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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on Jan 21, 2019 8:45:09 GMT -5
Ziggler has had a pretty good run all things considered. Not a lot of stars get a 12 year+ run with the WWE especially during the era which he started in. Back then you were lucky to get 3 years as roster turnover was that high at one point. He's won several titles so I wouldn't call his career a travesty or anything. Always mid card to upper mid card , that’s a good spot.
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Post by master of the WORLD! on Jan 21, 2019 10:00:52 GMT -5
Ziggler has had a pretty good run all things considered. Not a lot of stars get a 12 year+ run with the WWE especially during the era which he started in. Back then you were lucky to get 3 years as roster turnover was that high at one point. He's won several titles so I wouldn't call his career a travesty or anything. Always mid card to upper mid card , that’s a good spot. yeah not every guy is going to be a main eventer and stay at the top their whole career. if dolph retired tomorrow he has nothing to be ashamed of. he accomplished a lot in his Career
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Jan 21, 2019 13:34:19 GMT -5
Ziggler has had a pretty good run all things considered. Not a lot of stars get a 12 year+ run with the WWE especially during the era which he started in. Back then you were lucky to get 3 years as roster turnover was that high at one point. He's won several titles so I wouldn't call his career a travesty or anything. Always mid card to upper mid card , that’s a good spot. I've no doubt in about 10-15 years down the line, he'll get a spot in the WWE Hall of Fame for his contributions.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 21, 2019 14:08:43 GMT -5
My problem with Dolph Ziggler, is that he believes he deserves more than what he gets in the WWE.
The dude has had a great career in the WWE, held more title belts than others have, and will no doubt be a real HOF worthy entree. He just feels he deserves that main event spot constantly, when in all honestly, he doesn't.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 21, 2019 14:49:42 GMT -5
I like Ziggler and I think he's had a great career. But let's be honest...
He's cut the same promo for ten years now. He's worse than Cena at this point. And when the company asked him to be a little less "HBK-ish", he turned it on more. Sometimes he seems to phone it in. And when they FINALLY turned him heel to feud with Ambrose over the WWE title, I thought the whole feud flopped. Both guys suffered. It wasn't till they aligned him with McIntyre did I feel like he was fully invested.
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Post by LingardRashfordMartial on Jan 21, 2019 15:43:40 GMT -5
Looks like he is off, long overdue. He's been stale for a while.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 21, 2019 23:53:09 GMT -5
Now they got a story out there that Andrade is unhappy and wants to leave and supposedly helped Rush and Dragon Lee decide to sign with Ring of Honor. Someone is seriously planting this crap out there. There is just no way all of this stuff is true. Lol,common sense will tell people that if they were really his friends, they wouldn't tell other people who know these websites that he said that, cause that'll f*** Andrade in the end. Like when Dolph Ziggler posted on Twitter "Big if true", not realizing he was poking fun at the Buzzfeed article with Trump telling his lawyer to lie to Congress, which hes on Fox News all the time talking politics. The websites run to post that to say that he might leave for AEW. Honestly, in the long run, these websites are going to kill AEWs chances at a first impression if they keep these stories running, cause Im already seeing people outside of here poking fun at who signs with AEW.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 22, 2019 0:03:46 GMT -5
He did this last year too, and then came out at number 30 in the Rumble
I bet any money he will be a 'surprise' entrant in the Rumble, after leading us all on for weeks that he was leaving on January 31st.
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Post by blissfan4life on Jan 22, 2019 11:54:31 GMT -5
I wish he really would, sick of his HBK Cosplaying ass.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 22, 2019 13:21:47 GMT -5
I like Ziggler and I think he's had a great career. But let's be honest... He's cut the same promo for ten years now. He's worse than Cena at this point. And when the company asked him to be a little less "HBK-ish", he turned it on more. Sometimes he seems to phone it in. And when they FINALLY turned him heel to feud with Ambrose over the WWE title, I thought the whole feud flopped. Both guys suffered. It wasn't till they aligned him with McIntyre did I feel like he was fully invested. He didn’t turn heel to feud with Ambrose, did he? I thought that was a babyface match. Then Ziggler went from that to the great feud with Miz. I don’t even remember when or how he turned heel. Was Bobby Roode involved?
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Jan 22, 2019 13:30:45 GMT -5
I like Ziggler and I think he's had a great career. But let's be honest... He's cut the same promo for ten years now. He's worse than Cena at this point. And when the company asked him to be a little less "HBK-ish", he turned it on more. Sometimes he seems to phone it in. And when they FINALLY turned him heel to feud with Ambrose over the WWE title, I thought the whole feud flopped. Both guys suffered. It wasn't till they aligned him with McIntyre did I feel like he was fully invested. He didn’t turn heel to feud with Ambrose, did he? I thought that was a babyface match. Then Ziggler went from that to the great feud with Miz. I don’t even remember when or how he turned heel. Was Bobby Roode involved? Think he was heel before he won the US Title in a triple threat involving Roode and Corbin. That's when he laid down the title and took a hiatus before coming back in last year's Rumble. Looking it up, he faced Roode at HIAC 2017 before the Triple Threat. So it was around that time. EDIT: Take that back. At Elimination Chamber 2017 he was heel when he faced Kalisto and Apollo in a Handicap Match. He lost to Miz in a Ladder Match at TLC the previous December, so he turned around the first of 2017.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 22, 2019 16:34:27 GMT -5
I like Ziggler and I think he's had a great career. But let's be honest... He's cut the same promo for ten years now. He's worse than Cena at this point. And when the company asked him to be a little less "HBK-ish", he turned it on more. Sometimes he seems to phone it in. And when they FINALLY turned him heel to feud with Ambrose over the WWE title, I thought the whole feud flopped. Both guys suffered. It wasn't till they aligned him with McIntyre did I feel like he was fully invested. He didn’t turn heel to feud with Ambrose, did he? I thought that was a babyface match. Then Ziggler went from that to the great feud with Miz. I don’t even remember when or how he turned heel. Was Bobby Roode involved? Who knows anymore?
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jan 22, 2019 19:23:52 GMT -5
I like Ziggler and I think he's had a great career. But let's be honest... He's cut the same promo for ten years now. He's worse than Cena at this point. And when the company asked him to be a little less "HBK-ish", he turned it on more. Sometimes he seems to phone it in. And when they FINALLY turned him heel to feud with Ambrose over the WWE title, I thought the whole feud flopped. Both guys suffered. It wasn't till they aligned him with McIntyre did I feel like he was fully invested. Remember when he’d cut promos about being the best in ring performer in WWE despite barely winning any matches like we were supposed to care or take him seriously? It was like bragging about receiving a participation award lol. I used to be one of his biggest fans but my god he’s been awful since switching from trunks to tights.
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Jan 22, 2019 19:43:53 GMT -5
Welp, I somehow found WhatCulture’s next video thumbnail. Did Dolph have his hair digitally extended for that photo lol
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jan 22, 2019 20:56:05 GMT -5
marino13 can you just sticky this thread since the issue comes up like every three weeks?
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Post by Patriot174 on Jan 22, 2019 21:26:46 GMT -5
*tries to come up with a clever name for an official "Who's Leaving to go Somewhere" thread: Dolph is a great wrestler and has accomplished a great deal during his time with the WWE; more than I ever would have thought he would following his stints as a caddie and male cheerleader. After his feud with The Miz a couple of years back, he's been meh for me so, maybe, a change in scenery (or employers) could be best for him.
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Post by PJ on Jan 23, 2019 4:57:54 GMT -5
Ziggler has had a pretty good run all things considered. Not a lot of stars get a 12 year+ run with the WWE especially during the era which he started in. Back then you were lucky to get 3 years as roster turnover was that high at one point. He's won several titles so I wouldn't call his career a travesty or anything. Always mid card to upper mid card , that’s a good spot. He got to get paid to travel the world doing something he loves...yeah that’s a real good spot.
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 23, 2019 11:19:49 GMT -5
Always mid card to upper mid card , that’s a good spot. He got to get paid to travel the world doing something he loves...yeah that’s a real good spot. Agreed. I've always enjoyed your comments and points over the years. Do I think Ziggler should have had at least one singles match at WrestleMania? Yes. Do I think he should have held the WWE championship? Yes. With guys like Miz, Sheamus, Alberto Del Rio, Bray Wyatt, Dean Ambrose, and Jinder Mahal all winning the WWE Championship, I think it would be justifiable to give Ziggler a run with the title, if only for a few months. It wouldn't have hurt the company, and it would have elevated Ziggler and everyone he worked with after. I think if it weren't for Punk's long reign, it would have been great to see Punk and Ziggler trade the titles a few times, as that was when they were main eventing together at house shows and on PPV. I remember thinking how Ziggler and Cena's ladder match could have been for the WWE championship and if Ziggler beat him for it similarly to how Edge used to outsmart Cena back in the day. Ahh, well I guess Ziggler won't ever hold the title, and if he does it will be all too late. I've always been a big fan of his, but I feel like he has nothing more to work toward if all he will get is more of the same.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Jan 27, 2019 14:06:25 GMT -5
Chris Van Vliet caught up with former WWE World Heavyweight Champion Dolph Ziggler to talk about a wide range of topics including his status with the WWE, which is where he stated that although he’s still under contract with the WWE, he’s going on hiatus and will not be competing at the Royal Rumble PPV event.
His WWE status:
”Technically, I’m still under contract but I am not scheduled to be at the Royal Rumble tomorrow. I can’t really answer that. I don’t want to make some, like, fake thing or some sly thing. For now, I’m on a hiatus with WWE. It took me like 10 years to get a weekend off and this is it. We’ll see where it goes. It’s very interesting. There’s a handshake, a different thing than what’s on paper. I’ve given everything and we’ll see. If there’s more for me to give, I’ll be happy to be a part of it. If WWE wanted to keep me around, it would be to be in the ring, for now. Producing I could see happening 10 years down the line but I don’t know why I wouldn’t be doing some other stuff first. … Doing that full time, and being in the best shape of my life, I wouldn’t be able to do it, I don’t think. … One day down the line that could be something but I am very much not interested in that.”
On AEW:
“That is fantastic news. Everybody seems like fans at heart that are coming up with everything going into that company. I don’t know too much about it but everything so far shows that they are trying to give another option for fans who love wrestling, people who want something new. Even if you somehow didn’t like them, or didn’t like the idea, or are pro WWE, the fact that this is happening and may create a little back and forth, or some people to step up their game, or some people to have a second place to go when it’s not the end all, be all, that is so much good for competition and business and all the Superstars together already that if that becomes successful, and they’re going back and forth, then it’s good for everybody, the fans and the wrestlers. I’m saying it in a regular way but this is an awesome thing to happen, and it can only go up and be more positive from here.”
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Post by crashholly2002 on Jan 28, 2019 4:44:59 GMT -5
Welp, I somehow found WhatCulture’s next video thumbnail. jesus christ, i'm disgusted and impressed in how closely accurate this is for their channel
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