rudos
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Post by rudos on May 2, 2019 3:28:48 GMT -5
So picking the promo apart a bit, here's what i got from it. - Days scratched into the wall of his cell, counting the days he's got left in WWE. - Pacing around the cell, showing him losing his mind there, also contemplating whether he wants to break out/leave or not. - Breaking out of the 'prison' being WWE, but also, breaking through the 'ARCHITECT-ure' meaning he's breaking through/past Seth Rollins. - Being chased by the dog, after getting past Rollins, now 'The Big Dog' Roman Reigns is chasing him down, to keep him there. Also, the dog is used as part of the prison, so it's a 'Hound of Justice' - The barbed wire on the fence, with it being on the outside/edge, you could say he had to leave it there just like the majority of 'hardcore' style wrestling has been left out of WWE, leave his true self there before entering the WWE, now that he's breaking out, he's ripping the wire off, taking it back, becoming himself again. - The shots of him training, saying that he's now got the motivation to start training hard again, now that he isn't held down the stress of WWE. - Walking past the dice on the wall, dice are a symbol of Vegas, the numbers facing up were 2 & 5 to show 25, the date of Double or Nothing, held in Vegas. Either a hint or a troll. - The blood dripping, with the shattered glass and barbed wire, representing his deathmatch days, also a symbol of CZW. Then it cuts to him, so you could say he's broken out of WWE, he's walked the streets, past every option (including the dice to represent AEW) before finally ending up back in CZW. Dude, you are overanalyzing it way too much. Pretty sure it's just a cool prison/asylum escape scene made with dramatic effect.
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Post by tylerbreezee on May 2, 2019 6:39:32 GMT -5
Give Me Mox vs Gage at Tournament of Survival. It’s WAYY to much production value to be a smaller indie fed, even one with some name recognition like ROH, CZW, etc. The only companies who would have the money to do something like this are WWE, Impact, NJPW (Highly doubtful because of Renee), and AEW. I’m not saying smaller companies can’t produce stuff like this, but they make no profit from this video. It’s not a part of their show and nor does it advertise their company so it wouldn’t make sense to spend like $10,000 at the minimum to make this trailer GCW Usually had good video production, but then Giancarlo Dittamo left for WWE. That’s advertised for their company though therefore they make a profit at the end of the day when people come to see that guy wrestle. This Ambrose one doesn’t advertise him for any sort of company so I’m saying, it’s doubtful a smaller fed would spend all that money to not have it say that he’s gonna be at their shows
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Post by rowdy1971 on May 2, 2019 9:27:02 GMT -5
If I had a wrestling buddy i would show you! I have no problem with someone wanting to try out different avenues and whatnot. If this was Tyler Breeze doing a video like this, I would applaud him because he is/was grossly misused in the WWE. (does he even work there anymore?) Ambrose broke through and achieved a lot more then a guy like him would ever get 15 years ago. He had great programs, did he ever have one that was stale? He was on top as World champion, etc. But to imply he was in "prison" is very laughable. If he wanted to be all hardcore and bleed all over the place well I'm sorry, this is the way wrestling is going now. If he signs with AEW or whatever, I doubt he'll be doing extreme hardcore matches, again, that's if what he wants to do. Name me one other worker on their way out that was given the send off that Ambrose got? You really can't. So yes, Ambrose is ungrateful. So let's see where is "CRAZYYYYYYYYYYY GUY!" gimmick lands him. Someone IMPLIED that the prison meant that. He never stated anywhere that that was the meaning of it. This whole video is open for interpretation, yet you took one person's interpretation of it and ran with it as absolute fact and bashed the living bejesus out of him for making this video. Dude...Wooosaaaaahhh! It could mean he's breaking out of the "Ambrose Asylum" and heading back as Jon Moxley for either WWE or AEW. It's really his choice. He fulfilled his contract with the company and did what they asked him to as far as we know. If he goes to AEW, why is he such a horrible person and why does he deserve such venom? He doesn't. He's not trashing WWE, he's promoting himself. And WHAT IF...What if he's going back to WWE? Then you're going to feel downright foolish. LOL. trust me i won't. I personally hope we never see Ambrose, Moxlie, or whatever he wants to call himself.
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Post by alanpartridge on May 3, 2019 8:49:05 GMT -5
Nice. Hopefully he gains some momentum.
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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on May 3, 2019 11:06:43 GMT -5
He’s not in wwe this should not be in this board.
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Post by The American Daydream on May 3, 2019 12:54:35 GMT -5
He’s not in wwe this should not be in this board. [insert technically he's right ya know meme]
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Post by marino13 on May 3, 2019 17:13:30 GMT -5
He’s not in wwe this should not be in this board. He JUST left, so I'm letting it slide... for now.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on May 4, 2019 12:38:26 GMT -5
MOXLEY back to CZW confirmed!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 19:25:02 GMT -5
Is it possible he left because they ruined the heel turn? On the night Roman announced his cancer came back, Ambrose turns on Rollins which was great, but then they ruined it after. Did Ambrose even say why he turned? The following week he was quiet, I believe they only had 1 ppv match, and then they turned Ambrose into a germephobe or something like that?
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on May 4, 2019 20:45:46 GMT -5
I don’t know what the video means or anything but it is pretty cool
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 5, 2019 3:57:58 GMT -5
I'm not going to make another Ambrose thread so I'll just post this here:
What do you do think of the conspiracy theory that WWE is behind all of this and Dean is actually still working for them?
Bully Ray seems to think that they could bring him back and repackage him as Jon Moxley. I personally think it's insane. They invested far too much into Dean Ambrose to try to get everyone to accept him as a different character. Plus I don't see what they get from sending him to the indies. Everyone there is already aware of WWE, the only thing that could potentially accomplish is them making the more casual fans aware of the whole universe of wrestling outside of WWE. It would explain the big budget video though.
But then again, crazier things have happened.
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Sting
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Post by Sting on May 5, 2019 8:34:54 GMT -5
I don’t know what the video means or anything but it is pretty cool lmao i'm with you there
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Post by cordless2016 on May 5, 2019 8:39:08 GMT -5
Is it possible he left because they ruined the heel turn? On the night Roman announced his cancer came back, Ambrose turns on Rollins which was great, but then they ruined it after. Did Ambrose even say why he turned? The following week he was quiet, I believe they only had 1 ppv match, and then they turned Ambrose into a germephobe or something like that? I think that had a lot to do with it. Seth said in an interview before WM that they didn’t want to go through with the heel turn the same night Roman had made his announcement. Dean’s a company man so he went along with it, but Seth constantly saying “it’s alright” during the turn makes more sense after hearing that. I think from there it just got worse with the whole “germaphobe” gimmick. It’s sad considering when he returned last year he looked rejuvenated, physically his best since 2014, and rumors were that he’d face Roman at WM. I think the botched heel turn was the last straw in a long line of creative botches surrounding his character. Crazy how much can change in 6 months.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 11:05:12 GMT -5
He's been pretty much a midcarder since losing the title to AJ in 2016. Upper midcard at best.
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Post by TheChamp420 on May 5, 2019 12:47:52 GMT -5
That seemed so fresh, while I wish he stayed in wwe, because I pretty much only watch wwe, maybe where ever he goes will bring me in as a new fan.
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Post by snowjorden on May 11, 2019 0:24:44 GMT -5
If Ambrose doesn’t show up on Raw next week, I owe whoever likes this a buck 😂 wheres my dollar FUSamBaker 😂😂
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Post by k5 on May 11, 2019 0:35:39 GMT -5
I'm not going to make another Ambrose thread so I'll just post this here: What do you do think of the conspiracy theory that WWE is behind all of this and Dean is actually still working for them? Bully Ray seems to think that they could bring him back and repackage him as Jon Moxley. I personally think it's insane. They invested far too much into Dean Ambrose to try to get everyone to accept him as a different character. Plus I don't see what they get from sending him to the indies. Everyone there is already aware of WWE, the only thing that could potentially accomplish is them making the more casual fans aware of the whole universe of wrestling outside of WWE. It would explain the big budget video though. But then again, crazier things have happened. yeah I just cannot see that being the case. crowd would only be more confused than anything.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on May 11, 2019 1:37:40 GMT -5
So picking the promo apart a bit, here's what i got from it. - Days scratched into the wall of his cell, counting the days he's got left in WWE. - Pacing around the cell, showing him losing his mind there, also contemplating whether he wants to break out/leave or not. - Breaking out of the 'prison' being WWE, but also, breaking through the 'ARCHITECT-ure' meaning he's breaking through/past Seth Rollins. - Being chased by the dog, after getting past Rollins, now 'The Big Dog' Roman Reigns is chasing him down, to keep him there. Also, the dog is used as part of the prison, so it's a 'Hound of Justice' - The barbed wire on the fence, with it being on the outside/edge, you could say he had to leave it there just like the majority of 'hardcore' style wrestling has been left out of WWE, leave his true self there before entering the WWE, now that he's breaking out, he's ripping the wire off, taking it back, becoming himself again. - The shots of him training, saying that he's now got the motivation to start training hard again, now that he isn't held down the stress of WWE. - Walking past the dice on the wall, dice are a symbol of Vegas, the numbers facing up were 2 & 5 to show 25, the date of Double or Nothing, held in Vegas. Either a hint or a troll. - The blood dripping, with the shattered glass and barbed wire, representing his deathmatch days, also a symbol of CZW. Then it cuts to him, so you could say he's broken out of WWE, he's walked the streets, past every option (including the dice to represent AEW) before finally ending up back in CZW. *Stares admiringly in English Major*
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venusflytyr
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Post by venusflytyr on May 11, 2019 1:55:21 GMT -5
Dean doing the "huh? What? I don't recall that..." Could be a hint/red herring, so...if he comes back under another name, and on commentary the ask Renee, "Isn't that your husband?" and she goes "NO! I don't know that man! Thant man is not my husband!" and then they could insinuate that stuff for a while until you just get it. He could have pushed for he idea and said, "I am not going to stay in WWE if I cannot do this, so if you want me, you have to try this, and if it doesn't work, I will quit/be ok with being released"etc.
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 11, 2019 2:45:20 GMT -5
I'm not going to make another Ambrose thread so I'll just post this here: What do you do think of the conspiracy theory that WWE is behind all of this and Dean is actually still working for them? Bully Ray seems to think that they could bring him back and repackage him as Jon Moxley. I personally think it's insane. They invested far too much into Dean Ambrose to try to get everyone to accept him as a different character. Plus I don't see what they get from sending him to the indies. Everyone there is already aware of WWE, the only thing that could potentially accomplish is them making the more casual fans aware of the whole universe of wrestling outside of WWE. It would explain the big budget video though. But then again, crazier things have happened. yeah I just cannot see that being the case. crowd would only be more confused than anything. It would be one of the worst things they could possibly do. Unless they would bring Ambrose back just to bury him with some nonsense gimmick.
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