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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Oct 19, 2023 18:40:52 GMT -5
A program with Edge/Sammy would be good and the matches would deliver.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Oct 20, 2023 0:30:38 GMT -5
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Oct 25, 2023 22:49:20 GMT -5
We won't be getting RVD vs Punk but we can still get RVD vs Bryan, dream match right there.
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Post by CM Tusk on Oct 26, 2023 19:31:25 GMT -5
Jack Perry as the devil could work I guess as it would get heat but then the man would have to talk and he’s just a pro choker I’m sorry.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 27, 2023 9:28:02 GMT -5
Maybe he's been taking acting classes during his suspension lol.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Oct 27, 2023 10:45:46 GMT -5
I just realized what’s been driving me crazy. Moxley needs to go back to taping his fists like a boxer. The wrist tape/no wrist tape looks bad. Dean Ambrose figures look better because of it. I think the only Jazwares figure with it is the blood n guts.
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Post by CM Tusk on Oct 28, 2023 15:53:51 GMT -5
Maybe he's been taking acting classes during his suspension lol. Too bad acting isn’t genetic |
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Post by drifter on Oct 28, 2023 19:54:35 GMT -5
I just realized what’s been driving me crazy. Moxley needs to go back to taping his fists like a boxer. The wrist tape/no wrist tape looks bad. Dean Ambrose figures look better because of it. I think the only Jazwares figure with it is the blood n guts. I'm glad I'm not the only one that ever thought he looked odd when he stopped taping the fists. And honestly, having taped fists fits into the character of a guy just loves to beat people. |
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Post by finnbalor1 on Oct 29, 2023 7:17:50 GMT -5
Sounds like Deeb might be getting close to returning,about d@mn time
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Post by bWo on Oct 29, 2023 15:23:06 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks someone realized MJF was approaching Kenny's record last minute and this match was thrown together with no thinking because of it? What was going to happen if Omega won? He just stands there like a moron with no belt as they celebrate his new championship reign? Does Tony step in and take the belt from Jay White and give it to Omega? Does Omega demand Jay white give it to him? Does Omega just suddenly inherit MJF's feud with Bullet Club Gold and he has to wrestle Jay White to win back his own belt?
This match is fine if the World Title is in MJF's possession. It makes sense and it means more. Kenny getting in there and wrestling for the World Championship in name only was stupid. It made so little sense that I really think somebody just recently noticed the date was coming up and this was piss poorly planned.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 29, 2023 16:02:40 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks someone realized MJF was approaching Kenny's record last minute and this match was thrown together with no thinking because of it? What was going to happen if Omega won? He just stands there like a moron with no belt as they celebrate his new championship reign? Does Tony step in and take the belt from Jay White and give it to Omega? Does Omega demand Jay white give it to him? Does Omega just suddenly inherit MJF's feud with Bullet Club Gold and he has to wrestle Jay White to win back his own belt? This match is fine if the World Title is in MJF's possession. It makes sense and it means more. Kenny getting in there and wrestling for the World Championship in name only was stupid. It made so little sense that I really think somebody just recently noticed the date was coming up and this was piss poorly planned. Omega was never going to beat MJF. The storyline is fine. |
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Post by bWo on Oct 29, 2023 20:04:26 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks someone realized MJF was approaching Kenny's record last minute and this match was thrown together with no thinking because of it? What was going to happen if Omega won? He just stands there like a moron with no belt as they celebrate his new championship reign? Does Tony step in and take the belt from Jay White and give it to Omega? Does Omega demand Jay white give it to him? Does Omega just suddenly inherit MJF's feud with Bullet Club Gold and he has to wrestle Jay White to win back his own belt? This match is fine if the World Title is in MJF's possession. It makes sense and it means more. Kenny getting in there and wrestling for the World Championship in name only was stupid. It made so little sense that I really think somebody just recently noticed the date was coming up and this was piss poorly planned. Omega was never going to beat MJF. The storyline is fine. We know Kenny Omega was going to lose, but Kenny Omega ISN'T supposed to know he's was going to lose. Omega wouldn't have been cool going into a World Title match knowing that he wouldn't even get the belt if he won because someone else has currently stolen it. Tony Khan may be okay with theft within his company, but I don't think the EVP who is about to win the World Title is going to allow it, especially when it 100% involves him and what he thinks will be his belt. |
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 30, 2023 9:27:56 GMT -5
Omega was never going to beat MJF. The storyline is fine. We know Kenny Omega was going to lose, but Kenny Omega ISN'T supposed to know he's was going to lose. Omega wouldn't have been cool going into a World Title match knowing that he wouldn't even get the belt if he won because someone else has currently stolen it. Tony Khan may be okay with theft within his company, but I don't think the EVP who is about to win the World Title is going to allow it, especially when it 100% involves him and what he thinks will be his belt. I think you're thinking wayyyyy too much about it. Belts being stolen is a wrestling trope. It's happened before and it will happen again. |
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Post by bWo on Oct 30, 2023 15:08:19 GMT -5
We know Kenny Omega was going to lose, but Kenny Omega ISN'T supposed to know he's was going to lose. Omega wouldn't have been cool going into a World Title match knowing that he wouldn't even get the belt if he won because someone else has currently stolen it. Tony Khan may be okay with theft within his company, but I don't think the EVP who is about to win the World Title is going to allow it, especially when it 100% involves him and what he thinks will be his belt. I think you're thinking wayyyyy too much about it. Belts being stolen is a wrestling trope. It's happened before and it will happen again. Yes, and the champion feuds with the person who stole their belt to get it back. The don't generally go off in a different direction and have title matches with other people with the belt on the line except there actually is no belt. If Kenny thought Kenny was going to win what was Kenny going to do when he won? That never crossed anyone's mind. Here's a question. Why have the match at all? MJF feuding with Jay White essentially guaranteed he would beat Omega because clearly there was no planning for an Omega win. So why throw away a match between these 2 and give away the finish before it happens? MJF was going to pass Omega's longest title reign of ONE WHOLE ENTIRE YEAR............ They gave away the finish of a PPV main event quality match over a "record" that isn't worth shlt. Especially when the other channel has had a lot of "title reign" heavy content lately based on Gunther being IC champ for over 500 days and Roman Reigns being World Champion for over 17 years. Just have MJF mention in MJF fashion that he passed Kenny's "record." Have Omega cut a promo saying something along the lines of you have the record now but down the road that title and that title reign will be mine again. And then next time they meet we don't actually know what the finish is beforehand. But, somebody realized at the last minute that they were approaching that date and they tried to squeeze this match in for no reason. That makes more sense than them actually planning this nonsensical dribble. |
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 30, 2023 15:34:24 GMT -5
I think you're thinking wayyyyy too much about it. Belts being stolen is a wrestling trope. It's happened before and it will happen again. Yes, and the champion feuds with the person who stole their belt to get it back. The don't generally go off in a different direction and have title matches with other people with the belt on the line except there actually is no belt. If Kenny thought Kenny was going to win what was Kenny going to do when he won? That never crossed anyone's mind. Here's a question. Why have the match at all? MJF feuding with Jay White essentially guaranteed he would beat Omega because clearly there was no planning for an Omega win. So why throw away a match between these 2 and give away the finish before it happens? MJF was going to pass Omega's longest title reign of ONE WHOLE ENTIRE YEAR............ They gave away the finish of a PPV main event quality match over a "record" that isn't worth shlt. Especially when the other channel has had a lot of "title reign" heavy content lately based on Gunther being IC champ for over 500 days and Roman Reigns being World Champion for over 17 years. Just have MJF mention in MJF fashion that he passed Kenny's "record." Have Omega cut a promo saying something along the lines of you have the record now but down the road that title and that title reign will be mine again. And then next time they meet we don't actually know what the finish is beforehand. But, somebody realized at the last minute that they were approaching that date and they tried to squeeze this match in for no reason. That makes more sense than them actually planning this nonsensical dribble.
MJF is feuding with White. Weekly. They have a massive PPV match coming. MJF tried to steal his belt back at the top of the show. He's had shots to get his belt back via stipulations recently.
So why was Omega facing him? You know Omega said he wants his belt back. You know MJF was going to beat his record. Did you miss Wardlow saying he wants MJF too and they showed him this past week? Did you miss Joe saying he wants the belt and has been on air with MJF two weeks in a row? Did you miss Copeland saying he wants a shot? Did you miss Hobbs saying he wants a shot? It's two storylines going at the same time ... intertwined.
Does it really grind your gears THAT MUCH that it gave away the ending? Omega was never going to beat MJF even if MJF had the belt because of the upcoming Jay White match. We got to see a five star match for free. But you seem bothered that we had to sit through it instead of what the other place is doing which you obviously think is better so maybe AEW isn't for you? But by golly, maybe just maybe Chad Gable or Ciampa were going to win! Dude, come on.
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Post by bWo on Oct 30, 2023 19:17:22 GMT -5
Yes, and the champion feuds with the person who stole their belt to get it back. The don't generally go off in a different direction and have title matches with other people with the belt on the line except there actually is no belt. If Kenny thought Kenny was going to win what was Kenny going to do when he won? That never crossed anyone's mind. Here's a question. Why have the match at all? MJF feuding with Jay White essentially guaranteed he would beat Omega because clearly there was no planning for an Omega win. So why throw away a match between these 2 and give away the finish before it happens? MJF was going to pass Omega's longest title reign of ONE WHOLE ENTIRE YEAR............ They gave away the finish of a PPV main event quality match over a "record" that isn't worth shlt. Especially when the other channel has had a lot of "title reign" heavy content lately based on Gunther being IC champ for over 500 days and Roman Reigns being World Champion for over 17 years. Just have MJF mention in MJF fashion that he passed Kenny's "record." Have Omega cut a promo saying something along the lines of you have the record now but down the road that title and that title reign will be mine again. And then next time they meet we don't actually know what the finish is beforehand. But, somebody realized at the last minute that they were approaching that date and they tried to squeeze this match in for no reason. That makes more sense than them actually planning this nonsensical dribble.
MJF is feuding with White. Weekly. They have a massive PPV match coming. MJF tried to steal his belt back at the top of the show. He's had shots to get his belt back via stipulations recently.
The fact that you think it makes sense for there to be "stipulations" in place for MJF to be allowed possession of his belt is probably a good indication of how loose you're willing to be here.
So why was Omega facing him? You know Omega said he wants his belt back. You know MJF was going to beat his record.
How was Omega going to get his belt back when Jay White has it? You've glossed over that every time I've mentioned it. And a "record" title reign that wasn't even a year long in a company that's 4 years old. Big deal? Nope. They should have saved this match.
Did you miss Wardlow saying he wants MJF too and they showed him this past week?
Wardlow talking about wanting MJF and having a title match with him for a belt he won't even be in possession of if he wins are 2 different things.
Did you miss Joe saying he wants the belt and has been on air with MJF two weeks in a row?
And again, how stupid would a killer like Joe look if he had his World Title match with MJF, won, and then stood there celebrating his new title reign with no belt in his hand? Is that what you'd want to see? Would you rather just know MJF is going to win? Or would you rather they wrestled AFTER MJF gets his belt back from White?
Did you miss Copeland saying he wants a shot? Did you miss Hobbs saying he wants a shot? It's two storylines going at the same time ... intertwined.
Intertwining stories are fine. It doesn't make sense for all these people to be wanting a shot at MJF right now though when he doesn't have the belt. What are they going to win if they beat him? Why not just go steal the belt from Jay White instead? What does MJF have to do with anything? Why doesn't Hobbs just show up at the Bullet Club Gold's locker room with Takeshlta, Ospreay, Sammy, and Fletcher and take the belt? Are Juice, Jay or the Ass Boys gonna stop them?
Does it really grind your gears THAT MUCH that it gave away the ending? Omega was never going to beat MJF even if MJF had the belt because of the upcoming Jay White match.
The match itself between 2 of the company's best stars was bigger than the match being over a tiddlywink title reign "record." There was no build and no actual belt on the line. The "record" meant nothing and this match was over nothing. I'd rather have a match between Kenny Omega and MJF that means something instead of nothing.
We got to see a five star match for free. But you seem bothered that we had to sit through it
I loved the match. The circumstances surrounding it were pointless.
instead of what the other place is doing which you obviously think is better so maybe AEW isn't for you? But by golly, maybe just maybe Chad Gable or Ciampa were going to win! Dude, come on.
I didn't like something in AEW so now I like WWE better. Yeah that must be it.................. |
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 31, 2023 20:21:29 GMT -5
MJF is feuding with White. Weekly. They have a massive PPV match coming. MJF tried to steal his belt back at the top of the show. He's had shots to get his belt back via stipulations recently.
The fact that you think it makes sense for there to be "stipulations" in place for MJF to be allowed possession of his belt is probably a good indication of how loose you're willing to be here.
So why was Omega facing him? You know Omega said he wants his belt back. You know MJF was going to beat his record.
How was Omega going to get his belt back when Jay White has it? You've glossed over that every time I've mentioned it. And a "record" title reign that wasn't even a year long in a company that's 4 years old. Big deal? Nope. They should have saved this match.
Did you miss Wardlow saying he wants MJF too and they showed him this past week?
Wardlow talking about wanting MJF and having a title match with him for a belt he won't even be in possession of if he wins are 2 different things.
Did you miss Joe saying he wants the belt and has been on air with MJF two weeks in a row?
And again, how stupid would a killer like Joe look if he had his World Title match with MJF, won, and then stood there celebrating his new title reign with no belt in his hand? Is that what you'd want to see? Would you rather just know MJF is going to win? Or would you rather they wrestled AFTER MJF gets his belt back from White?
Did you miss Copeland saying he wants a shot? Did you miss Hobbs saying he wants a shot? It's two storylines going at the same time ... intertwined.
Intertwining stories are fine. It doesn't make sense for all these people to be wanting a shot at MJF right now though when he doesn't have the belt. What are they going to win if they beat him? Why not just go steal the belt from Jay White instead? What does MJF have to do with anything? Why doesn't Hobbs just show up at the Bullet Club Gold's locker room with Takeshlta, Ospreay, Sammy, and Fletcher and take the belt? Are Juice, Jay or the Ass Boys gonna stop them?
Does it really grind your gears THAT MUCH that it gave away the ending? Omega was never going to beat MJF even if MJF had the belt because of the upcoming Jay White match.
The match itself between 2 of the company's best stars was bigger than the match being over a tiddlywink title reign "record." There was no build and no actual belt on the line. The "record" meant nothing and this match was over nothing. I'd rather have a match between Kenny Omega and MJF that means something instead of nothing.
We got to see a five star match for free. But you seem bothered that we had to sit through it
I loved the match. The circumstances surrounding it were pointless.
instead of what the other place is doing which you obviously think is better so maybe AEW isn't for you? But by golly, maybe just maybe Chad Gable or Ciampa were going to win! Dude, come on.
I didn't like something in AEW so now I like WWE better. Yeah that must be it.................. - How loose I'm willing to be? Making sense with the stipulations? I mean ... we ARE talking about "rules" in a fake sport right? Do you criticize the teen for checking on Jason after he knocks Jason out in a horror movie? 
- Ok, I'll play along. In a fantasy world where Omega won ... he'd then go try and get it from White just like MJF is doing. Problem solved. White would say no.
- You can't fault AEW for not being around a long time like WWE has been. So it is indeed impressive what MJF has done. You're just comparing it to oranges while AEW is the apple.
- You are REALLY hung up on AEW writing Jay White with this belt aren't you? I can't even debate you because that's your answer for everything. Jay White has it. That's the storyline. You're going to have to accept it.
- Matches don't HAVE to be about something. That's where you and I differ on watching wrestling. I'm fine with a five star banger that's just that, a banger. I don't need emotion, a story, desire, consequences. Wrestling isn't real.
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Post by Papi Joker on Oct 31, 2023 20:41:06 GMT -5
as good as MJF is it is very weird that he is the champion and chasing the belt, also weird that 'authority' person won't step in and pull Jay White up for it and get it back, I am not sure why AEW insists on having this double world belt going on.
it would feel the same if WWE did it (i cannot remember if they did or not)
but yes the champion chasing his belt is weird!
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Post by Sizzle on Nov 1, 2023 10:04:54 GMT -5
All this talk about MJF trying to get his belt back when he isn't even the Real World Champion.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Nov 1, 2023 10:26:14 GMT -5
as good as MJF is it is very weird that he is the champion and chasing the belt, also weird that 'authority' person won't step in and pull Jay White up for it and get it back, I am not sure why AEW insists on having this double world belt going on. it would feel the same if WWE did it (i cannot remember if they did or not) but yes the champion chasing his belt is weird! The logical thing to do is just make a new belt since they do it all the time anyways. Tony has 14 titles across AEW and ROH. Before dude gets on me I understand making a belt seem important for storyline, but give me a break. Isn’t this the smart crowd that’s in on the joke? Why not just make a new belt and tell Jay white he can piss off. They just gonna steal every belt they make to spite MJF and Tony? It’s silly bad booking period. |
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