Arik Cannon
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Post by Arik Cannon on Jan 17, 2019 19:10:40 GMT -5
I’m seeing him March 6th at a comedy show. Which is funny cuz I believe it’s the same night Smackdown is in town as well
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jan 17, 2019 19:26:38 GMT -5
There's going to be no-one left. It says a lot for the company when half the roster wants to  off elsewhere. Ah well at least they don't need to bother releasing people, their doing it for them. Yea it really is everyone.....revival, Gran Metalik, Mike Kanellis, and maybe possible Dolph and Tye Dillinger....a real murderers row there. It’s all just guys who think they are better than what they are doing. It’s guys who think they can go elsewhere and do better and honestly the only guys on that list who maybe could do better are Revival, and honestly Revival aren’t even that bad off, the tag scene on Raw is just rough. If they were on smackdown they would be mixing it up with the bar, usos, and new day and be just fine. Like like Bennet but he has complained about his spot on the card everywhere he has been...maybe it’s him. |
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Jan 17, 2019 19:31:09 GMT -5
There's going to be no-one left. It says a lot for the company when half the roster wants to off elsewhere. Ah well at least they don't need to bother releasing people, their doing it for them. Hearsay and bullcrapisn’t an indicator of anything other then somebody’s ability to look at whose not being used and write a “report” about them wanting to bounce. |
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jan 17, 2019 19:39:58 GMT -5
With that Maria has taken to social media to dispute the reports that she and Mike asked for their releases and cemented the fact that the WWE has been 100% supportive of them and Mike’s road to recovery and battle. It was just another case of someone starting a rumor about some names that may be disgruntled.
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Post by FLUX on Jan 17, 2019 19:40:44 GMT -5
"Dolph Ziggler leaving WWE"
"Rusev requested his release"
"Andrade unhappy in WWE"
"Revival unhappy in WWE"
"Revival request release"
"Mike/Maria Kanellis unhappy, request release"
How many more of these bullcrap"scoops" can we get this week? Maybe next Becky Lynch or John Cena will "request their release."
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Jan 17, 2019 19:56:06 GMT -5
Just read a big update regarding the recent news on rumoured WWE departures.
Cageside Seats have reported that WWE is supposedly set to leave WWE when its contract expires in April. Reports are that WWE is unhappy with its current position within the company, and once its contract expires, it's set to part ways with WWE. With companies like New Japan Pro Wrestling on top of the world right now, and All Elite Wrestling on the rise, could we see WWE make the jump to one of these companies? Could they strike a deal with other companies such as IMPACT Wrestling, Ring of Honor, Dragon Gate among others?
Only time will tell, as for now though, it's allegedly supposedly reportedly rumoured that WWE's plans for WWE at WrestleMania 35 are up in the air right now, WWE was scheduled for a marquee match at the Show of Shows but with their current status within the company, plans may be changing as the company will go in a different direction which doesn't involve WWE.
Is this the end of WWE in WWE?
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hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Jan 17, 2019 19:57:46 GMT -5
Good for him. Hopefully he wherever he goes he gets treated like like he should have in WWE.
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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on Jan 17, 2019 22:29:05 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler just opened a account with pro wrestling tees and now has merchandise for sale.
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voicesinmyhead
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 18, 2019 0:07:39 GMT -5
Good for him. Hopefully he wherever he goes he gets treated like like he should have in WWE. Yeah... being a former heavyweight champion, US champion, Intercontinental champion, and tag team champion is not enough! |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Jan 18, 2019 4:24:55 GMT -5
Good for him. Hopefully he wherever he goes he gets treated like like he should have in WWE. Yeah... being a former heavyweight champion, US champion, Intercontinental champion, and tag team champion is not enough! When was the last time he won a match |
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Post by LK3 on Jan 18, 2019 4:32:46 GMT -5
Yeah... being a former heavyweight champion, US champion, Intercontinental champion, and tag team champion is not enough! When was the last time he won a match December 3rd |
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Post by Vamp55 on Jan 18, 2019 5:04:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jan 18, 2019 8:34:42 GMT -5
I feel like all this talk of takeoffs and landings has spiraled into sort of a textbook case of 'the grass is always greener'. The IWC has developed this presumption, in spite of evidence to the contrary, that every talent down the card is capable of the career renaissance exhibited by Cody Rhodes following his departure. I enjoy most everyone whose name is being tossed around in all of this, but the reality remains that for every Cody Rhodes that departs the machine and turns goat piss into gasoline, you're going to have six or more Aaron Stevens stories, where the perceived value on message boards and Reddit just fizzles out once these guys are left to their own defenses. That's not to say that every talent whose name is swirling around the rumor drain lacks the motivation and drive to get out there and make their name bigger than the WWE ever was willing to, but capturing the adoration of a minority segment of the audience is not the baseline qualifier for success beyond the palace walls.
All of this is really to say that this perception that the WWE is in grave danger, assuming every last 'x has requested their release' report is 100% accurate and that 100% of the solved for x variables all have their sights set on the elephant in the room (AEW) is vastly overstated. Until the other side is actively putting out a product to rival and compete with WWE, there's still only one top dog in the domestic market.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Jan 18, 2019 9:14:26 GMT -5
His stand up isn’t anything close to funny.
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Post by theicwguy on Jan 18, 2019 9:25:01 GMT -5
There's going to be no-one left. It says a lot for the company when half the roster wants to off elsewhere. Ah well at least they don't need to bother releasing people, their doing it for them. Hearsay and bullcrap isn’t an indicator of anything other then somebody’s ability to look at whose not being used and write a “report” about them wanting to bounce. Which is usually quite often. |
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havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 18, 2019 9:26:53 GMT -5
There's going to be no-one left. It says a lot for the company when half the roster wants to off elsewhere. Ah well at least they don't need to bother releasing people, their doing it for them. I don't know how WWE is able to put on 2 main shows and a monthly PPV with just 8 people. ... What? You said half the roster wants to quit, and there's only reports of 4... Sometimes hyperbole is fine, but give it a break people. |
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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 18, 2019 9:28:00 GMT -5
There's going to be no-one left. It says a lot for the company when half the roster wants to off elsewhere. Ah well at least they don't need to bother releasing people, their doing it for them. Yea it really is everyone.....revival, Gran Metalik, Mike Kanellis, and maybe possible Dolph and Tye Dillinger....a real murderers row there. It’s all just guys who think they are better than what they are doing. It’s guys who think they can go elsewhere and do better and honestly the only guys on that list who maybe could do better are Revival, and honestly Revival aren’t even that bad off, the tag scene on Raw is just rough. If they were on smackdown they would be mixing it up with the bar, usos, and new day and be just fine. Like like Bennet but he has complained about his spot on the card everywhere he has been...maybe it’s him. For every Cody Rhodes that is a breakout star, there's a Aron Rex. If the IWC had it its way, everyone would be main eventing and not losing. |
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havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 18, 2019 9:33:14 GMT -5
I feel like all this talk of takeoffs and landings has spiraled into sort of a textbook case of 'the grass is always greener'. The IWC has developed this presumption, in spite of evidence to the contrary, that every talent down the card is capable of the career renaissance exhibited by Cody Rhodes following his departure. I enjoy most everyone whose name is being tossed around in all of this, but the reality remains that for every Cody Rhodes that departs the machine and turns goat piss into gasoline, you're going to have six or more Aaron Stevens stories, where the perceived value on message boards and Reddit just fizzles out once these guys are left to their own defenses. That's not to say that every talent whose name is swirling around the rumor drain lacks the motivation and drive to get out there and make their name bigger than the WWE ever was willing to, but capturing the adoration of a minority segment of the audience is not the baseline qualifier for success beyond the palace walls. All of this is really to say that this perception that the WWE is in grave danger, assuming every last 'x has requested their release' report is 100% accurate and that 100% of the solved for x variables all have their sights set on the elephant in the room (AEW) is vastly overstated. Until the other side is actively putting out a product to rival and compete with WWE, there's still only one top dog in the domestic market. It's the vocal minority. I think it's fun to chant 10 with Tye Dillinger, but you cannot tell me he's main event level material. He's good, but in the old days, he'd be a jobber to the stars...oh wait he still is. I have to wonder if the IWC was around, would they have been vocal about the misuse of Barry Horowitz and Tom Brandi? Would they be demanding they jump ship to WCW (they did, and they were still jobbers)? Oh and I actively look forward to the day when AEW operates, a WWE competitor jumps ship, and they put the World Title on him like TNA used to do. Can't wait to see if they get crapped on the way TNA did. They were doing what the IWC wanted, and they were finding new ways to complain. They complained about lack of pushes. They complained about pushed too soon. They complained about name changes. Sorry but if you can understand why Robert Downey Jr isn't Iron Man in every film he's in or why Spiderman couldn't be in Avengers until Marvel did a deal with Sony, you can understand why Team 3d can't be called the Dudleyz anywhere else. (Wait they still do complain about all this even when they get what theyw ant). Bryan is right. Fans are fickle. |
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Post by theicwguy on Jan 18, 2019 9:40:43 GMT -5
There's going to be no-one left. It says a lot for the company when half the roster wants to off elsewhere. Ah well at least they don't need to bother releasing people, their doing it for them. I don't know how WWE is able to put on 2 main shows and a monthly PPV with just 8 people. ... What? You said half the roster wants to quit, and there's only reports of 4... Sometimes hyperbole is fine, but give it a break people. Considering these are ALL just rumours, half the roster could quite easily be leaving if someone cares to speculate it. If I was to say AJ Styles wants to go to AEW because he's not champ anymore doesn't mean he actually does. I could speculate that Seth and Dean, Braun and Finn all wanted to go until I had named half the roster whatever that number may be. So yeah hyperbole>litotes which oddly sounds like an STI. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jan 18, 2019 10:07:42 GMT -5
I feel like all this talk of takeoffs and landings has spiraled into sort of a textbook case of 'the grass is always greener'. The IWC has developed this presumption, in spite of evidence to the contrary, that every talent down the card is capable of the career renaissance exhibited by Cody Rhodes following his departure. I enjoy most everyone whose name is being tossed around in all of this, but the reality remains that for every Cody Rhodes that departs the machine and turns goat piss into gasoline, you're going to have six or more Aaron Stevens stories, where the perceived value on message boards and Reddit just fizzles out once these guys are left to their own defenses. That's not to say that every talent whose name is swirling around the rumor drain lacks the motivation and drive to get out there and make their name bigger than the WWE ever was willing to, but capturing the adoration of a minority segment of the audience is not the baseline qualifier for success beyond the palace walls. All of this is really to say that this perception that the WWE is in grave danger, assuming every last 'x has requested their release' report is 100% accurate and that 100% of the solved for x variables all have their sights set on the elephant in the room (AEW) is vastly overstated. Until the other side is actively putting out a product to rival and compete with WWE, there's still only one top dog in the domestic market. It's the vocal minority. I think it's fun to chant 10 with Tye Dillinger, but you cannot tell me he's main event level material. He's good, but in the old days, he'd be a jobber to the stars...oh wait he still is. I have to wonder if the IWC was around, would they have been vocal about the misuse of Barry Horowitz and Tom Brandi? Would they be demanding they jump ship to WCW (they did, and they were still jobbers)? Oh and I actively look forward to the day when AEW operates, a WWE competitor jumps ship, and they put the World Title on him like TNA used to do. Can't wait to see if they get crapped on the way TNA did. They were doing what the IWC wanted, and they were finding new ways to complain. They complained about lack of pushes. They complained about pushed too soon. They complained about name changes. Sorry but if you can understand why Robert Downey Jr isn't Iron Man in every film he's in or why Spiderman couldn't be in Avengers until Marvel did a deal with Sony, you can understand why Team 3d can't be called the Dudleyz anywhere else. (Wait they still do complain about all this even when they get what theyw ant). Bryan is right. Fans are fickle. This right here, I think, sort of illustrates the split between perception and reality. It's sort of the same argument that I make nearly every time a successful tag unit is split to try their hands at singles competition. Professional wrestling, in its best presentation, is a variety show. It's something of a circus mentality - and that's okay. Somewhere along the way, someone - I don't know if it's the company or the fans - decided that over needed to be complimented with a shot in the main event circle. That's great if it works, but how many Big Cass type situations are going to come along to compliment the odd Jeff Hardy success story? There's nothing wrong with one's ultimate legacy being that of a legendary tag team, or a legendary undercard talent, or even a legendary jobber. All of these little pieces fit together to complete the puzzle, and when some are left out for the perceived benefit of the "bigger, better", the product suffers. I know that everyone that comes into the system is going to dream of rising as high as humanly possible. That's human nature. To a point, if you don't want to headline WrestleMania, go home. That said, not everyone gets to. That's life. I think that there's just as much value in the legacy of The Road Warriors as there is in that of Randy Savage, because each party had their own share of making the product what it ultimately was. Each was the upper echelon of the role their respectively played. If I were to be so bold - Tye Dillinger is never going to headline WrestleMania or hold the World title. That doesn't mean he can't be slotted into a role that suits his talents and the reaction he garners from the crowd. |
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I dont know good luck 
