budbundy
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Post by budbundy on Apr 5, 2019 10:02:20 GMT -5
This new Kofi Kingston push irks me because how is he suddenly a top guy when it wasn’t too long ago he was wrestling on pre-shows and losing singles matches to Eric Young, Cesaro, and Luke Gallows, and now he’s beating all the top guys consecutively in gauntlet style matchups? It makes no sense. No wrestler should be able to beat five top guys in a row, not even Braun Strowman or Goldberg. I get WWE is long overdue for a black WWE world champion but this is ridiculous. Smackdown has been so boring with these predictable gauntlets lately. Fans know Kofi is going to make it. Maybe I wouldn’t mind so much if so many guys weren’t buried in the process of getting Kofi over. It feels like WWE is just letting the fans decide who wins and loses world titles at the big shows more than ever. You a fan? You pick who wins! Who would you make champion?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 5, 2019 12:13:50 GMT -5
Jinder Mahal went from jobbing to Finn Bálor and giving him a concussion to becoming WWE champion within like a month, it’s wrestling. Things never make sense, get over it. ... he’s earned it. End of story. /thread. You can literally end the thread with this. At least Kofi wasnt a complete jobber when he's getting his opportunity.
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Post by BCizzle on Apr 5, 2019 12:18:56 GMT -5
This guy is a Kofi hater AND a Becky hater. Who you gonna dump on next, Santa Claus?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 5, 2019 14:05:20 GMT -5
Oh god, if you're going to keep complaining about the product then don't ing watch. I say this every day when i see people do nothing but complain. Much more to do or watch when WWEs on. Luckily for me im normally at work on Monday nights
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Apr 5, 2019 14:39:33 GMT -5
Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Diesel, Steve Austin, Batista, and HHH were all mid-carders for years before getting their shots at the main event. Kofi had already been near the top, and now that the fans want him main-eventing, there's no reason for him to be deprived of his moment in the sun.
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havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Apr 5, 2019 14:50:46 GMT -5
Look at it like baseball and basketball. Every player eventually gets a hot streak.This is Kofi's hitting streak. Jinder had one. Now he's back where he belongs.
Remember Jeremy Lin? Kofi is him.
I only laugh at the fact that many fans don't realize how the hype was manufactured. Before the gauntlet, very few individuals were clamoring for a Kofi Kingston title run. Big E? Sure. Kofi? Maybe a few. Then the announcers tell you this is incredible, and you buy in. How come this didn't work with Roman?
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Post by TheLastDude on Apr 5, 2019 15:11:02 GMT -5
This new Kofi Kingston push irks me because how is he suddenly a top guy when it wasn’t too long ago he was wrestling on pre-shows and losing singles matches to Eric Young, Cesaro, and Luke Gallows, and now he’s beating all the top guys consecutively in gauntlet style matchups? It makes no sense. No wrestler should be able to beat five top guys in a row, not even Braun Strowman or Goldberg. I get WWE is long overdue for a black WWE world champion but this is ridiculous. Smackdown has been so boring with these predictable gauntlets lately. Fans know Kofi is going to make it. Maybe I wouldn’t mind so much if so many guys weren’t buried in the process of getting Kofi over. It feels like WWE is just letting the fans decide who wins and loses world titles at the big shows more than ever. It feels like you don't actually watch wrestling and haven't for a long time. I completely agree. The problem with WWE now is that wrestlers stay for sooo long so I’m not sure how ‘he’s earned it’. Kofis biggest claim to fame is the played out ‘how would he survive the rumble elimination each year’. Being a jobber for 10 years and having 2 or 3 memorable storylines in 11 years somehow gets you a Mania Title match...no one is buying a ‘best of Kofi kingston dvd’ Four time Intercontinental champion, three time US champion, eight time Tag Team champion, consistently one of the most popular wrestlers with fans of all ages, a member of one of the most popular stables in history, a human highlight reel in the Royal Rumble...but yeah, he's a jobber. Jesus, at least educate yourself before you go around opening the toolbox. Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Diesel, Steve Austin, Batista, and HHH were all mid-carders for years before getting their shots at the main event. Kofi had already been near the top, and now that the fans want him main-eventing, there's no reason for him to be deprived of his moment in the sun. This. Where do we think the new "guy" comes from? More often than not, he toiled away in the midcard until lightning struck and all of a sudden he's the face of the franchise. Look at that list antivenom posted. Two long time tag team wrestlers, two sidekicks, and two guys who bounced around doing hug-all until the world took notice of them.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Apr 5, 2019 15:13:41 GMT -5
What irks me about it, is that guys like Zack Ryder, Ryback, Fandango, Tye Dillinger were all over organically with the fans, and Vince did everything in his power to squash that.
So why did he decide, "better push Kofi?!?!"
I legit hope Kofi Kingston loses at WrestleMania, just so this KofiMania crap can finally die. Let's get back to actual real contenders for the WWE Title, and not some spot fest superstar who has been in a tag team for the past 5 years.
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johnnyaustin21
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Apr 5, 2019 16:13:45 GMT -5
Kofi got lucky with Ali going down from his concussion,if that wouldn't have happened he and New Day would still just be fitting over the tag team titles and in the tag team division mix.But Ali did get hurt and Kofi was at the right place at the right time,which you can say is the case for many wrestlers who went from mid card or lower acts to main event talents(i.e. biggest case being Austin in WWE with him winning the KOTR '96 when it was suppose to be Triple H)so its been done before.
Also keep in mind unlike the super rocket push out of the blue for Jindar that Kofi has been in the WWE for 11 years or so and has had multiple reigns as IC/US/Tag Team Champion and has been in the mid card mix and never treated as a total jobber.
I kind of think of Kofi's sudden push like a babyface version of JBL's back in '04.With Bradshaw kind of getting a push out of knowhere do to Brock & Goldberg leaving and Angle & Big Show going down with injuries.He like Kofi was a mid carder and tag team guy but still had credibility being a guy who's had multiple title reigns in the WWE and a guy who had many years under his belt.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 5, 2019 16:50:52 GMT -5
What irks me about it, is that guys like Zack Ryder, Ryback, Fandango, Tye Dillinger were all over organically with the fans, and Vince did everything in his power to squash that. So why did he decide, "better push Kofi?!?!" I legit hope Kofi Kingston loses at WrestleMania, just so this KofiMania crap can finally die. Let's get back to actual real contenders for the WWE Title, and not some spot fest superstar who has been in a tag team for the past 5 years. Sorta different circumstances for most. Ill agree with Ryder. Tye was really over in NXT, not so much. Ryback was red hot, but he got red hot at the wrong time when they had other plans. Then they turned him heel which messed everything up afterward, i personally wouldn't count that as Vince doing everything he could to squash it. They should have went for him after Mania. Fandango got a concussion, which then ruined everything afterward.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Apr 5, 2019 21:09:48 GMT -5
They finally do something right, they build a guy that people generally like, they make him seem like he is riding the wave of his life, they make him seem like maybe he can pull it off...they put a new guy in the main event scene...and you still cry like a little baby.
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Apr 6, 2019 0:48:11 GMT -5
You have to be jaded af to not enjoy Kofi’s current run.
(I am ready for Big E’s post Mania heel turn, lol.)
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Apr 6, 2019 9:26:40 GMT -5
What irks me about it, is that guys like Zack Ryder, Ryback, Fandango, Tye Dillinger were all over organically with the fans, and Vince did everything in his power to squash that. So why did he decide, "better push Kofi?!?!" I could speculate all day long on this one. Maybe that one Raw where they came out and apologized for giving us a bad product was semi-legit? Ali was going to get pushed but got injured and Kofi, as replacement, went over with the crowd more than expected? Vince has been in full Vince mode ever since the year he changed the WM main event for Bryan and then he got injured. He makes a decision and sticks close to it, no matter the fan reaction. He’s going to have to bow out to focus on XFL soon, so maybe he’s softening his stance? Maybe he made decisions last year for WM and between several injuries across the board and Roman’s returning leukemia, storylines got tossed out the window? Besides that, this is pro wrestling. Suspending disbelief is what the fans have been doing since the beginning. If you want reality, you’re better off with MMA or stick and ball sports. There’s no creative to complain about there.
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Apr 6, 2019 9:35:41 GMT -5
IMO, he should've been a top guy 10 years ago
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banthafett
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Post by banthafett on Apr 6, 2019 9:56:06 GMT -5
This new Kofi Kingston push irks me because how is he suddenly a top guy when it wasn’t too long ago he was wrestling on pre-shows and losing singles matches to Eric Young, Cesaro, and Luke Gallows, and now he’s beating all the top guys consecutively in gauntlet style matchups? It makes no sense. No wrestler should be able to beat five top guys in a row, not even Braun Strowman or Goldberg. I get WWE is long overdue for a black WWE world champion but this is ridiculous. Smackdown has been so boring with these predictable gauntlets lately. Fans know Kofi is going to make it. Maybe I wouldn’t mind so much if so many guys weren’t buried in the process of getting Kofi over. It feels like WWE is just letting the fans decide who wins and loses world titles at the big shows more than ever. Totally agree with all of this. What bugs me the most is the ' he deserves it" crap. Why? because hes been there for a long time, (doing nothing)? Hell, Woods and Big E have been carrying all of this way more than Kofi has. This WM is agenda overload. Its like Disney bought WWE but didn't let anyone know about it.
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Post by marino13 on Apr 6, 2019 12:00:19 GMT -5
I actually prefer when someone has to claw and fight their way to the top. I like it when it doesn't come easy. I like seeing someone start at the mid to bottom of the card and earn their spot. Had Benoit walked in as top guy, would WM20 have meant as much? Had Bryan come in and gone undefeated for two years, would his WM30 win mean as much?
Sometimes the struggle is the most important part of the journey.
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budbundy
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Post by budbundy on Apr 6, 2019 12:13:46 GMT -5
You never say who you would make champ? How Come? You can't answer questions, only vomit negativity?
I like to look at it from what was down on previous year. Savage at Mania 3 losing his title to getting the big one at Mania 4. Same with Warrior for 5 and 6. Bret goes from IC at 8 to walking in champ at 9. You get what I'm typing up. You smell what I'm bringing. It's all about journey not the destination.
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airbud
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Post by airbud on Apr 6, 2019 13:02:05 GMT -5
You never say who you would make champ? How Come? You can't answer questions, only vomit negativity? I like to look at it from what was down on previous year. Savage at Mania 3 losing his title to getting the big one at Mania 4. Same with Warrior for 5 and 6. Bret goes from IC at 8 to walking in champ at 9. You get what I'm typing up. You smell what I'm bringing. It's all about journey not the destination. I’ve wanted to see Kurt Angle wrestle Daniel Bryan for over a decade. The way wwe is booking, it doesn’t look like it will ever happen. Honestly I’m not clamoring for a title change at the moment. As I said, my main gripe with Kofi’s push has been the burial of everyone else to get him over.
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crashholly2002
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Post by crashholly2002 on Apr 6, 2019 13:33:24 GMT -5
funny; i never seen OP throw a fit that someone like Jinder Mahal or Carmella were champions at the time, despite the fact I did enjoy both their tenures as champions
if you're gonna throw fits, you might as well be consistent at it
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Apr 6, 2019 13:58:38 GMT -5
You never say who you would make champ? How Come? You can't answer questions, only vomit negativity? I like to look at it from what was down on previous year. Savage at Mania 3 losing his title to getting the big one at Mania 4. Same with Warrior for 5 and 6. Bret goes from IC at 8 to walking in champ at 9. You get what I'm typing up. You smell what I'm bringing. It's all about journey not the destination. I’ve wanted to see Kurt Angle wrestle Daniel Bryan for over a decade. The way wwe is booking, it doesn’t look like it will ever happen. Honestly I’m not clamoring for a title change at the moment. As I said, my main gripe with Kofi’s push has been the burial of everyone else to get him over. You don’t know what a burial is
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