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Post by The Brain on Apr 25, 2019 18:01:10 GMT -5
Even though the Austin/McMahon feud is iconic I still wish Vince lasted a little while longer in the booth as I really enjoyed the team of him,JR and King during 97.
The seeds were planted in MSG when he got stunned and they pretty much said yeah he's the owner so the question to you humanoids is how do you think he would've transitioned from the booth to the evil boss if the Montreal incident never happened? |
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Apr 25, 2019 18:34:50 GMT -5
I say he would've been fully outed during the build to Mania 14. Probably when Austin confronts Tyson. The whole "YOU WRECKED IT!" could really be a jumping off point for the character. Up until that point, Vince could have portrayed the Poindexter victim he was at the time. Austin wrecking Tyson's initial appearance, followed by Tyson joining Austin really could have pushed him over the edge. From there the struggle to make Austin a "corporate champion" could have really fleshed it out, which to me is the key to the Austin/Vince feud.
Then again, that may have given him too much of a sympathetic side to the character.
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Post by The Brain on Apr 25, 2019 18:51:10 GMT -5
I say he would've been fully outed during the build to Mania 14. Probably when Austin confronts Tyson. The whole "YOU WRECKED IT!" could really be a jumping off point for the character. Up until that point, Vince could have portrayed the Poindexter victim he was at the time. Austin wrecking Tyson's initial appearance, followed by Tyson joining Austin really could have pushed him over the edge. From there the struggle to make Austin a "corporate champion" could have really fleshed it out, which to me is the key to the Austin/Vince feud. Then again, that may have given him too much of a sympathetic side to the character. Yeah I can see him finally snapping over the Tyson incident. Man just imagine him going off in the booth which leads to his breaking point. Must see TV right there.
It definitely seems like that's where they were going if the screwjob never happened. With all the stuff that was happening in his company between HBK/Bret, DX's antics plus you add in Austin raising hell and you got your self an implosion kayfabe wise which would lead to the character being born.
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Post by nibs92 on Apr 27, 2019 12:17:56 GMT -5
In all honesty, without the Montreal Screwjob think that McMahon would have evolved into a Jack Tunney Style president role at best. He would have been booed for certain decisions but don’t think he would have drawn even a fraction of the heat the real version did.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Apr 27, 2019 12:59:42 GMT -5
In all honesty, without the Montreal Screwjob think that McMahon would have evolved into a Jack Tunney Style president role at best. He would have been booed for certain decisions but don’t think he would have drawn even a fraction of the heat the real version did. I can see that too. It is important to note though that Vince always wanted to play a bad guy wrestler. I like to think he'd be heavily tempted into playing a heel regardless of the screwjob. You're right though, the screwjob really did get him more heat than he could have gotten without it. |
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Post by nibs92 on Apr 27, 2019 14:06:15 GMT -5
In all honesty, without the Montreal Screwjob think that McMahon would have evolved into a Jack Tunney Style president role at best. He would have been booed for certain decisions but don’t think he would have drawn even a fraction of the heat the real version did. I can see that too. It is important to note though that Vince always wanted to play a bad guy wrestler. I like to think he'd be heavily tempted into playing a heel regardless of the screwjob. You're right though, the screwjob really did get him more heat than he could have gotten without it. Yeah totally, the real life situation set the platform for the McMahon character perfectly. Without that there would have been no real reason for him t go full blown heel. As awesome as the Stone Cold character was, I don’t think McMahon going after him for the Tyson incident would be enough to make him a full blown heel. |
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Apr 27, 2019 14:25:31 GMT -5
I can see that too. It is important to note though that Vince always wanted to play a bad guy wrestler. I like to think he'd be heavily tempted into playing a heel regardless of the screwjob. You're right though, the screwjob really did get him more heat than he could have gotten without it. Yeah totally, the real life situation set the platform for the McMahon character perfectly. Without that there would have been no real reason for him t go full blown heel. As awesome as the Stone Cold character was, I don’t think McMahon going after him for the Tyson incident would be enough to make him a full blown heel. The key to the feud with Austin to me is the fact that McMahon couldn't have him chugging beer, assaulting officials and flipping off the crowd, but also couldn't outright fire him due to his popularity. I think McMahon realistically wanting Austin to change is enough to get him booed. Though without the screwjob kickstart it would not have been as strong. |
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Post by The Brain on Apr 27, 2019 15:29:53 GMT -5
If you recall during that segment in MSG before he got stunned, He told Austin he has to ''work within the system''. Then a month later during that segment where Austin has to sign a release form Vince is like ''you wanna play hardball? that's fine''.
Have Austin keep raising hell every week until he finally snaps. He leaves the booth one week then the next week he comes out in a suit and cuts a heel promo on the crowd for cheering a rebel like Austin. Without the screwjob vehicle to kick it off yeah it would've been tough but I think they could've pulled it off.
*edit* Here's the hardball segment. Vince acts heelish heel. This is really where they could've kickstarted it. |
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Post by Kill Em' All on Apr 28, 2019 10:01:24 GMT -5
One of the greatest characters in pro wrestling history
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Post by JokerFC on May 3, 2019 19:21:39 GMT -5
MANY have said that the Mr McMahon character was a happy accident that Vince himself did not want to embrace post SS97. He genuinely felt that the fans would support him about Bret.
His interactions with Austin pre Survivor Series were strictly to keep him on TV with apparently no long term plan...
in any case I was delighted to have him off announcing....one of the best feuds ever. Made him a bona fide billionaire.
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Post by The Brain on May 3, 2019 19:41:04 GMT -5
MANY have said that the Mr McMahon character was a happy accident that Vince himself did not want to embrace post SS97. He genuinely felt that the fans would support him about Bret. His interactions with Austin pre Survivor Series were strictly to keep him on TV with apparently no long term plan... in any case I was delighted to have him off announcing....one of the best feuds ever. Made him a bona fide billionaire. I always knew Vince had it in him to be a heel by his work in Memphis circa 93.
And yeah the feud with Austin was gold. Especially that 1st year.
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