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Post by hitmancmedge on Jan 29, 2019 7:33:41 GMT -5
Can I just say Becky's "The Man" gimmick has really made her unattractive the way she acts and the way she now walks it's just cringe worthy. Thanks for the info, I think I speak for everyone here when I say we really were wondering how you felt about Becky and still being attractive? We weren’t sure how to feel ourselves but now you have set us straight. Now if you can decide how attractive Elias is now that he is a heel again that would really help us out of a pickle.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 29, 2019 9:19:04 GMT -5
Can I just say Becky's "The Man" gimmick has really made her unattractive the way she acts and the way she now walks it's just cringe worthy. Thanks for the info, I think I speak for everyone here when I say we really were wondering how you felt about Becky and still being attractive? We weren’t sure how to feel ourselves but now you have set us straight. Now if you can decide how attractive Elias is now that he is a heel again that would really help us out of a pickle. Good. Now he can focus on her lass kicking ability rather than the fact that she's ridiculously good looking. I wonder if there are men and women out there who only concern themselves with how the wrestlers look? If so, why are you even watching wrestling? There's literally magazines, stock photos/photo shoots. You don't need to hear Renee Young talk. You don't need to watch Seth Rollins hit the curb stomp. If your reason for watching wrestling is aesthetics, there are plenty of other mediums to use to see it instead of sitting through 2-,3-, and even 7-hour shows.
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Post by Bandalero on Jan 29, 2019 9:23:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, I think I speak for everyone here when I say we really were wondering how you felt about Becky and still being attractive? We weren’t sure how to feel ourselves but now you have set us straight. Now if you can decide how attractive Elias is now that he is a heel again that would really help us out of a pickle. Good. Now he can focus on her lass kicking ability rather than the fact that she's ridiculously good looking. I wonder if there are men and women out there who only concern themselves with how the wrestlers look? If so, why are you even watching wrestling? There's literally magazines, stock photos/photo shoots. You don't need to hear Renee Young talk. You don't need to watch Seth Rollins hit the curb stomp. If your reason for watching wrestling is aesthetics, there are plenty of other mediums to use to see it instead of sitting through 2-,3-, and even 7-hour shows. B.S. Wrestling isn’t just about skill in the ring. It’s called sports entertainment for a reason. Wrestlers need to have a whole package of skill and looks otherwise why would we buy their merchandise? Asuka and Becky are amazingly hot AND can wrestle. I don’t see a Tamina fan club around here, wonder why.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 29, 2019 9:29:12 GMT -5
Good. Now he can focus on her lass kicking ability rather than the fact that she's ridiculously good looking. I wonder if there are men and women out there who only concern themselves with how the wrestlers look? If so, why are you even watching wrestling? There's literally magazines, stock photos/photo shoots. You don't need to hear Renee Young talk. You don't need to watch Seth Rollins hit the curb stomp. If your reason for watching wrestling is aesthetics, there are plenty of other mediums to use to see it instead of sitting through 2-,3-, and even 7-hour shows. B.S. Wrestling isn’t just about skill in the ring. It’s called sports entertainment for a reason. Wrestlers need to have a whole package of skill and looks otherwise why would we buy their merchandise? Asuka and Becky are amazingly hot AND can wrestle. I don’t see a Tamina fan club around here, wonder why. You can look good and be on tv, but if you're watching just because she's hot, why are you bothering to sit through hours of tv? If someone is no longer attractive to you, are you going to stop watching them? If so, why are you wasting your time watching when there are other ways to do it? You're telling me you'd sit through hours of unentertaining tv just for 15 minutes of watching someone you find attractive in the ring? That's a weird waste of time, but I guess it's your prerogative. And, there's no Tamina fan club for 2 reasons: 1. She has this permanent look on her face like she was told her father murdered someone. 2. Her wrestling ability is extremely questionable.
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Post by Bandalero on Jan 29, 2019 9:32:20 GMT -5
B.S. Wrestling isn’t just about skill in the ring. It’s called sports entertainment for a reason. Wrestlers need to have a whole package of skill and looks otherwise why would we buy their merchandise? Asuka and Becky are amazingly hot AND can wrestle. I don’t see a Tamina fan club around here, wonder why. You can look good and be on tv, but if you're watching just because she's hot, why are you bothering to sit through hours of tv? If someone is no longer attractive to you, are you going to stop watching them? If so, why are you wasting your time watching when there are other ways to do it? You're telling me you'd sit through hours of unentertaining tv just for 15 minutes of watching someone you find attractive in the ring? That's a weird waste of time, but I guess it's your prerogative. And, there's no Tamina fan club for 2 reasons: 1. She has this permanent look on her face like she was told her father murdered someone. 2. Her wrestling ability is extremely questionable. Not sure what year you are from but people have PVR nowadays. A tap of the fast forward button to any Alexia Bliss segment usually takes care of all those “wasted” hours. I’m an old school fan and even I know wrestling isn’t all about the wrestling...shocking.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jan 29, 2019 9:41:06 GMT -5
B.S. Wrestling isn’t just about skill in the ring. It’s called sports entertainment for a reason. Wrestlers need to have a whole package of skill and looks otherwise why would we buy their merchandise? Asuka and Becky are amazingly hot AND can wrestle. I don’t see a Tamina fan club around here, wonder why. You can look good and be on tv, but if you're watching just because she's hot, why are you bothering to sit through hours of tv? If someone is no longer attractive to you, are you going to stop watching them? If so, why are you wasting your time watching when there are other ways to do it? You're telling me you'd sit through hours of unentertaining tv just for 15 minutes of watching someone you find attractive in the ring? That's a weird waste of time, but I guess it's your prerogative. And, there's no Tamina fan club for 2 reasons: 1. She has this permanent look on her face like she was told her father murdered someone. 2. Her wrestling ability is extremely questionable. So do you believe in your heart that if you improve Tamina in the ring to at least above average and transplant that damn the man gimmick to her, along with the last 6 months or so of Becky booking, that she would get the reactions Becky does now? 50% of liking or disliking a character is their look.
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Post by Bandalero on Jan 29, 2019 9:47:25 GMT -5
You can look good and be on tv, but if you're watching just because she's hot, why are you bothering to sit through hours of tv? If someone is no longer attractive to you, are you going to stop watching them? If so, why are you wasting your time watching when there are other ways to do it? You're telling me you'd sit through hours of unentertaining tv just for 15 minutes of watching someone you find attractive in the ring? That's a weird waste of time, but I guess it's your prerogative. And, there's no Tamina fan club for 2 reasons: 1. She has this permanent look on her face like she was told her father murdered someone. 2. Her wrestling ability is extremely questionable. So do you believe in your heart that if you improve Tamina in the ring to at least above average and transplant that damn the man gimmick to her, along with the last 6 months or so of Becky booking, that she would get the reactions Becky does now? 50% of liking or disliking a character is their look. You are absolutely right, but tell me what makes up the other 50%? Im not dismissing the need to be competent at actual wrestling, what I take umbrage to is that because another fan likes them for “looks” that somehow means they are not a fan of wrestling? The real business isn’t in the ring, the real business is selling us fans in buying into the character and you can’t separate skill and looks. Dash & Dawson are great technically, but will they ever have the appeal and legacy of the Road Warriors? Face paint and spikes on super buff guys over pudgy technicians. WWE is a business, the money is in selling the brand not the just the wrestling. It never was.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jan 29, 2019 9:55:21 GMT -5
I know they always get the booking right for WrestleMania season, but last night's RAW seems to have gotten everything right. It was awesome!
- The Rollins/HHH/Ambrose promo to start off the show was great. It felt like they're turning Ambrose into a tweener, which is what he should have been in the first place rather than a full heel.
- Ambrose's overselling of the Curb Stomp was perfect.
- Nia interrupting Dean's promo to attack Dean was fantastic! I know most internet fans HATE Nia Jax with a passion and likely always will, but I feel that for the first time in her main roster career, creative are finally handling Nia Jax right. Now she's an unstoppable, uncaring monster juggernaut who will happily beat up anyone, and that now includes the men's division. Now they just need to get rid of Tamina, because she's dragging Nia down and taking away from her monster persona. I really want to see Dean Ambrose VS Nia Jax at WrestleMania now. WWE should be doing more intergender wrestling, and this is a great idea.
- I love that Alexa Bliss ate the pinfall in the tag team match. Mickie has already been booked into oblivion, so she shouldn't be dragged down any more. I want to see more of Nia Jax after her booking and her performances over the past couple of days, and Dean can cost Nia and Tamina at Elimination Chamber to further their feud. And I'll be honest, I want to see Alexa Bliss losing for a good while. I'm not hating on Alexa Bliss as a performer at all. I think she's great, and maybe has the best mic skills out of anyone in WWE right now, man or woman. But she was superbooked for so long and handled so poorly until Ronda came along, that I really don't want to see that again anytime soon. I want to see her continually lose important matches for a while, until it gets to the point where I want to see her win.
- Kurt Angle losing clean to Baron Corbin was a bit weird. I really don't understand why Corbin is still wrestling in business attire. Why on earth hasn't he gone back to wrestling attire?
- Finn's promo was really good, and I enjoyed Lashley's beatdown on Finn, which is not something I thought I'd say. I think this is the beginning of a solid feud that will lead to Finn winning the Intercontinental Championship. After Finn's performance against Lesnar at the Royal Rumble, he deserves something to give him legitimacy.
- Riott Squad definitely deserved to be in the Chamber, and now they are. I will say that I think Dana Brooke has performed really well the past couple of days.
- Elias' heel turn was a bit baffling at first, but I can buy it if it's just so he can feud against Jarrett for WrestleMania. It was fantastic to see Road Dogg come out wearing a Becky Lynch shirt. That shows that even the people behind the scenes are fully behind Becky. I've never seen much of Jarrett, but I enjoyed the segment nonetheless.
- I thought they'd wait until Elimination Chamber or Fastlane for Ronda to vanquish the final remaining Horsewoman that isn't Becky Lynch, but now she's beaten them all.
- That Becky/Ronda segment was fantastic! It was really hilarious to hear the crowd vehemently booing Ronda every single second that she was speaking. And I say that even as someone who Ronda turned into a fan of hers. This is entirely the direction they should proceed in, with the audience rejecting Ronda in favour of Becky. It's not going to work as well if they try to keep Ronda as a sympathetic face.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 29, 2019 10:06:36 GMT -5
I know they always get the booking right for WrestleMania season, but last night's RAW seems to have gotten everything right. It was awesome! - The Rollins/HHH/Ambrose promo to start off the show was great. It felt like they're turning Ambrose into a tweener, which is what he should have been in the first place rather than a full heel. - Ambrose's overselling of the Curb Stomp was perfect. - Nia interrupting Dean's promo to attack Dean was fantastic! I know most internet fans HATE Nia Jax with a passion and likely always will, but I feel that for the first time in her main roster career, creative are finally handling Nia Jax right. Now she's an unstoppable, uncaring monster juggernaut who will happily beat up anyone, and that now includes the men's division. Now they just need to get rid of Tamina, because she's dragging Nia down and taking away from her monster persona. I really want to see Dean Ambrose VS Nia Jax at WrestleMania now. WWE should be doing more intergender wrestling, and this is a great idea. - I love that Alexa Bliss ate the pinfall in the tag team match. Mickie has already been booked into oblivion, so she shouldn't be dragged down any more. I want to see more of Nia Jax after her booking and her performances over the past couple of days, and Dean can cost Nia and Tamina at Elimination Chamber to further their feud. And I'll be honest, I want to see Alexa Bliss losing for a good while. I'm not hating on Alexa Bliss as a performer at all. I think she's great, and maybe has the best mic skills out of anyone in WWE right now, man or woman. But she was superbooked for so long and handled so poorly until Ronda came along, that I really don't want to see that again anytime soon. I want to see her continually lose important matches for a while, until it gets to the point where I want to see her win. - Kurt Angle losing clean to Baron Corbin was a bit weird. I really don't understand why Corbin is still wrestling in business attire. Why on earth hasn't he gone back to wrestling attire? - Finn's promo was really good, and I enjoyed Lashley's beatdown on Finn, which is not something I thought I'd say. I think this is the beginning of a solid feud that will lead to Finn winning the Intercontinental Championship. After Finn's performance against Lesnar at the Royal Rumble, he deserves something to give him legitimacy. - Riott Squad definitely deserved to be in the Chamber, and now they are. I will say that I think Dana Brooke has performed really well the past couple of days. - Elias' heel turn was a bit baffling at first, but I can buy it if it's just so he can feud against Jarrett for WrestleMania. It was fantastic to see Road Dogg come out wearing a Becky Lynch shirt. That shows that even the people behind the scenes are fully behind Becky. I've never seen much of Jarrett, but I enjoyed the segment nonetheless. - I thought they'd wait until Elimination Chamber or Fastlane for Ronda to vanquish the final remaining Horsewoman, but now she's beaten them all.
- That Becky/Ronda segment was fantastic! It was really hilarious to hear the crowd vehemently booing Ronda every single second that she was speaking. And I say that even as someone who Ronda turned into a fan of hers. This is entirely the direction they should proceed in, with the audience rejecting Ronda in favour of Becky. It's not going to work as well if they try to keep Ronda as a sympathetic face. Becky still remains
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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 29, 2019 10:10:40 GMT -5
You can look good and be on tv, but if you're watching just because she's hot, why are you bothering to sit through hours of tv? If someone is no longer attractive to you, are you going to stop watching them? If so, why are you wasting your time watching when there are other ways to do it? You're telling me you'd sit through hours of unentertaining tv just for 15 minutes of watching someone you find attractive in the ring? That's a weird waste of time, but I guess it's your prerogative. And, there's no Tamina fan club for 2 reasons: 1. She has this permanent look on her face like she was told her father murdered someone. 2. Her wrestling ability is extremely questionable. Not sure what year you are from but people have PVR nowadays. A tap of the fast forward button to any Alexia Bliss segment usually takes care of all those “wasted” hours. I’m an old school fan and even I know wrestling isn’t all about the wrestling...shocking. Didn't realize you can do that live. I better start doing that through the Superbowl. I'm an old school fan. I don't recall thinking "man, I love Paul Orndorff because of his sexy physique." I loved the guy because he could go in the ring. Same goes for guys like Brad Armstrong, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero, Randy Savage. You're confusing character with physical attraction. You're subsequent post reveals that. We buy into a character. No one is thinking Braun isn't impressive in terms of physique, and if his character was a dancing dinosaur, we'd turn off. Would you do otherwise? Same goes for women. It's impressive to see Nia Jax steamroll people. Tamina on the other hand isn't. She looks uncomfortable in the ring and always lost.
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Post by Bandalero on Jan 29, 2019 10:20:07 GMT -5
Not sure what year you are from but people have PVR nowadays. A tap of the fast forward button to any Alexia Bliss segment usually takes care of all those “wasted” hours. I’m an old school fan and even I know wrestling isn’t all about the wrestling...shocking. Didn't realize you can do that live. I better start doing that through the Superbowl. I'm an old school fan. I don't recall thinking "man, I love Paul Orndorff because of his sexy physique." I loved the guy because he could go in the ring. Same goes for guys like Brad Armstrong, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero, Randy Savage. You're confusing character with physical attraction. You're subsequent post reveals that. We buy into a character. No one is thinking Braun isn't impressive in terms of physique, and if his character was a dancing dinosaur, we'd turn off. Would you do otherwise? Same goes for women. It's impressive to see Nia Jax steamroll people. Tamina on the other hand isn't. She looks uncomfortable in the ring and always lost. I’m not disagreeing with you. I just don’t like you dismissing someone’s opinion just because they like their looks. And I’m not confusing character for physical attractiveness. If you were to dress up Dash and Dawson like the road warriors you think the gimmick would work? Hawk and Animal needed to be buff.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jan 29, 2019 13:08:14 GMT -5
So do you believe in your heart that if you improve Tamina in the ring to at least above average and transplant that damn the man gimmick to her, along with the last 6 months or so of Becky booking, that she would get the reactions Becky does now? 50% of liking or disliking a character is their look. You are absolutely right, but tell me what makes up the other 50%? Im not dismissing the need to be competent at actual wrestling, what I take umbrage to is that because another fan likes them for “looks” that somehow means they are not a fan of wrestling? The real business isn’t in the ring, the real business is selling us fans in buying into the character and you can’t separate skill and looks. Dash & Dawson are great technically, but will they ever have the appeal and legacy of the Road Warriors? Face paint and spikes on super buff guys over pudgy technicians. WWE is a business, the money is in selling the brand not the just the wrestling. It never was. I'm agreeing with all of that. I agree that you shouldn't watch wwe if you don't like pro wrestling. It can't be all about nikki Bella and her rack. I'm with you on that. You have to have SOMETHING ELSE. Could be skills in the ring, on the Mic, a cool gimmick, etc. I'm just saying it is fairly right about looks mattering. The becky/tamina swap shows that. But even with the guys, if you look like Pete Dunne I don't like you. If you look like the shield, I'm in.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Jan 29, 2019 13:50:24 GMT -5
Exclusive backstage photo from the after the Becky/Ronda segment
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Post by Tim of thee on Jan 29, 2019 16:10:51 GMT -5
God I ing hate the curb stomp it looks so LAME stick with the hi fly flow bruh
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Jan 29, 2019 16:15:25 GMT -5
Exclusive backstage photo from the after the Becky/Ronda segment SO MUCH HEAT!
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Jan 29, 2019 17:11:04 GMT -5
God I ing hate the curb stomp it looks so LAME stick with the hi fly flow bruh
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Post by marino13 on Jan 29, 2019 19:58:22 GMT -5
I expect Bray to return next week to help Braun out in his issues with McIntyre/Corbin. And hopefully they either stay a team for awhile, or it leads to a feud heading into WM. Like I've said before, they have history there I'd like to see explored more.
Meltzer is still saying that Charlotte will still be involved with Becky/Ronda at WM. I know I think he's usually full of ****, but I really hope he is this time. She's not needed and last night proved it.
I think they turned Elias heel for one of two reasons. First, to fill the soon to be void left by Ambrose preparing to leave. Or two, I've heard some speculate it's so he can be involved in an angle with the Rock at WM. Plus there are "reports" this Jeff Jarrett thing isn't over yet.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Jan 29, 2019 20:01:09 GMT -5
God I ing hate the curb stomp it looks so LAME stick with the hi fly flow bruh
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 30, 2019 15:19:23 GMT -5
They are doing everything right with Becky at the moment.....Rousey is RIPE for a turn at the moment. Crowd seems to have turned on her completely and her schtick could easily be because she was I the UFC she was so much better than everyone.
I actually think she could be an incredible heel...I reckon she could pull it off really well.
Finn vs Lashley intrigues me too...would like to see The Demon get his WM debut beating Lashley for the IC strap.
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Post by kak12397 on Jan 31, 2019 18:59:55 GMT -5
Haha sorry to make you kids angry about not finding Becky Lynch a goddess I guess you all find a woman acting like a man attractive.
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