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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Feb 18, 2019 19:28:23 GMT -5
I like some pose ability, but didn’t think elites needed too much upgrade. The recent addition of alternate heads/hands was what the elite line needed most. Getting away from ratchet hips and moving towards ball joint would be nice.
I’ll get Ronda because it’s the best version so far, Warrior because I have all the elites and need a WCW one. I’ll have to see about Bret and Shinsuke. I have DM and e63 and that’s pretty good for me. Also have WMXXX and e43 Bret so unless it’s all black or all pink I’m probably good.
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Post by suddenlyrichie on Feb 18, 2019 19:34:30 GMT -5
I disagree about the torso crunch on the UE. Personally I think it looks hideous almost like a hybrid of 2 bodies morphing into 1. Aesthetically it's possibly the worst decision Mattel has ever made but thankfully it's being experimented with on a sub-line and not the main elite series. That's just my opinion and only goes for the male torso but as this thread has proven. There seems to be a market for it. I'm obviously just used to the elite bodies and think it would be silly if they started using this style now. But hey what do I know lol? Ehh. Different strokes for different folks. I don’t see this style ever taking the elite line over, especially since they use it as a selling point for increased articulation. Honestly, I’d be fine if they made the elite style crunch better. Legends do it so much better, with the same style. Elites are more of an ab rocker, than a crunch. Lol. Nah. No trolling. It's nice to have and surely a nice thing for pictures but all I say is, if I have to decide between no ab crunch like basics and this mushroom abomination, than I take no ab crunch in a heartbeat. It's not like that I need this so desperately on my figures and couldn't live without that. I'm completely fine with how they do it on the elite figures (which is surprising for myself since I never like them on Jakks deluxe figures and always found the RA series WAY better) and like I said, it's nice to have so that can totally stay, but I would rather give this away completely, than take this new ab crunch, if I could decide. No brainer. I’d honestly leave the line if they got rid of it and didn’t drop the price. Lol. I still think the best solution would have been to simply “fix” the elite crunch, like I referenced in the rely above. |
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Post by PJ on Feb 18, 2019 19:35:29 GMT -5
I have seen it. And first they are hidden under those shoulder pads which unless they are LOD the WWE figures won’t have that to hide them. Secondly all the videos I have seen of people reviewing him there isn’t any real improvement to them to the point that they actually give him an extra set of already crossed arms. So that tells me the arms on him really do much as far as posing him with the regular arms they gave him in front of him. I haven’t really seen anything posted on the imports post on the other figures thread about the other figures I won’t comment on that one. The Goku one only has the sleves covering it to remain faithful to the source material. And you’re just plain wrong about the Vegeta figure. Lol. The folded arms aren’t done because the butterfly joints can’t accomplish it, it’s done so that you can accomplish a tucked arm look. The butterfly joints on the Vegeta allow easily allow it to have both hands meet in the center, all while keeping the figure’s chest look normally. The WWE Elite series could implement that sort of articulation and it would cause no visual “problems” like you alluded to AND would allow for the hands to meet at the middle for people like AJ to do their correct poses. Hell, it would even look good from the back, as it would look like the shoulder blades and back stretch, just like it would IRL. Sorry but I would rather take no ab crunch and an amazing looking figure than this mushroom looking thing with that you can only move the torso a few useless millimeters anyway and which make it looks like a baby toy. Take this useless articulation away and add some more in other places like arms or shoulders. That the articulation there is still so limited is ridiculous. I would trade that with useless ab crunch in a heartbeat. Speaking of useless stuff. I don't even know for what kind of situation that new toe articulation would be useful. Could have done something else here too. Lol stop. No ab crunch? Calling it useless? Now you’re just trolling. You really are dramatic. Also there’s no reason to “take away” articulation to add other places. For a $30 line, all of this should already be implemented. Well, here’s the Figaurts I have and the shoulders not posed in a vanilla pose look like a very ugly eyesore. Not only that they are very fragile so to take a shoulder and upper arm that already has multiple POA and adding another small part into the shoulder would make the shoulder design way more fragile which could be a safety issue. And even if it is hidden inside the shoulder housing when posed ther would still need to be a gap behind the shoulder which is ugly.   |
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Post by theicwguy on Feb 18, 2019 19:39:59 GMT -5
The Goku one only has the sleves covering it to remain faithful to the source material. And you’re just plain wrong about the Vegeta figure. Lol. The folded arms aren’t done because the butterfly joints can’t accomplish it, it’s done so that you can accomplish a tucked arm look. The butterfly joints on the Vegeta allow easily allow it to have both hands meet in the center, all while keeping the figure’s chest look normally. The WWE Elite series could implement that sort of articulation and it would cause no visual “problems” like you alluded to AND would allow for the hands to meet at the middle for people like AJ to do their correct poses. Hell, it would even look good from the back, as it would look like the shoulder blades and back stretch, just like it would IRL. Lol stop. No ab crunch? Calling it useless? Now you’re just trolling. You really are dramatic. Also there’s no reason to “take away” articulation to add other places. For a $30 line, all of this should already be implemented. Well, here’s the Figaurts I have and the shoulders not posed in a vanilla pose look like a very ugly eyesore. Not only that they are very fragile so to take a shoulder and upper arm that already has multiple POA and adding another small part into the shoulder would make the shoulder design way more fragile which could be a safety issue. And even if it is hidden inside the shoulder housing when posed ther would still need to be a gap behind the shoulder which is ugly. Why is Hunter wearing a bra? |
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Post by PJ on Feb 18, 2019 19:42:33 GMT -5
Well, here’s the Figaurts I have and the shoulders not posed in a vanilla pose look like a very ugly eyesore. Not only that they are very fragile so to take a shoulder and upper arm that already has multiple POA and adding another small part into the shoulder would make the shoulder design way more fragile which could be a safety issue. And even if it is hidden inside the shoulder housing when posed ther would still need to be a gap behind the shoulder which is ugly. Why is Hunter wearing a bra? The better question is why does he have gold hair? |
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Post by suddenlyrichie on Feb 18, 2019 19:51:51 GMT -5
Well, here’s the Figaurts I have and the shoulders not posed in a vanilla pose look like a very ugly eyesore. Not only that they are very fragile so to take a shoulder and upper arm that already has multiple POA and adding another small part into the shoulder would make the shoulder design way more fragile which could be a safety issue. And even if it is hidden inside the shoulder housing when posed ther would still need to be a gap behind the shoulder which is ugly. Neither of those are the bodies I was referring to though. So they're inaccurate when arguing against me. Here's one that shares the same upper body as the Vegeta I was referring to.  12Those two show pretty much exactly what I was referring to. I think Mattel could easily build on this to accomplish a visually appealing joint. |
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Post by PJ on Feb 18, 2019 20:25:45 GMT -5
The pics aren’t working just two clear boxes. But if you are talking about these two figures...   Show me a side and above view of the shoulders when the arms are together in front of the body. The back of the shoulders have to move outward for the hands to come together. And then also show me a straight forward front view of the figure with his arms down at his side, because 9 times out of 10 the shoulder look like they are just stuck onto the torso instead of going into the body. (Like the ML Wolverine below) And usually it is the clothing (shoulder pads like yellow costume ) that hides it but without them the shoulders always look out of place because they stick out to far.  |
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Feb 18, 2019 20:30:23 GMT -5
Why is Hunter wearing a bra? The better question is why does he have gold hair? The even better question is where are his nips! |
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Post by suddenlyrichie on Feb 18, 2019 20:47:48 GMT -5
The pics aren’t working just two clear boxes. But if you are talking about these two figures... Show me a side and above view of the shoulders when the arms are together in front of the body. The back of the shoulders have to move outward for the hands to come together. And then also show me a straight forward front view of the figure with his arms down at his side, because 9 times out of 10 the shoulder look like they are just stuck onto the torso instead of going into the body. (Like the ML Wolverine below) And usually it is the clothing (shoulder pads like yellow costume ) that hides it but without them the shoulders always look out of place because they stick out to far. I’m not arguing this anymore. Lol. Neither of us are going to change the other’s mind. 😂 and no, that’s not the Goku I was talking about |
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Feb 18, 2019 20:54:06 GMT -5
Another burning question: Why is blue/yellow Wolverine's crotch dented?
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Post by Mongo Bears on Feb 18, 2019 21:16:10 GMT -5
Another burning question: Why is blue/yellow Wolverine's crotch dented? He has quite a low belly button maybe.....lol |
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Post by wrestlingfan1000 on Feb 18, 2019 22:31:11 GMT -5
That King Mabel is too awesome! I can't wait to get one; if I find both versions I will definitely be getting both of them. I hope that Mattel are able to make Big Daddy V and Viscera.
If the next UE figures are true then I hope they slim down Nakamuras torso and legs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 4:03:17 GMT -5
Glad they changed up the head after the original pics to the older scan. Still sucks that they cancelled the swappable heads though. What? We’re not getting the young screaming head now? They said he has purple trunks underneath. What? We’re not getting the young screaming head now? They said he has purple trunks underneath. They should of done a variant with the 2nd head on it if they weren't going to include both heads Glad they changed up the head after the original pics to the older scan. Still sucks that they cancelled the swappable heads though. Has it actually been confirmed that the swappble heads were cancelled, or is that speculation based on only one being shown at Toyfair? I was mainly going off what we saw at Toy Fair about the heads. I may be way off the mark. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 4:05:29 GMT -5
Why is Hunter wearing a bra? The better question is why does he have gold hair? Bandai did the same thing to the Star Wars Figuarts line with the gold hair. No idea why. |
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Post by Elitemainia on Feb 19, 2019 6:37:39 GMT -5
It really doesn’t. Lol. Y’all are so dramatic. It does. It's horrific.  Sorry but I would rather take no ab crunch and an amazing looking figure than this mushroom looking thing with that you can only move the torso a few useless millimeters anyway and which make it looks like a baby toy. Take this useless articulation away and add some more in other places like arms or shoulders. That the articulation there is still so limited is ridiculous. I would trade that with useless ab crunch in a heartbeat. Speaking of useless stuff. I don't even know for what kind of situation that new toe articulation would be useful. Could have done something else here too. This is what could kill the sells on the UE is that crazy torso it looks so bad this figure would be great with the regular elites torso I'm so on the fence about buying this figure it's the one warrior figure I been waiting for and they give it that awful torso |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 8:23:09 GMT -5
They need to streamline the upper torso with the lower. At the moment the upper torso is just too thick.
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Post by PJ on Feb 19, 2019 9:07:02 GMT -5
They need to streamline the upper torso with the lower. At the moment the upper torso is just too thick. Exactly look at the thickness of the overhang lip on the upper torso. |
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Post by disorder on Feb 19, 2019 12:06:04 GMT -5
I don’t think you guys understand that the reason it has that torso swivel is because it could bend sideways, back, front, wherever.
Figures look awesome.
Idk why everyone is always so negative
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Feb 19, 2019 12:32:26 GMT -5
I don’t think you guys understand that the reason it has that torso swivel is because it could bend sideways, back, front, wherever. Figures look awesome. Idk why everyone is always so negative I thought the wider range of movement was obvious, but maybe fans are using the crappy range of the torso joint in the female figures as reference. I imagine these figs are using a barbell joint in the torso for maximum range, but who knows. And yeah, it would be nice if people would give their heel promos a rest now and then. |
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Post by PJ on Feb 19, 2019 12:36:56 GMT -5
I don’t think you guys understand that the reason it has that torso swivel is because it could bend sideways, back, front, wherever. Figures look awesome. Idk why everyone is always so negative I understand, but it’s an eyesore. That is why the Four Horsemen Studios dropped it in favor of the ab crunch back in ‘03/‘04 when they were sculpting Mattel’s Batman line. And as you can see in the two pics below that design looked 100x more natural of a switch between the two piece of torso than this now design.   |
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