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Post by OTC Waxbender on Apr 19, 2019 14:20:02 GMT -5
Roman Reigns will go in as a singles competitor and a faction member just you wait and see.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Apr 19, 2019 14:43:24 GMT -5
Roman Reigns will go in as a singles competitor and a faction member just you wait and see. Well, he should.
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Post by TheLastDude on Apr 19, 2019 15:04:12 GMT -5
Nothing says they have to keep it to a certain amount of inductees either. They could always just induct only the NWO one year and do an entire retrospective on the history of the stable with speeches by the biggest names. That's an entire show right there.
Look at the celebrity wing. They put Rose in in 04, skipped 05, Fridge in 06, then skipped 07-09, and then did inductions every year from 10-16, skipped 17, Kid Rock in 18, and skipped it again this year.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Apr 19, 2019 15:46:38 GMT -5
Nothing says they have to keep it to a certain amount of inductees either. They could always just induct only the NWO one year and do an entire retrospective on the history of the stable with speeches by the biggest names. That's an entire show right there. Look at the celebrity wing. They put Rose in in 04, skipped 05, Fridge in 06, then skipped 07-09, and then did inductions every year from 10-16, skipped 17, Kid Rock in 18, and skipped it again this year. Celebrity wing should be done all together. Since we can’t eliminate the wing despite some of its unsavory inductees, I say they induct Cyndi Lauper in 2020 then let that wing retire. It’s a slap in the face that the Celebrity spot gets an induction segment each year yet the Legacy gets a snippet. I know, realistically, the Legacy inductees wouldn’t pack seats. It would probably be a bit of a bore to watch someone induct them. However, if any more celebs go in they should get a snippet package like the Legacy.
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Post by LA Times on Apr 19, 2019 15:54:08 GMT -5
Roman Reigns will go in as a singles competitor and a faction member just you wait and see. He could even go in as a Warrior Award winner
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Post by BØRNS on Apr 19, 2019 19:55:47 GMT -5
Also, is the HOF just meant to be a big encyclopedia of every wrestler who has worked for the company? Pretty much. There are literally hundreds of wrestlers in the WWE’s history to get through. The only issue will be headliners, and I’ve just given a list of about fifteen of those. There are tons more too- the likes of Miz, Bryan, even Punk will kiss and make up at some point. And by the time the current old guys are done, there’ll be Becky, Charlotte, Rousey, Rollins, AJ, Reigns, Braun, Balor, Joe, and so on. They’ll change the format or drop the ceremony long before they ever run out of names to induct. So basically induct the whole roster history of everyone who's wrestled in WWE. Ok, at least we're clear about that.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Apr 19, 2019 20:35:16 GMT -5
Pretty much. There are literally hundreds of wrestlers in the WWE’s history to get through. The only issue will be headliners, and I’ve just given a list of about fifteen of those. There are tons more too- the likes of Miz, Bryan, even Punk will kiss and make up at some point. And by the time the current old guys are done, there’ll be Becky, Charlotte, Rousey, Rollins, AJ, Reigns, Braun, Balor, Joe, and so on. They’ll change the format or drop the ceremony long before they ever run out of names to induct. So basically induct the whole roster history of everyone who's wrestled in WWE. Ok, at least we're clear about that. Or at least all of the top guys. It might suit your fantasy to imagine that they’re gonna run out of names, but they’re really not. There are literally hundreds of viable candidates still, and plenty who can go in twice as teams/factions. Evolution will go in. The Shield will go in. Both of those groups are headliners too, as are HHH, Batista, Orton, Reigns and Rollins as individuals. You will have grown out of making bad, tg11-esque threads long before WWE has an empty Hall of Fame class.
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Post by LK3 on Apr 19, 2019 22:22:34 GMT -5
Roman Reigns will go in as a singles competitor and a faction member just you wait and see. Um, yeah. Why wouldn’t he?
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Post by BØRNS on Apr 20, 2019 0:28:35 GMT -5
So basically induct the whole roster history of everyone who's wrestled in WWE. Ok, at least we're clear about that. Or at least all of the top guys. It might suit your fantasy to imagine that they’re gonna run out of names, but they’re really not. There are literally hundreds of viable candidates still, and plenty who can go in twice as teams/factions. Evolution will go in. The Shield will go in. Both of those groups are headliners too, as are HHH, Batista, Orton, Reigns and Rollins as individuals. You will have grown out of making bad, tg11-esque threads long before WWE has an empty Hall of Fame class. You REALLY think there are HUNDREDS of people worthy to induct to the HOF? The bulk of retired WWF wrestlers are already in the HOF, from lower carders to main eventers. Let me ask you this - who shouldn't be inducted aside from he who shall not be named? The facts are the facts, you induct 13 people each year, that's not sustainable, unless you can pull wrestlers out of your ass. You wanna insult me? Maybe you don't have the mental scope to think longterm into the future. This isn't my own idea, lots of talk about this has been going on. And I don't know who you're trying to compare me to, but if you insist... What a troll. Here I am making a thoughtful thread for conversation which this board is clearly lacking.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Apr 20, 2019 3:05:32 GMT -5
Roman Reigns will go in as a singles competitor and a faction member just you wait and see. He could even go in as a Warrior Award winner Now that is a good idea. His fight outside the ring to me far overshadows his fights in it. That takes some next level kind of determination and positivity.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Apr 20, 2019 3:28:04 GMT -5
Or at least all of the top guys. It might suit your fantasy to imagine that they’re gonna run out of names, but they’re really not. There are literally hundreds of viable candidates still, and plenty who can go in twice as teams/factions. Evolution will go in. The Shield will go in. Both of those groups are headliners too, as are HHH, Batista, Orton, Reigns and Rollins as individuals. You will have grown out of making bad, tg11-esque threads long before WWE has an empty Hall of Fame class. You REALLY think there are HUNDREDS of people worthy to induct to the HOF? Easily - this is a Hall of Fame that Koko B Ware, Ivory and Johnny Rodz are in. It's clear from your threads that you haven't been a fan very long, but over the last century or so, a LOT of people have made a living as pro wrestlers on this planet. The majority of them are not in the WWE Hall of Fame. Here are about a hundred inductees, give or take a few in case any duplication or guys already in the HoF: Undertaker John Cena Brock Lesnar The Rock Triple H Batista Randy Orton Daniel Bryan The Big Show CM Punk Seth Rollins Roman Reigns The Shield Evolution Vince McMahon Stephanie McMahon Shane McMahon The nWo Jeff Hardy Hardy Boyz Kane Chris Jericho Ronda Rousey Charlotte Flair Becky Lynch Rob Van Dam Rey Mysterio AJ Styles Christian Edge & Christian Matt Hardy Dean Ambrose Dolph Ziggler Great Khali Sycho Sid Justice Virgil Dean Malenko Perry Saturn Crush British Bulldog JBL The APA Sable The Rockers Sheamus Tommy Dreamer The Miz Kevin Owens Earthquake Typhoon Nasty Boys IRS Rick Martel Rhyno Nexus Savio Vega Candice Michelle Debra Terri Runnels Goldust Haku Paul Heyman Eric Bischoff Michael Cole Lilian Garcia Lex Luger Steiner Brothers Big Poppa Pump Headshrinkers Hornswoggle Tatanka Mabel/Viscera Smokin' Gunns Doink the Clown Hardcore Holly Al Snow Brooklyn Brawler Bam Bam Bigelow D'Lo Brown The Nation of Domination Billy Kidman William Regal Tajiri Vader Mickie James Alicia Fox Natalya Naomi Alexa Bliss Ken Shamrock Crash Holly Val Venis Scotty Too Hotty/Too Cool Tazz Finn Balor Shinsuke Nakamura Samoa Joe Taka Michinoku Paige Lance Storm And that's without even going in depth on the WWE rosters over the years, or scratching the surface of WCW or Japan much.
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Post by BØRNS on Apr 20, 2019 5:17:02 GMT -5
You REALLY think there are HUNDREDS of people worthy to induct to the HOF? Easily - this is a Hall of Fame that Koko B Ware, Ivory and Johnny Rodz are in. It's clear from your threads that you haven't been a fan very long, but over the last century or so, a LOT of people have made a living as pro wrestlers on this planet. The majority of them are not in the WWE Hall of Fame. Here are about a hundred inductees, give or take a few in case any duplication or guys already in the HoF: Undertaker John Cena Brock Lesnar The Rock Triple H Batista Randy Orton Daniel Bryan The Big Show CM Punk Seth Rollins Roman Reigns The Shield Evolution Vince McMahon Stephanie McMahon Shane McMahon The nWo Jeff Hardy Hardy Boyz Kane Chris Jericho Ronda Rousey Charlotte Flair Becky Lynch Rob Van Dam Rey Mysterio AJ Styles Christian Edge & Christian Matt Hardy Dean Ambrose Dolph Ziggler Great Khali Sycho Sid Justice Virgil Dean Malenko Perry Saturn Crush British Bulldog JBL The APA Sable The Rockers Sheamus Tommy Dreamer The Miz Kevin Owens Earthquake Typhoon Nasty Boys IRS Rick Martel Rhyno Nexus Savio Vega Candice Michelle Debra Terri Runnels Goldust Haku Paul Heyman Eric Bischoff Michael Cole Lilian Garcia Lex Luger Steiner Brothers Big Poppa Pump Headshrinkers Hornswoggle Tatanka Mabel/Viscera Smokin' Gunns Doink the Clown Hardcore Holly Al Snow Brooklyn Brawler Bam Bam Bigelow D'Lo Brown The Nation of Domination Billy Kidman William Regal Tajiri Vader Mickie James Alicia Fox Natalya Naomi Alexa Bliss Ken Shamrock Crash Holly Val Venis Scotty Too Hotty/Too Cool Tazz Finn Balor Shinsuke Nakamura Samoa Joe Taka Michinoku Paige Lance Storm And that's without even going in depth on the WWE rosters over the years, or scratching the surface of WCW or Japan much. Dude you're clearly not getting it. Half those on the list are active performers. What are you going to propose next? Induct NXT? Oh wait, you want to induct Nexus, half of which fizzled into being jobbers. Whatever man, go ahead and play pretend booking a HOF class, or maybe an episode of Velocity while you're at it. Even if you induct half the current roster (which you listed) that'd get us through only about 6 or 7 years into the future. Then what? That's the point, that's what I'm getting at. I'm not the only one who sees a conflict here. And I'm well aware of the history of the industry, you can stop with the patronizing. All you do is troll threads, why don't propose something to discuss in a thread instead of complaining and being a dick to me?
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Post by LK3 on Apr 20, 2019 5:35:06 GMT -5
It’ll work out either way. They’ll manage the normal classes for quite a while, but if they ever are really thin on inductees then maybe they can scrap an entire night dedicated to it and find a different way to do it. I don’t really think it’ll be an issue, but I also don’t really care. Too many people are in that shouldn’t be if you’re taking the HOF seriously, so they’ll be plenty more I’m sure.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Apr 20, 2019 5:42:39 GMT -5
Dude you're clearly not getting it. Half those on the list are active performers. You seem to struggle to understand the concept of time, which would explain why you have created a thread like this. I'll try to explain it in a way that you can understand: The current roster wrestlers are going to age and retire. In fifteen years, Seth Rollins will not look and move the same way he does now. At that point, the current generation will largely be retired or seeing out the end of their careers, and there will be lots of new active performers. Wrestling hasn't stopped. The list of candidates for Hall of Fame entry is not finite. The Hall of Fame is not going to have a rule that wrestlers who were still active in 2019 can never be inducted. There will be wrestlers going into the Hall of Fame in 10, 20, 30 years and beyond who have not debuted yet. There are jobbers in the Hall of Fame. Look at the wrestlers who are in it. Take the time to learn about the product before creating bad threads like this. -Complains that WWE is going to run out of people for the Hall of Fame. -Complains when given a list that demonstrates that isn't the case.
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 20, 2019 5:56:11 GMT -5
Nothing says they have to keep it to a certain amount of inductees either. They could always just induct only the NWO one year and do an entire retrospective on the history of the stable with speeches by the biggest names. That's an entire show right there. Look at the celebrity wing. They put Rose in in 04, skipped 05, Fridge in 06, then skipped 07-09, and then did inductions every year from 10-16, skipped 17, Kid Rock in 18, and skipped it again this year. Celebrity wing should be done all together. Since we can’t eliminate the wing despite some of its unsavory inductees, I say they induct Cyndi Lauper in 2020 then let that wing retire. It’s a slap in the face that the Celebrity spot gets an induction segment each year yet the Legacy gets a snippet. I know, realistically, the Legacy inductees wouldn’t pack seats. It would probably be a bit of a bore to watch someone induct them. However, if any more celebs go in they should get a snippet package like the Legacy. The legacy wing are people that are dead. I really dont wanna hear someones widow's son thank the WWE Universe for inducting their dad that they never knew into a Hall of Fame that doesnt exist.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Apr 20, 2019 8:25:52 GMT -5
Celebrity wing should be done all together. Since we can’t eliminate the wing despite some of its unsavory inductees, I say they induct Cyndi Lauper in 2020 then let that wing retire. It’s a slap in the face that the Celebrity spot gets an induction segment each year yet the Legacy gets a snippet. I know, realistically, the Legacy inductees wouldn’t pack seats. It would probably be a bit of a bore to watch someone induct them. However, if any more celebs go in they should get a snippet package like the Legacy. The legacy wing are people that are dead. I really dont wanna hear someones widow's son thank the WWE Universe for inducting their dad that they never knew into a Hall of Fame that doesnt exist. Not all of them are dead. If you don’t like who’s accepting the induction, don’t watch 😉
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 20, 2019 9:15:26 GMT -5
The legacy wing are people that are dead. I really dont wanna hear someones widow's son thank the WWE Universe for inducting their dad that they never knew into a Hall of Fame that doesnt exist. Not all of them are dead. If you don’t like who’s accepting the induction, don’t watch 😉 Hisashi Shinma is literally the only one still alive. He's 84 living in Japan so I doubt he wants to fly in for a speech to people who mostly have no idea who he is. And the latter part can be said for the celebrity wing. If you dont want to see them inducted, dont watch. Mr. T, Donald Trump, Mike Tyson, Pete Rose & Bob Uecker have had more of an impact on modern wrestling, Wrestlemania specifically, then Rufus R. Jones & Martin Burns.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Apr 20, 2019 17:44:39 GMT -5
The good thing is legitimacy doesnt matter like it would in most HoFs. Hawkins will get in one day for his historic losing streak and miraculous wrestlemania upset of the tag champs. Carmella will get in on being the 1st (and 2nd) womens mitb winner. Any small accomplishment will he celebrated until there literally isnt a single name left.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 20, 2019 19:50:11 GMT -5
The argument in this thread sucks, because it hinges on there being a standard of worthiness to be inducted, which doesn't exist.
As long as there are former talents, the WWE will not want for names to put in its hall of fame.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Apr 20, 2019 20:00:55 GMT -5
The argument in this thread sucks, because it hinges on there being a standard of worthiness to be inducted, which doesn't exist. As long as there are former talents, the WWE will not want for names to put in its hall of fame. Once again I’ll have to agree. There are a lot of hard workers last and present. To hold them to certain standards kind of makes it seem like their contributions are worthless. We also have to remember that there are and have been talents that never made it big despite their work....then you have Sunny who just poos on the entire thing 😂 jk jk....sort of
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