. All 4 never got the JJ BAF line or Flashback series 3. Only one got FB series 2. The closest Walmart to me still has one set of the Howard Finkle BAF still on the pegs. I had to resort to eBay to get Harley Race and I got it for $40 shipped. JJ BAF I picked up off Walmart.com at cost. The way I look at it I’ve wasted over $40 in gas looking the last month for JJ and Race. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 4:43:15 GMT -5
Its pathetic that people are making some kind of connection between Bill, the designer, and the fact Walmart dont distribute their stock equally, or order enough for all their stores
If we all buy figures in store instead of online, then stores will of course be inclined to order more, you cant expect stores to carry stock when most people buy them online
The only way to avoid not being able to find figures you want in the future is to buy the ones you want now in a store and not online
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powerfred3k
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Post by powerfred3k on Dec 12, 2018 13:19:12 GMT -5
People need to stop giving mattel a pass for the horrible distribution of this series/set. Its there product and there name on the label.
Do they do any follow up after they send it to walmart warehouses ? It sure does not sound like it, and that costs them money in lost sales if its not getting to stores.
You would think this would be common sense, maybe not. I can totally see in a few months rsc will magically get a bunch of these figures to sell on there site like the tnf elites.
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Post by lefreeman991 on Dec 12, 2018 13:39:17 GMT -5
For sur they will sell for cheap in a few weeks or months. Mattel need to produce a lot of each figure to reduce the fabrication cost (even for exclusives).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 13:59:09 GMT -5
People need to stop giving mattel a pass for the horrible distribution of this series/set. Its there product and there name on the label. Do they do any follow up after they send it to walmart warehouses ? It sure does not sound like it, and that costs them money in lost sales if its not getting to stores. You would think this would be common sense, maybe not. I can totally see in a few months rsc will magically get a bunch of these figures to sell on there site like the tnf elites. Once a company buys from Mattel Im pretty sure they couldnt care less of they chucked it all on a bonfire, Mattel get paid whether the stock sells well or not, why do you think they rename and rebrand the lines so often |
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Post by buddyboy101 on Dec 12, 2018 15:17:57 GMT -5
People need to stop giving mattel a pass for the horrible distribution of this series/set. Its there product and there name on the label. Do they do any follow up after they send it to walmart warehouses ? It sure does not sound like it, and that costs them money in lost sales if its not getting to stores. You would think this would be common sense, maybe not. I can totally see in a few months rsc will magically get a bunch of these figures to sell on there site like the tnf elites. Once a company buys from Mattel Im pretty sure they couldnt care less of they chucked it all on a bonfire, Mattel get paid whether the stock sells well or not, why do you think they rename and rebrand the lines so often Why would any retailer continue buying from Mattel if their stock doesn't move once in store? If that were to occur, the retailer would not make up for cost of acquiring the inventory. It's in everyone's interest for the product to be properly distributed. |
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Post by dirtyrandy on Dec 12, 2018 15:21:04 GMT -5
Two of my four nearest Walmarts have done away with the tags to the Flashback Series all together, while the other two are flooded with Series 2 elites. I can't blame Mattel for this, though. Those same Walmarts that have done away with the Flashbacks seem to have also done away with Marvel Legends, while the other two are flooded with the Antman line. Just seems like horrible distribution practices with Walmart. Luckily (perhaps unluckily?) I was able to win an auction for Harley Race for $135. The plus side is that it was also with Steamboat.
I'm not sure it was a technical glitch or if it just sold out due to demand, but it would be awesome if WWEShop were able to carry exclusive waves/figures as an auxiliary to Walmart and Target.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 15:29:16 GMT -5
Once a company buys from Mattel Im pretty sure they couldnt care less of they chucked it all on a bonfire, Mattel get paid whether the stock sells well or not, why do you think they rename and rebrand the lines so often Why would any retailer continue buying from Mattel if their stock doesn't move once in store? If that were to occur, the retailer would not make up for cost of acquiring the inventory. It's in everyone's interest for the product to be properly distributed. True, but ringside keep ordering and some of the figures they have in clearance are a couple of dollars, so everyone reduces the price of stock, places like Walmart distribute their stock to the stores they know sell it, so if stock takes ages to move in some stores, they wont get newer stuff, but the stores it flies out of will be the first Walmart distribution centres ship to, its just the way it is, but the small numbers of people buying in stores now arent high enough for the stores to be stocked |
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Post by buddyboy101 on Dec 12, 2018 15:44:39 GMT -5
it would be awesome if WWEShop were able to carry exclusive waves/figures as an auxiliary to Walmart and Target. Luckily we saw this occur recently with the Bob Backlund exclusive. Hopefully it will continue! Why would any retailer continue buying from Mattel if their stock doesn't move once in store? If that were to occur, the retailer would not make up for cost of acquiring the inventory. It's in everyone's interest for the product to be properly distributed. True, but ringside keep ordering and some of the figures they have in clearance are a couple of dollars, so everyone reduces the price of stock, places like Walmart distribute their stock to the stores they know sell it, so if stock takes ages to move in some stores, they wont get newer stuff, but the stores it flies out of will be the first Walmart distribution centres ship to, its just the way it is, but the small numbers of people buying in stores now arent high enough for the stores to be stocked Yeah I don't think it's coincidental that Series 2 is clogging most Wal-Marts, which are likely the same locations that have not stocked Series 3. I guess Wal-Mart would rather wait for Series 2 to sell before it considers pushing Series 3. The irony, though, is that Series 3 would fly off the shelves (at least for a bit). By time Series 2 sells out, the interest in Series 3 might wane. So if I were Wal-Mart, I would remove at least half the Series 2 stock and store in the stores' warehouse, push Series 3 to the stores and have it replace the Series 2 stock that is now in the warehouse, and then once Series 3 sells out, replenish the Series 2 stock so that it continues to sell. I'm sure it's not that easy, and it's probably easier leaving Series 3 in a giant DC in Ohio rather than finding room for Series 2 in each store's warehouse, but these are issues that Mattel's distribution team should be grappling with. |
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Post by stinkfaceT on Dec 12, 2018 17:34:15 GMT -5
I can accept that Mattel felt Harley wouldn’t sell well (even if this board disagreed), and decided to do a smaller number of him. What I can’t figure out though is why it would be included in a BAF line then... Just poor planning and decisions by them in that regard. Now there are groups of people that wanted two different figures that either don’t have them or the one they wanted has no arms...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 17:37:02 GMT -5
I can accept that Mattel felt Harley wouldn’t sell well (even if this board disagreed), and decided to do a smaller number of him. What I can’t figure out though is why it would be included in a BAF line then... Just poor planning and decisions by them in that regard. Now there are groups of people that wanted two different figures that either don’t have them or the one they wanted has no arms... Both are available at least, without this line they wouldnt have been at all |
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