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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 15:08:14 GMT -5
Surely you dont honestly believe Mattel send random cases of stuff out without it being ordered? Come on, really? I mean when walmart and target orders wwe figures mattel just sends out whatever they have. But a company doesnt say "can we have some WWE figures please, we dont mind which ones, whichever you have lying around is fine" the company orders the latest series in advance, from order sheets, nothing about the process is random, I have ordered products direct from a manufacturer before and have never been sent random stuff, I always get what I ordered To think Walmart doesnt specify which products they want is naïve at best
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Dec 13, 2018 15:24:33 GMT -5
It's important to remember too, especially in the case of Wal-Mart, that the in-store back of house space is not nearly large enough to serve as a pick-and-pack hub to keep these stores replenished to a corporate standard. Individual stores are fed out of regional distribution centers that, in some cases, may cover entire states depending on your geographic location, and the replenishment procedures are largely automated based upon registered sales and/or manually scanned out of stock procedures. Wal-Mart is a machine in its own right, and there's a lot more in play here than your local toy department manager saying/not saying "get me that Pete Dunne!" or Bill sitting at Mattel HQ fanning himself with stacks of cash chortling "hahahaha! F*ck store #1796 in particular!" (as delightful a scenario as that is to imagine)
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Post by PJ on Dec 13, 2018 15:34:38 GMT -5
It's important to remember too, especially in the case of Wal-Mart, that the in-store back of house space is not nearly large enough to serve as a pick-and-pack hub to keep these stores replenished to a corporate standard. Individual stores are fed out of regional distribution centers that, in some cases, may cover entire states depending on your geographic location, and the replenishment procedures are largely automated based upon registered sales and/or manually scanned out of stock procedures. Wal-Mart is a machine in its own right, and there's a lot more in play here than your local toy department manager saying/not saying "get me that Pete Dunne!" or Bill sitting at Mattel HQ fanning himself with stacks of cash chortling "hahahaha! F*ck store #1796 in particular!" (as delightful a scenario as that is to imagine)While I personally like this member and think he’s taken enough grief for the whole E39 debacle I think we all know which board members store that would be if Bill carried a grudge. lol
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Dec 13, 2018 15:40:54 GMT -5
It's important to remember too, especially in the case of Wal-Mart, that the in-store back of house space is not nearly large enough to serve as a pick-and-pack hub to keep these stores replenished to a corporate standard. Individual stores are fed out of regional distribution centers that, in some cases, may cover entire states depending on your geographic location, and the replenishment procedures are largely automated based upon registered sales and/or manually scanned out of stock procedures. Wal-Mart is a machine in its own right, and there's a lot more in play here than your local toy department manager saying/not saying "get me that Pete Dunne!" or Bill sitting at Mattel HQ fanning himself with stacks of cash chortling "hahahaha! F*ck store #1796 in particular!" (as delightful a scenario as that is to imagine)While I personally like this member and think he’s taken enough grief for the whole E39 debacle I think we all know which board members store that would be if Bill carried a grudge. lol Well now I feel left out...I suppose that's what I get for relegating myself to one corner of the board for seven years and only starting in on these newfangled Elites last year.
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Post by powerfred3k on Dec 13, 2018 15:46:11 GMT -5
I mean when walmart and target orders wwe figures mattel just sends out whatever they have. But a company doesnt say "can we have some WWE figures please, we dont mind which ones, whichever you have lying around is fine" the company orders the latest series in advance, from order sheets, nothing about the process is random, I have ordered products direct from a manufacturer before and have never been sent random stuff, I always get what I ordered To think Walmart doesnt specify which products they want is naïve at best Yes and what i am saying is if walmart or target orders a whole pallet of elite 62 however long in advance to send to stores. Mattel sends them a pallet and if there happens to be a few or a lot of repacked elite 62 cases as long as there the same series mattel is not saying anything to target or walmart. Walmart and target and not gonna check and mattel I highly doubt is gonna say anything. Then we get reports of several people posting on this thread that mattel is sending repacked cases to there local stores.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 15:58:01 GMT -5
But a company doesnt say "can we have some WWE figures please, we dont mind which ones, whichever you have lying around is fine" the company orders the latest series in advance, from order sheets, nothing about the process is random, I have ordered products direct from a manufacturer before and have never been sent random stuff, I always get what I ordered To think Walmart doesnt specify which products they want is naïve at best Yes and what i am saying is if walmart or target orders a whole pallet of elite 62 however long in advance to send to stores. Mattel sends them a pallet and if there happens to be a few or a lot of repacked elite 62 cases as long as there the same series mattel is not saying anything to target or walmart. Walmart and target and not gonna check and mattel I highly doubt is gonna say anything. Then we get reports of several people posting on this thread that mattel is sending repacked cases to there local stores. But then the question would arise, why would Mattel have repacked cases before they had even shipped any of that series? Generally these mixed cases are showing up after the initial shipments
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Post by PJ on Dec 13, 2018 16:00:09 GMT -5
Well one of those members that said they saw a case packed out listed 10 figures the employee emptied out of the case that holds 8. lol
Again people could only be finding the remains of a case or two (I am pretty sure the Roman and Braun are the two per case figure) Or they could have gone to a store where someone dropped all the pegwarmers they purchased at their store to clean out their stores inventory. We read about members doing that all the time on here. Or it could have been overstock from the backroom because the cases were picked through in the back room prior to being put out. Whether it was an employee buying for themselves or getting a figure for a customer. I know employee check the backroom for me all the time and will just pull the figure I am looking for. I am sure I am not the only customer they do that for.
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Post by marino13 on Dec 13, 2018 18:02:22 GMT -5
Doesn't this come up EVERY Christmas?
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Post by powerfred3k on Dec 13, 2018 18:29:56 GMT -5
Well one of those members that said they saw a case packed out listed 10 figures the employee emptied out of the case that holds 8. lol Again people could only be finding the remains of a case or two (I am pretty sure the Roman and Braun are the two per case figure) Or they could have gone to a store where someone dropped all the pegwarmers they purchased at their store to clean out their stores inventory. We read about members doing that all the time on here. Or it could have been overstock from the backroom because the cases were picked through in the back room prior to being put out. Whether it was an employee buying for themselves or getting a figure for a customer. I know employee check the backroom for me all the time and will just pull the figure I am looking for. I am sure I am not the only customer they do that for. Ok so either mattel is repacking cases of elites or walmart/target employees are scalping the more wanted figures in the backroom, or both. So whats the point of these being sold at retail anymore if you can never find the ones you want ? If mattel gets to keep the license why don't just make elites online only for rsc, amazon, etc.
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Post by cableV on Dec 13, 2018 18:41:39 GMT -5
Doesn't this come up EVERY Christmas? Yes. I think they used to be designated "Best Of" cases, but for last two years they have just been cases of random figures from last few series.
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Post by LA Times on Dec 13, 2018 18:53:22 GMT -5
Well one of those members that said they saw a case packed out listed 10 figures the employee emptied out of the case that holds 8. lol Again people could only be finding the remains of a case or two (I am pretty sure the Roman and Braun are the two per case figure) Or they could have gone to a store where someone dropped all the pegwarmers they purchased at their store to clean out their stores inventory. We read about members doing that all the time on here. Or it could have been overstock from the backroom because the cases were picked through in the back room prior to being put out. Whether it was an employee buying for themselves or getting a figure for a customer. I know employee check the backroom for me all the time and will just pull the figure I am looking for. I am sure I am not the only customer they do that for. Ok so either mattel is repacking cases of elites or walmart/target employees are scalping the more wanted figures in the backroom, or both. So whats the point of these being sold at retail anymore if you can never find the ones you want ? If mattel gets to keep the license why don't just make elites online only for rsc, amazon, etc. The Walmart/Target/Toys r us employee/scalper is reaching bigfoot or loch nest monster level now
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 18:56:04 GMT -5
Ok so either mattel is repacking cases of elites or walmart/target employees are scalping the more wanted figures in the backroom, or both. So whats the point of these being sold at retail anymore if you can never find the ones you want ? If mattel gets to keep the license why don't just make elites online only for rsc, amazon, etc. The Walmart/Target/Toys r us employee/scalper is reaching bigfoot or loch nest monster level now lol its brilliantly awful, sometimes I cringe I just read a post from someone who has found Harley Race 3 times, how that avoided the infamous scalpers I dont know
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Post by buddyboy101 on Dec 13, 2018 19:01:58 GMT -5
Well one of those members that said they saw a case packed out listed 10 figures the employee emptied out of the case that holds 8. lol Again people could only be finding the remains of a case or two (I am pretty sure the Roman and Braun are the two per case figure) Or they could have gone to a store where someone dropped all the pegwarmers they purchased at their store to clean out their stores inventory. We read about members doing that all the time on here. Or it could have been overstock from the backroom because the cases were picked through in the back room prior to being put out. Whether it was an employee buying for themselves or getting a figure for a customer. I know employee check the backroom for me all the time and will just pull the figure I am looking for. I am sure I am not the only customer they do that for. Ok so either mattel is repacking cases of elites or walmart/target employees are scalping the more wanted figures in the backroom, or both. So whats the point of these being sold at retail anymore if you can never find the ones you want ? If mattel gets to keep the license why don't just make elites online only for rsc, amazon, etc. If Wal-Mart continues to buy, Mattel will continue to sell. I highly doubt RSC/Amazon combined could touch the volume of Wal-Mart alone. I think Mattel said TRU comprised about 20% of their business, so I imagine Wal-Mart and Target probably take another 50% together, which doesn't leave much of the pie for the other brick/mortar and online retailers. Keep in mind kids are a large component of Mattel's sales. I think impulse purchases due to a child's demand is much higher at brick/mortar than online. I was reading something online that touching a product increases the odds of buying it 50%. For kid purchases, that does not translate online.
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Post by dakis on Dec 13, 2018 19:13:22 GMT -5
Distribution is such an ongoing drama. Anybody who says it’s not Mattel’s fault missed the point that it’s matteks problem. I’d happily buy HBK baf set if I could. I can’t so they lose that money. I dare say I’m one of many. They can bury their heads if they wish, but it’s costing them plenty of cash. Cost me $155 dollars to buy this set. Sure enough after I bought the last one needed ( Steamboar for $44) I found them the very next day at my local Walmart (No Harley).
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Post by mcfclee on Dec 13, 2018 19:14:33 GMT -5
Distribution is such an ongoing drama. Anybody who says it’s not Mattel’s fault missed the point that it’s matteks problem. I’d happily buy HBK baf set if I could. I can’t so they lose that money. I dare say I’m one of many. They can bury their heads if they wish, but it’s costing them plenty of cash. Cost me $155 dollars to buy this set. Sure enough after I bought the last one needed ( Steamboar for $44) I found them the very next day at my local Walmart (No Harley). That sucks!
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Post by PJ on Dec 13, 2018 19:22:40 GMT -5
Well one of those members that said they saw a case packed out listed 10 figures the employee emptied out of the case that holds 8. lol Again people could only be finding the remains of a case or two (I am pretty sure the Roman and Braun are the two per case figure) Or they could have gone to a store where someone dropped all the pegwarmers they purchased at their store to clean out their stores inventory. We read about members doing that all the time on here. Or it could have been overstock from the backroom because the cases were picked through in the back room prior to being put out. Whether it was an employee buying for themselves or getting a figure for a customer. I know employee check the backroom for me all the time and will just pull the figure I am looking for. I am sure I am not the only customer they do that for. Ok so either mattel is repacking cases of elites or walmart/target employees are scalping the more wanted figures in the backroom, or both. So whats the point of these being sold at retail anymore if you can never find the ones you want ? If mattel gets to keep the license why don't just make elites online only for rsc, amazon, etc.Sorry but that’s the worst idea I ever heard of. While I do buy from both RSC and Amazon figures I can’t wait to own that would suck if that was the only option. That being said I don’t know about you, but for the most part I like to look for the best looking of the figure before I buy it.
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Post by buddyboy101 on Dec 13, 2018 19:23:09 GMT -5
Distribution is such an ongoing drama. Anybody who says it’s not Mattel’s fault missed the point that it’s matteks problem. I’d happily buy HBK baf set if I could. I can’t so they lose that money. I dare say I’m one of many. They can bury their heads if they wish, but it’s costing them plenty of cash. Cost me $155 dollars to buy this set. Sure enough after I bought the last one needed ( Steamboar for $44) I found them the very next day at my local Walmart (No Harley). Maybe re-sell what you can on eBay and repurchase them at Wal-Mart while they are still there. Sucks man. But good to see they're getting out.
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Post by anddrew on Dec 13, 2018 23:30:56 GMT -5
Has anyone tried to talk to Walmart, not at store level like distribution center level? Explain all your gripes and see what they say? It might not change anything but enough people complain who knows? I've said it before that it's almost 2019 if they can't stock stores adequately then they need more focus on online sales. Regardless of your thoughts on how things work, you'll never know until you ask, and if they give you some roundabout answer, oh well at least you tried.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Dec 14, 2018 1:31:24 GMT -5
This is all just more evidence that Mattel is losing the license! I know because...well I just know guys! Believe me!
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Post by theaxehennig on Dec 14, 2018 5:55:38 GMT -5
I’m seeing all of this “direct ordering” talk on this thread. Are we assuming a manager physically orders these? Walmart had an inventory system that was completely automated (at least back as long as 15-20 years ago). A specific SKU gets down to x units, it automatically replenishes.
I think the problem lies at Mattel. Surely Walmart wouldn’t see a product that mostly sold within the first few days and not reorder it.
Also, don’t all Elite lines and sub-lines carry the same SKU, so wouldn’t that account for some stores getting FB2 replenished, while others received FB3?
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