Henchmen4Hire
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Feb 8, 2019 2:12:29 GMT -5
This is a problem I've seen your customers complain about a few times now.
I had this happen with a Sammy Zayn elite and this Elite 59 Balor. The arm would only turn so far before refusing to continue. In both cases, the fault was with the rubbery piece that goes on the tip of the shoulder peg (unfortunately, you have to split open the figure to fix this).
The cross-cutout in the rubbery tip had little bits of excess plastic that didn't let it slip on completely, so the tip was snagging on a corner/wall in the chest, restricting movement. The chewed up area is where it snags.
In the case of the Sammy Zayn, the problem was a thick seamline on the peg, enough that it restricted movement in a similar way.
So there you go, now you know at least 2 reasons why the arms won't turn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 2:49:49 GMT -5
Nice piece of detective work there. We finally have our culprit.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Feb 8, 2019 2:50:53 GMT -5
Something so small with a big effect.
Unfortunately though, you just know they aren't going to bother fixing it. It sucks too because a lot of the highly anticipated figures have this torso - Undisputed Era (Already known to have the issue), Aleister Black, Cedric Alexander, Ricochet (They'll probably give him this torso), the new Daniel Bryan (Pun intended).
All will likely have the arm issue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 2:58:44 GMT -5
I don't remember that extra bit of plastic above the joint in the torso from when I was doing customs but then it has been awhile.
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J.O.B. Squad
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Post by J.O.B. Squad on Feb 8, 2019 6:42:42 GMT -5
Thanks for this. Even though I know they won’t bother to fix it it’s still nice to know what is ruining so many great figures. Damn shame.
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Post by hellojoeivers on Feb 8, 2019 6:48:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarity on this. I can't see them doing anything about it but we can dream!
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Post by qdogg on Feb 8, 2019 9:20:26 GMT -5
To everything turn turn turn
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MR._SOCKO
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Feb 8, 2019 10:26:27 GMT -5
When you put the torso back together, is it super loose and wobbly?
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Feb 8, 2019 10:38:49 GMT -5
So I’m guessing that the reason the left arm will start spinning freely and not stay up is because that little piece either snaps or falls off  |
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Post by disorder on Feb 8, 2019 10:40:06 GMT -5
They have to meet specific safety guidelines for QC.
This piece is probably a part off that process
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Feb 8, 2019 10:44:48 GMT -5
I remember when Jakks started putting those rubber pieces in the arm joint the last few years before they lost the WWE license to save money. It was the worst, because those rubber squares would come loose if you rotated an arm too much and then it would pop out and start rattling around the torso and the arm was basically broken at that point. The only way to fix it was to crack open the torso and put it back in place. Hopefully, this doesn't happen with Mattel.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Feb 8, 2019 10:49:50 GMT -5
What's weird is this didn't happen before. So something changed during the manufacturing process, but unfortunately I doubt Mattel will care one bit about fixing this.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Feb 8, 2019 10:51:51 GMT -5
I remember when Jakks started putting those rubber pieces in the arm joint the last few years before they lost the WWE license to save money. It was the worst, because those rubber squares would come loose if you rotated an arm too much and then it would pop out and start rattling around the torso and the arm was basically broken at that point. The only way to fix it was to crack open the torso and put it back in place. Hopefully, this doesn't happen with Mattel. They put them in the Deluxe Aggression ab crunch too. My DA6 Edge has had a floppy stomach for 12 years because it started to fall out and I pulled it out not knowing what it was |
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Post by marino13 on Feb 8, 2019 11:54:12 GMT -5
While I do hate a stiff arm, I also detest loose arms. We need a happy medium.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Feb 8, 2019 13:04:03 GMT -5
If you heat the arm in a cup of warm water and move it around once it’s loosened up then it should solve the prob. But I agree mattel should correct this.
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Henchmen4Hire
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Feb 8, 2019 16:50:40 GMT -5
When you put the torso back together, is it super loose and wobbly? So I’m guessing that the reason the left arm will start spinning freely and not stay up is because that little piece either snaps or falls off They have to meet specific safety guidelines for QC. This piece is probably a part off that process
Without the rubbery piece, yeah, the arm spins freely. It creates friction so the arm won't be floppy, but if the rubbery piece is misaligned, loose, whatever, it snags and causes this problem.
Try getting the tiny rubberbands people use for braces. Assemble the figure them slide some of those up the arm and into the shoulder joint to create friction. You shouldn't be able to see them since they're so small.
Even plastic wrap works.
If you heat the arm in a cup of warm water and move it around once it’s loosened up then it should solve the prob. But I agree mattel should correct this. In this case the rubbery piece is loose/deformed/whatever and blocks movement, getting worse the more you move it. It's a physical obstruction, a little heat won't do anything. |
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Post by rastlinfigures on Feb 8, 2019 16:52:05 GMT -5
Wow - very thorough explanation.
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Post by Chewdeezy on Feb 8, 2019 17:14:23 GMT -5
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Feb 8, 2019 17:42:42 GMT -5
This is how you present issues. Take note.
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Post by The King Of Crisps on Feb 8, 2019 19:05:19 GMT -5
I never got why they make both shoulders differently, is that so they dont get confused in the assembly process?
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