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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Jan 3, 2019 19:13:30 GMT -5
I know it's a sensitive topic- but, I'm doing a podcast on him tomorrow. I'm obviously going to discuss the tragedy- but, I want the podcast to be a celebration of Chris' career because he had one of the greatest careers in the business. No matter what happened over that tragic weekend- I'll always respect him as a talent because he was a workhorse who basically died for the industry. To conclude, what are your guys' opinion on Chris Benoit both personally & professionally?
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Post by The Brain on Jan 3, 2019 19:26:59 GMT -5
Professionally- One hell of a talent. So many classic matches
Personally...A lowlife and a coward
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 3, 2019 19:36:43 GMT -5
Professionally, one of the all time greats
Personally, didnt know him, didnt like what he did, not in a position nor my place to judge him.
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Post by Nev Jones on Jan 3, 2019 20:39:47 GMT -5
Professionally, one of the most gifted technical performers of all time.
Personally, I didn’t know him. Nobody did. It’s not for me to judge.
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Post by Planktung on Jan 3, 2019 20:43:56 GMT -5
him.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 3, 2019 21:32:55 GMT -5
Professionally, one of the all time greats Personally, didnt know him, didnt like what he did, not in a position nor my place to judge him. This. Plus, there has always been theories that Benoit and his family was murdered by somebody else.
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Post by PJ on Jan 3, 2019 22:41:06 GMT -5
One of the greatest in ring performers of his generation. Could go with anyone. As for what he did it’s not my place to judge but they did say his brain damage was that of an 85 year old alzheimer's patient. And knowing what that disease does to people I can very easily see that he could have not known what he was doing at the time of the act.
Now that said please don’t make me regret not locking this as soon as I saw it.
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Post by Bandalero on Jan 3, 2019 23:00:54 GMT -5
Professionally, one of the greatest technical wrestlers of all-time. One can't put together a top-10 list of pure scientific wrestlers in history and not have Benoit in the top 5. I absolutely enjoyed his matches. Daniel Bryan is an internet indy darling and is considered a great scientific wrestler, yet I find him to be a boring performer - not so with Benoit, all his moves were crisp and his matches took you to school.
Personally, I honestly don't think he was himself, research has shown his brain was far damaged. It's cruel what he did to his family, but he was no Chris Watts.
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Post by The Brain on Jan 3, 2019 23:21:15 GMT -5
We're definitely going to have different opinions with the personal side but I think majority of us can all agree how awesome he was in the ring.
Matter of fact the other night I was watching his match with Dean Malenko at Hog Wild 96. Great technical match between two pros.
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Post by Mox on Jan 4, 2019 0:30:43 GMT -5
Professionally, one of the greatest technical wrestlers of all-time. One can't put together a top-10 list of pure scientific wrestlers in history and not have Benoit in the top 5. I absolutely enjoyed his matches. Daniel Bryan is an internet indy darling and is considered a great scientific wrestler, yet I find him to be a boring performer - not so with Benoit, all his moves were crisp and his matches took you to school. Personally, I honestly don't think he was himself, research has shown his brain was far damaged. It's cruel what he did to his family, but he was no Chris Watts. Yeah he had serious brain damage. Just tragic.
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Post by K5 on Jan 4, 2019 1:01:21 GMT -5
one of my favourites growing up, a workhorse, who’s story ends with inexplicable levels of needless tragedy
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Post by nibs92 on Jan 4, 2019 2:21:38 GMT -5
A fabulous technician in the ring, he left it in there every single night, no question. Unfortunately, he didn’t seem to have the personality to elevate him into the top echelon, which always made him a man to beat, not THE man to beat. Still a joy to watch.
Brain damage and mental illness are funny things. A shame for Nancy and Daniel, but we clearly weren’t dealing with a sound mind that weekend. Good luck with the podcast man. Not sure if you’re allowed to post links, but if you could let me know how to access it, I’d love to hear it.
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Post by crashholly2002 on Jan 4, 2019 7:26:51 GMT -5
One of the greatest in ring performers of his generation. Could go with anyone. As for what he did it’s not my place to judge but they did say his brain damage was that of an 85 year old alzheimer's patient. And knowing what that disease does to people I can very easily see that he could have not known what he was doing at the time of the act. Now that said please don’t make me regret not locking this as soon as I saw it. lets not forget that at the end of his last match on ECW, he was seriously grasping his chest like he was having heart palpitations:
as for my opinion on him, professionally, he was one of the all time greats
personally, it's hard to tell considering that the massive head traumas he suffered throughout his wrestling careers took their immense toll on him
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Jan 4, 2019 8:38:54 GMT -5
Professionally - I think he's one of the greatest of all time. Very few people could match him in the ring, on top of this he had a great look, great intensity and a theme perfect for him. Even though he spent the majority of his WWE career as a mid-card guy, he always felt like one of the top guys on whatever brand he was on, especially with commentary praising him to the moon and back. Again, even though he was a mid-card guy in WWE, he consistently got huge pops every time he appeared. At WrestleMania 23, when he was in one of the less hyped matches on the show, he got one of the top 3 pops of the night... Just goes to show how much people loved and respected him. I have no doubt after he retired, he would have trained new talent and even open his own school. He would probably be head trainer at the PC today.
Personally - From everything i've read and heard about him, he seemed like a genuinely nice person, someone who was quiet/shy, loved his profession and his family. But i think the deciding factor in his life was Eddie's death, that figuratively killed him as he was never the same after it. So his mental state paired with the years and years of Brain damage was a horrible mix.
I'm not going to say Benoit is a piece of sh*t or anything like that, when certain elements get mixed, they can cause catastrophic things. So personally, i think he was a nice person who in the RIGHT state of mind, would NEVER EVER consider harming his family, himself or the business. Losing one of the closest people in his life, causing him to live with depression for almost 2 years, coupled with the Brain damage he suffered, his mentality would have been torture for him, where one little thing would make him snap.
A part of me still hopes that one day, evidence comes to light that someone killed him and his family and his name is cleared (Though the damage is too deep to repair) But for now with what we know, that's what i think of him.
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Jan 4, 2019 11:31:58 GMT -5
I think he would've made a GREAT trainer in NXT for the young guys. I think Benoit was one of the smartest (from a wrestling perspective). Too bad he never had a main-event feud with the Undertaker during their days on Smackdown. I think the matches would've been epic.
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Post by Gorilla on Jan 4, 2019 13:47:10 GMT -5
Professionally - I think he's one of the greatest of all time. Very few people could match him in the ring, on top of this he had a great look, great intensity and a theme perfect for him. Even though he spent the majority of his WWE career as a mid-card guy, he always felt like one of the top guys on whatever brand he was on, especially with commentary praising him to the moon and back. Again, even though he was a mid-card guy in WWE, he consistently got huge pops every time he appeared. At WrestleMania 23, when he was in one of the less hyped matches on the show, he got one of the top 3 pops of the night... Just goes to show how much people loved and respected him. I have no doubt after he retired, he would have trained new talent and even open his own school. He would probably be head trainer at the PC today. Personally - From everything i've read and heard about him, he seemed like a genuinely nice person, someone who was quiet/shy, loved his profession and his family. But i think the deciding factor in his life was Eddie's death, that figuratively killed him as he was never the same after it. So his mental state paired with the years and years of Brain damage was a horrible mix. I'm not going to say Benoit is a piece of sh*t or anything like that, when certain elements get mixed, they can cause catastrophic things. So personally, i think he was a nice person who in the RIGHT state of mind, would NEVER EVER consider harming his family, himself or the business. Losing one of the closest people in his life, causing him to live with depression for almost 2 years, coupled with the Brain damage he suffered, his mentality would have been torture for him, where one little thing would make him snap. A part of me still hopes that one day, evidence comes to light that someone killed him and his family and his name is cleared (Though the damage is too deep to repair) But for now with what we know, that's what i think of him. I completely agree with you. I hate seeing people say he was a POS for what he did. Honestly, Benoit may not have really been Benoit anymore. I had a concussion so bad when I was 17 that I lost 6 months of my life. I became a lot more aggressive, and had some made up memories that didn't exist. I guess your brain tries to fill in the blanks as best it can. It's terrible that his wife and child had to die, they are innocent victims, but it's crazy to say what he did was premeditated. It did not fit in with his personality at all.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jan 4, 2019 16:19:00 GMT -5
To me, and I emphasize TO ME, Benoit was one of the most boring wrestlers out there. Can't stand watching his matches, can't stand his interviews, don't care about anything he did in the wrestling ring. I'm more of a flashy guy so the things he did just didn't interest me. NOW with that being said, not commending, not glorifying, not making light of it, but, I found him more interesting AFTER finding out what he did. How someone can just snap like that and commit some of the worse crimes a person can.
I don't believe that he and his family were murdered, that's asinine, I do believe he was messed up from the wear and damage on his body and brain and the drugs he was putting in his system. He snapped and had to cover up what he did and the only thing to do was to do it to himself.
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 9, 2019 6:57:09 GMT -5
Professionally: one of the absolute all time greats.....I LOVE RR03 vs Angle..I LOVE his RR04 win....and the 2 triple threats with HBK & HHH are beyond compare.....and that's just to name a few. I still enjoy going back looking at his career highlights.
Personally: Not mine or anyone's business. His brain was like a blackcurrant when they autopsied him. He had clearly undergone a massive personality shift because yknow... his brain was compared to a piece of coal by MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Jan 11, 2019 11:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by PJ on Jan 11, 2019 15:19:45 GMT -5
I do not hold Benoit responsible for his actions. He was virtually braindead at the time of it happening. Not to get all tinfoil hat conspiracy here But I don't buy what is believed to be the truth. Nobody can actually believe that Sullivan or someone else did it. Benoit clearly did it because his brain was as badly damaged as it was and wasn’t in his right mind. As for why he killed him self afterwards I personally believe he had a moment of clarity and realized what he did and couldn’t live with the grief.
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