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Post by Mongo Bears on Mar 5, 2019 13:59:24 GMT -5
Wow. Grow up people. You don’t think I want Sherri?! ...Well guess what?!? If I can’t find Sherri then I don’t get Sherri. If it’s too much money I don’t get it. If it bothers me that much I stop buying altogether. What the is wrong with you people?! Stop trying to figure out how Mattel should do their job. I don’t like store exclusives either but I have a life I need to live.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 5, 2019 14:01:52 GMT -5
Wow. Grow up people. You don’t think I want Sherri?! ...Well guess what?!? If I can’t find Sherri then I don’t get Sherri. If it’s too much money I don’t get it. If it bothers me that much I stop buying altogether. What the is wrong with you people?! Stop trying to figure out how Mattel should do their job. I don’t like store exclusives either but I have a life I need to live. 🎤 drop! Done over! You win!
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Post by LuisTX on Mar 5, 2019 14:09:36 GMT -5
What about France? Germany? Japan? China? Australia? Well I’m just talking about UK because of the OP and the fact I mainly see people from the UK talking about not getting the U.S. exclusives at all when this store gets them all, and a lot of them. But like I said earlier, this is a U.S. company. I’m sure there’s lots of things in those countries Americans would love to have but understand we have to pay extra to get them.
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Post by undertakerfan22 on Mar 5, 2019 14:53:13 GMT -5
What about France? Germany? Japan? China? Australia? I live is Germany. Bob Backlund popped up on a German online shop called mytoys about 2 weeks ago. The price is 29,99 €. I found him there fortuitously because I looked for the WM 35 Basics and grabbed the last one then, but now he is back in stock. No sign of Dunne and Sherri here but I am not interested at all in getting these 2. The only way to get Walmart or Target Exclusives to Germany is eBay or online shop with higher prices (like 65,99 € for 1 figure of the Hall of Champions Elite line) . I don't like it that the figures are only released to that stores since international collectors have to pay way more than they actually want or have to buy it on eBay.
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Mar 5, 2019 15:15:48 GMT -5
What are you peeps complaining about? You get worldwide exclusive pics of Rikishi and Killian Dain having babies on this forum, why isn't that enough? Will it ever be enough? Do I need to post even more exclusives like that? Please say yes.
Like Luis says, Japan gets metric tons of really cool toys and gadgets, across many genres, that I'll never get to buy, or even know about, but I don't flip my wig over it.
Listen, we're all giraffes right? We all want those succulent leaves in the tree? But no matter how high we can reach, there are some leaves up there we'll never get to munch on. Maybe you should find a lower tree.
And I get it, some of those leaves are painted like concrete and have lightning spritz all over them, and you may really, really want to get at it, but what can you do? Raise the Undead Ultimate Giraffe Leaf Warrior so he can request more stone-lightning leaves? Is beast-warrior-necromancy the answer? Well, maybe.
What were we talking about again? Flavors of soda exclusive to Vietnam? Outrageous!
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Post by PJ on Mar 5, 2019 15:18:48 GMT -5
If they are ones I want then Hopefully it end on my shelves What are you peeps complaining about? You get worldwide exclusive pics of Rikishi and Killian Dain having babies on this forum, why isn't that enough? Will it ever be enough? Do I need to post even more exclusives like that? Please say yes. First off it was Samoa Joe not Rikishi...you don’t even know your own figure’s names! So you’re a monster! (* edit I see you added Rikishi after I saw it the other day) Secondary I posted something the other day in the “what made you happy today” thread in the lounge that clearly should have brought peace and harmony and unity to this board, but clearly the board is beyond that now.
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Post by Edge Sangral on Mar 5, 2019 15:43:40 GMT -5
I understand that, but Wrestling Shop gets all those figures, no matter what U.S. stores they were exclusive to. The thing is though, Wrestling-Shop is a specialist store, charging specialist prices... not a mass-market retail store charging retail prices. Most store exclusives from them cost around £40 ($53 USD) plus postage. Not to mention, there are certain figures (Harley Race, Pete Dunne...) that they simply cannot get - and if they did happen to get some, you can bet your bottom dollar they'd charge well over £40 for them. You are partly right about that. Yes, special figures have even higher prices than the normal lines, about £40. But I bet if the limited figure lines would get sold here normally, it would be the exact same price. At least for extra lines, single exclusives from a normal Elite series probably not. You have to take into consideration that the general price for all figures is a lot higher here. In UK around 5 bucks I think. Sometimes 10 and in Germany the official RRP for basics is 18-20€ which is around 23$ and the official Elite RRP is 30€, yes 34$. That is the standard here. So of course every special line is automatically more expensive too. I'm sure WS puts a few extra bucks on top of it, yes, but it's not that far away from what we generally pay here, for all figures. I had a good laugh yesterday when I read the "what's the highest you paid for 1 or 2 figures" thread and some people seriously wrote stuff like 20 or 25$. Jesus Christ, that's what heaven must be like down there in the US as collector. Germany definitely isn't. (And eBay is as worse as the retail prices here, cheap deals are almost impossible, everything, loose or not goes away for ridiculous prices.)
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Post by 666erickana on Mar 5, 2019 16:00:56 GMT -5
Colllecting wrestling figures is not easy for the first time for the usa collectors, here in canada , its been like that since 1996, so we used to it. If my family on trip to usa cant find me the figs, then i buy the figs at big prices of ebay, there is no way out. You want rare figs, pay the price that people are willing to pay. If you dont want to pay that kind of prices, change your hobby , its the new law of the jungle. Its over the time taht us people pay $10 for a figure, and us from canada or uk have to pay $60. Now its $100 for everyone , if you want the good stuff. Deal with it. Finally we will get a pat patterson figure, i dont think without the new exclusive thing, it was possible to see to fig get a release. The only think that sucks from mattel, is when they showed figs and they never release them, that a disgrace like wendi richter, the gooker,etc..
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Post by PJ on Mar 5, 2019 16:08:11 GMT -5
The gooker was never intended to be release. Like the Punk vs Orton statue and the Beth Phoenix with rooted hair they were made as display pieces for Mattel booth at the conventions. Then people kept asking Bill about them and he finally said if there was enough interest in them they would think about it. But other than a handful of people there wasn’t enough interest for them to become production pieces.
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Post by undertakerfan22 on Mar 5, 2019 16:43:05 GMT -5
The thing is though, Wrestling-Shop is a specialist store, charging specialist prices... not a mass-market retail store charging retail prices. Most store exclusives from them cost around £40 ($53 USD) plus postage. Not to mention, there are certain figures (Harley Race, Pete Dunne...) that they simply cannot get - and if they did happen to get some, you can bet your bottom dollar they'd charge well over £40 for them. You are partly right about that. Yes, special figures have even higher prices than the normal lines, about £40. But I bet if the limited figure lines would get sold here normally, it would be the exact same price. At least for extra lines, single exclusives from a normal Elite series probably not. You have to take into consideration that the general price for all figures is a lot higher here. In UK around 5 bucks I think. Sometimes 10 and in Germany the official RRP for basics is 18-20€ which is around 23$ and the official Elite RRP is 30€, yes 34$. That is the standard here. So of course every special line is automatically more expensive too. I'm sure WS puts a few extra bucks on top of it, yes, but it's not that far away from what we generally pay here, for all figures. I had a good laugh yesterday when I read the "what's the highest you paid for 1 or 2 figures" thread and some people seriously wrote stuff like 20 or 25$. Jesus Christ, that's what heaven must be like down there in the US as collector. Germany definitely isn't. (And eBay is as worse as the retail prices here, cheap deals are almost impossible, everything, loose or not goes away for ridiculous prices.) I remember a few eBay auctions in Germany where the figures were sold for ridiculous prices. for example: 4 Horseman HOF set : 150 € HOF 2 Tito Santana: 85 € Legends King Kong Bundy (RIP) : 225 € RAW Ring with Goldberg: over 220 € Elite 30 LOD: 95 € old Ringside Exclusive figures: nearly every time close to 120-150 € (the newer ones are sold for around 50 €) You can see that the figure which were never released here are very expensive to get and it's not easy for us. I have to deal with it and will not complain but sometimes i just wish that it should be easier for everyone (USA and INTERNATIONAL collector) to get the figure that we want for a decent price.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Mar 5, 2019 17:00:21 GMT -5
Yes, exclusives are just a horrendous idea, and come across as big " you" to us international buyers. I don't care what anybody says, there is simply no justification for it. And until Mattel finally see sense and stop this ridiculous practise, I will continue to complain. From a business standpoint it makes sense to Mattel. I just wish they'd do the same thing as Hasbro and make distribution deals for international collectors. For example, in Canada we don't have Target or Walgreens, so Marvel Legends/Star Wars Black Series Target exclusives go to Toys R Us, and Walgreens exclusives go to EB Games/GameStop.
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Post by LA Times on Mar 5, 2019 17:22:52 GMT -5
We have too many of these topics as it is. It literally is the same complaint over and over again and all anyone has talked about in any thread for like two weeks. I for one am over it. 2 weeks? People have been complaining since October with Flashback Series 3.
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Post by LA Times on Mar 5, 2019 17:28:05 GMT -5
no other way to view it--the recent exclusive rollout seems like a fail when all the figures are $100+ on the secondary mkt and also: why arent there any amazon exclusives? amazon should have tons of them why isn't ringside pumping out more exclusives? don't see why they couldn't do simple repaints of hot characters why arent there other online toy retailer exclusives? if mattel wwe sales were hurting i can appreciate trying new tactics, but distribution has always been garbage why did bill think adding 1 per case store exclusives to the mix would do anything but cause aggravation and alienation of loyal customers? Amazon doesnt have their own Mattel WWE exclusives because they dont need it. They dont have physical stores across the country to get foot traffic into. Not everything can be exclusive to Ringside and with Toys R Us gone, Walmart and Target are Mattels 2 biggest customers now, so Mattel caters to them whether you like it or not.
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Post by stc13 on Mar 5, 2019 17:28:36 GMT -5
I feel like we continually go in circles with this topic because some people don't like the answer. But Mattel is a business, and I'm sure they are keenly aware of the numbers and the cost/benefit to various scenarios.
There are something like 6,000 Walmarts and 2,000 Targets in the US. There are something like 100 Smyths stores in the UK. Large volume customers get special treatment, that's just a fact of most businesses. I'm sure Mattel would love to increase international sales. But they aren't going to do that at the expense of keeping their biggest retailers happy.
And Mattel has made recent US exclusives available to international retailers. It takes two to tango. There seem to be some incredibly high import fees and tariffs on toys in some countries, which probably makes it cost prohibitive for international retailers. That's on the government, not Mattel. I'm not sure what people want Mattel to realistically do. Because just flat out ending all exclusives isn't realistic...
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Post by LK3 on Mar 5, 2019 17:34:53 GMT -5
I feel like we continually go in circles with this topic because some people don't like the answer. But Mattel is a business, and I'm sure they are keenly aware of the numbers and the cost/benefit to various scenarios. There are something like 6,000 Walmarts and 2,000 Targets in the US. There are something like 100 Smyths stores in the UK. Large volume customers get special treatment, that's just a fact of most businesses. I'm sure Mattel would love to increase international sales. But they aren't going to do that at the expense of keeping their biggest retailers happy. And Mattel has made recent US exclusives available to international retailers. It takes two to tango. There seem to be some incredibly high import fees and tariffs on toys in some countries, which probably makes it cost prohibitive for international retailers. That's on the government, not Mattel. I'm not sure what people want Mattel to realistically do. Because just flat out ending all exclusives isn't realistic... They probably want them to be like @ham and show up at their house with the figures they want.
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Mar 5, 2019 17:44:10 GMT -5
We have too many of these topics as it is. It literally is the same complaint over and over again and all anyone has talked about in any thread for like two weeks. I for one am over it. You must live in the US then. This will be an ongoing issue for all collectors outside of the states for as long as Mattel keeps making it an issue.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 5, 2019 17:46:35 GMT -5
To be brutally honest I'm over it. I have been forced out of collecting figures, something I have done for 20 years so a door has officially closed.
What I will say is that there isn't a market for WWE figures in the UK anymore and it's mainly due to the price. Lets be honest £20 is too expensive for an Elite Wrestling figure and people including myself wait for them to be reduced and as a result the stores lose money so don't want to bring exclusives in.
Surely the US exclusives are available from scalpers online but I downright refuse to give in and fill their pockets.
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Post by atimmo on Mar 5, 2019 17:51:59 GMT -5
If you are not happy then stop buying figures en masse in protest. Maybe they will get the message then. I've actually seen quite a few people say it's become too much and they are just going to stop collecting (...some even say they are going to sell their whole WWE/Mattel collections too). Surely Mattel can't be happy about this though - and that they're actually turning loyal customers away? People/collectors WANT TO BUY the figures, yet can't as it has become too difficult to find certain ones. Meanwhile, these figures are going for crazy amounts on the secondary market... whatever way you look at it, it doesn't seem like a good business move. And relax... (again) I completely stopped collecting Mattel and sold of my entire collection because of the difficulty getting hold of figures over here and the price I was paying for each figure (I’m in England). I only collect Retros now, and the latest series’ of those have no current plans to be released here. No previous wrestling toy company had trouble getting stock on shelves over here, and the WWE has never been so mainstream here than it is now. It’s frustrating and does alienate the customer
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Post by 6 seasons and a movie on Mar 5, 2019 18:04:18 GMT -5
I think exclusive lines are great as it makes you want to go to the store and look, and they can be tracked through different sites and you can see if your store might have them in. I think store exclusive figures that are only replacing one figure in a case is bad as some stores might not even get that series in and of you only get it in once that means only one person in that area was able to get that figure. I wish it was kind of like how Target did the Rocky Mavia but maybe just not as many at all stores. You give the figure it's own peg and allow more people to get it. Also should have store deals with other countries to allow them a chance at them too.
Not sure what has been funnier over the last few days people totally going over board at Ryder for his opinion or the people who seem to be going over board trying to kiss up to him. Either on the forum or through social media and appearing to hope he will try and hook them up.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Mar 5, 2019 18:26:58 GMT -5
Guys, OP is being melodramatic, but I am with him. Some of your replies are terrible. Yes, there are disasters in the world and other people suffering, but this is a wrestling figure forum. It's not Reddit. It's not Facebook. It's not Instagram. Yes, this has been discussed ad nauseam, but his complaints are valid. If US stores want these exclusive figures, they should be made available to the foreign collectors as well through some other means. I don't know that that is, it'd need to be locked to US collectors to keep the US retailers happy. Tell em! (Claps hands)
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