RedDevil
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Post by RedDevil on Jun 16, 2019 13:46:03 GMT -5
I still don't understand why Mattel don't just reduce an existing Elite or Basic head design to Retro portions and go with that - it must be cheaper than starting a new design from scratch and ending-up with the HBK and Diesel heads. I know some Hasbro fans want the "cartoony" look, but I'd always go for the best likeness of 2019 rather than a faux-1991 design. Mattel really should've invested in detailing the singlet top onto Braun since they were reusing the Brock chest anyway (great spot showbizpizzabear81 ) - it would've made both Braun and Diesel look a lot better, with other guys still to come for them to get some use out of the investment. Quick question about Elias' guitar: has that been used in the other lines before this? The photo makes it look like they spent a bit of money designing it to be breakable, which doesn't seem to fit with the cheapness of the usual Retro production. That would be the look I'd like if they made a second Retro Diesel at some point. They could probably reuse the legs for several different actions to make the figures different. I'd like to see the evolution of Nash in Retro form to go something like: 1. Series 10 Diesel, since we're already there. 2. Big Daddy Cool Diesel - Elite 16 head and design; use the Roman punch action with new singlet-detailed chest and back, call the move something like: The Diesel Punch!/The Diesel Pounder!/The Big Daddy Bash! (I'm not good at these...) 3. Fake Diesel - re-release the series 10 figure exactly like it is on a Glenn Jacobs card (maybe change the top to "Diesel Power" so there's some difference) - a good Ringside or SDCC exclusive option? 4. Wolfpac Kevin Nash - red outfit and head like Elite 16 Nash, maybe with a matching Outsiders Hall; use the Brock upper-body gorilla press action (with detailed singlet top added), call it: Snake Eyes! 5. Post-WCW Nash - not sure if Mattel have made a figure of his retirement run in 2011, but if not then use the Ringside Exclusive head and design; clothesline action called something like: The Nash Annihilator! or whatever, I can't really remember his nicknames during this time. Since Mattel are obviously reading this idiocy: feel free to use all of this obviously brilliant nonsense, or not - I just want more Retro figures released. Now about series 11... The breakable guitar also came with the create a superstar rocker character; I had hoped this would be the guitar they would use. Thanks; I thought that must be the case. Great to have a breakable guitar with these guys, really like that feature. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 16, 2019 14:02:40 GMT -5
Anyone willing to swap some Diesel/Nash heads onto the Retro and take some pictures? I think I’m going to use the ponytail head on one but I’m curious on the fit.
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Post by Da Handsome 1 on Jun 16, 2019 17:32:52 GMT -5
Gave in & just purchased the set. Hopefully Retro 10 & Elite 69 will arrive around the same time. 🤞
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 17, 2019 0:30:33 GMT -5
While not looking through the rose colored glasses of nostalgia these figures look pretty bad. The best part is the card. Diesel is the only retro I’ve ever pre ordered and I just ordered it because it was Diesel. The original Hasbro figures were light years ahead of these. In agreement on that. I think the first 2 sets had some greatly done figures minus Warrior who I think just looks like hot garbage compared to his Hasbros. I actually really like the Retro Ultimate Warrior! (...I prefer him to the first Hasbro version):  |
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Post by showbizpizzabear81 on Jun 17, 2019 12:13:02 GMT -5
Anyone willing to swap some Diesel/Nash heads onto the Retro and take some pictures? I think I’m going to use the ponytail head on one but I’m curious on the fit. I will. I bought five Diesel's for this reason lol. I have a 1995 WWF Champ Diesel head, and a Wolfpac era Nash head. |
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Post by The Madness on Jun 17, 2019 12:22:51 GMT -5
I'm curious to see how that old bootleg Mannix head might look on Diesel.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 17, 2019 14:09:08 GMT -5
In agreement on that. I think the first 2 sets had some greatly done figures minus Warrior who I think just looks like hot garbage compared to his Hasbros. I actually really like the Retro Ultimate Warrior! (...I prefer him to the first Hasbro version): I totally agree. The Mattel Retro version is 100x better than his 1st Hasbro. |
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 17, 2019 14:11:48 GMT -5
Gave in & just purchased the set. Hopefully Retro 10 & Elite 69 will arrive around the same time. 🤞 Probably will at this point. I ordered Retro 10 on Thursday and it STILL hasn't been shipped. Guess they can't keep up with distribution. Elite 69 is awesome! 1st ever elite set to be released that I actually want the entire set. Cant wait. Might order a couple and wait for the rest to hit stores. |
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Jun 17, 2019 14:15:28 GMT -5
In agreement on that. I think the first 2 sets had some greatly done figures minus Warrior who I think just looks like hot garbage compared to his Hasbros. I actually really like the Retro Ultimate Warrior! (...I prefer him to the first Hasbro version): I like the original better. I think the mattel one would have benefited from not being the same colors as the hasbro. The mattel release also doesn't even have the warrior logo on the back of his tights. Lazy. |
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 17, 2019 14:19:56 GMT -5
Cool set, but that JYD should have come with his collar and chain. It just seems like kind of a no brainer, but I guess not... Totally agree. I was actually expecting it to come with at least a chain. It's not the same without one, in fact, when I first saw the JYD I didn't recognize it at first without his chain. |
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 17, 2019 15:52:54 GMT -5
I actually really like the Retro Ultimate Warrior! (...I prefer him to the first Hasbro version): I like the original better. I think the mattel one would have benefited from not being the same colors as the hasbro. The mattel release also doesn't even have the warrior logo on the back of his tights. Lazy. I agree, the mattel version looks lazy. The detail on the wristband, tassels, torso, arms and legs from hasbro is much better. |
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jun 17, 2019 17:54:49 GMT -5
I like the original better. I think the mattel one would have benefited from not being the same colors as the hasbro. The mattel release also doesn't even have the warrior logo on the back of his tights. Lazy. I agree, the mattel version looks lazy. The detail on the wristband, tassels, torso, arms and legs from hasbro is much better. I was never crazy about Hasbro Warrior #1, but IMO it's still way better than the retro. Guess it wouldn't have been so bad if they'd at least chosen an attire Hasbro hasn't already done. |
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Jun 17, 2019 18:07:28 GMT -5
I prefer the Hasbro Warrior as well. If the retro had a better head than maybe.
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Post by Da Handsome 1 on Jun 17, 2019 18:51:34 GMT -5
IMO the retro sets can’t even compare to the original hasbro sets. Just a nice callback to my childhood though. I own all the retro figs.
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Post by The Madness on Jun 17, 2019 20:57:00 GMT -5
The Hasbro Warrior is tons better, if only on account of having an entirely unique mold for every piece. The Mattel one is nowhere near as detailed.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 17, 2019 22:10:55 GMT -5
I guess I'm in the minority, lol. I just prefer the body and overall look of the Mattel Retro Warrior (to the Hasbro/jumper Warrior). I also prefer the Retro's face-paint and loose (not molded) arm tassels. Each to their own though... I'll get me coat.  |
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jun 17, 2019 23:49:36 GMT -5
Anyone willing to swap some Diesel/Nash heads onto the Retro and take some pictures? I think I’m going to use the ponytail head on one but I’m curious on the fit. I bought an extra with this in mind. Should be getting it Wednesday or Thursday. I’ll post pics when I can. |
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