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Post by Chip on Jun 15, 2019 9:42:58 GMT -5
i mean its not impossible for a large company to things up and go under. i think the biggest problem here is that all these toy companies just make TOO MUCH crap because they are focused on churning out new products every month to hit their "numbers" and in doing so they dont make enough of the things people WANT and too much of things that nobody wants. this is what happens when you have corporate college degree suits sitting in conference rooms making decisions instead of people who care about toys. i think thats the point this guy is trying to make its kind of like the WWE hiring sitcom writers to script wrestling promos and storylines. i dont understand why companies think its ok to just throw anyone on anything because they have some form of education or qualification in another area. it'd be like having a guy who went to school studying to be a dentist working on your car in an auto repair shop because he used to change his own oil in his driveway years ago.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 15, 2019 9:45:42 GMT -5
i mean its not impossible for a large company to things up and go under. i think the biggest problem here is that all these toy companies just make TOO MUCH crap because they are focused on churning out new products every month to hit their "numbers" and in doing so they dont make enough of the things people WANT and too much of things that nobody wants. this is what happens when you have corporate college degree suits sitting in conference rooms making decisions instead of people who care about toys. i think thats the point this guy is trying to make its kind of like the WWE hiring sitcom writers to script wrestling promos and storylines. i dont understand why companies think its ok to just throw anyone on anything because they have some form of education or qualification in another area. it'd be like having a guy who went to school studying to be a dentist working on your car in an auto repair shop because he used to change his own oil in his driveway years ago. It’s the same problem facing video games: shareholders expect infinite growth even if the number they expect is physically impossible
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Post by JC Motors on Jun 15, 2019 10:34:17 GMT -5
With the in take they get from hot wheels alone that isn’t gonna happen no need for this thread. Exactly. Hot Wheels and Matchbox rake in tons of money for Mattel
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 15, 2019 20:38:54 GMT -5
We cant take this seriously, without knowing the backstory.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 15, 2019 20:47:49 GMT -5
With the in take they get from hot wheels alone that isn’t gonna happen no need for this thread. Exactly. Hot Wheels and Matchbox rake in tons of money for Mattel I was going to comment about dollar cars not being enough to sustain a toy company. But first I wanted to check to see how long Hotwheel had been around. So I used my Google machine. And I just found something out. Mattel owns Feld entertainment...... feld, which is Monster Jam...... so why did Mattel give that toy license to Spin Master?
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Post by stc13 on Jun 15, 2019 20:59:30 GMT -5
We cant take this seriously, without knowing the backstory. There's a lot of backstory. Larian is the founder of Bratz, and has a longstanding beef with Mattel that included a years long lawsuit. He also was the guy who said he wanted to buy TRU and keep it open. He's eccentric, rich, and does sound passionate about toys. But from what I've seen he has a history of making lowball offers and then running to the press when he doesn't get his way. Things haven't been pretty for Mattel over the last few years, they are definitely up against the ropes. But they also put an aggressive cost-cutting plan in place last year that could stabilize things for 2019. They're still working at an operating loss, but far less than where they were. But it could be too little too late. So as with most things, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.
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Post by Halloween King on Jun 15, 2019 21:11:50 GMT -5
We cant take this seriously, without knowing the backstory. There's a lot of backstory. Larian is the founder of Bratz, and has a longstanding beef with Mattel that included a years long lawsuit. He also was the guy who said he wanted to buy TRU and keep it open. He's eccentric, rich, and does sound passionate about toys. But from what I've seen he has a history of making lowball offers and then running to the press when he doesn't get his way. Things haven't been pretty for Mattel over the last few years, they are definitely up against the ropes. But they also put an aggressive cost-cutting plan in place last year that could stabilize things for 2019. They're still working at an operating loss, but far less than where they were. But it could be too little too late. So as with most things, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. So second place has the nerve to say first place is no good......🤣
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 16, 2019 8:38:11 GMT -5
Mattel is actually trending downward faster than the industry average. They’re really struggling in China due to bad logistics. The entire toy industry is trending downward, and we’ve known that for a couple of years. Specifically with all of the industry data Hasbro put out due to the poor Star Wars sales. ToysRus is still hurting these companies. The space on shelves at Walmart and Target is super limited and those places are competing with an Amazon landscape that continues to push consumers more towards their computers. It wouldn’t be the craziest thing I’ve ever heard for Mattel to go bankrupt. You can say Barbie and Hot Wheels all you want but there is a product lifecycle to every product. If they aren’t willing to adapt and develop in the right areas as the traditional toy demand changes then they’ll die. Every business class ever taught tells the story of Barnum and Bailey being replaced by Cirque du Soleil. I’m sure it’s much more difficult to sell toys to a Fortnite addicted 10 year old in 2019 than it was to sell He-man to kids in 1985. Larian gets the shift but he’s just being a total d*ck about it, and fairly hyperbolic. Nicely said!
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 16, 2019 8:44:49 GMT -5
i mean its not impossible for a large company to things up and go under. i think the biggest problem here is that all these toy companies just make TOO MUCH crap because they are focused on churning out new products every month to hit their "numbers" and in doing so they dont make enough of the things people WANT and too much of things that nobody wants. this is what happens when you have corporate college degree suits sitting in conference rooms making decisions instead of people who care about toys. i think thats the point this guy is trying to make its kind of like the WWE hiring sitcom writers to script wrestling promos and storylines. i dont understand why companies think its ok to just throw anyone on anything because they have some form of education or qualification in another area. it'd be like having a guy who went to school studying to be a dentist working on your car in an auto repair shop because he used to change his own oil in his driveway years ago. Like the movie Big when they hired Tom Hanks to be Vice President because of his knowledge of toys. Even though he had a 6th grade education. I agree. Hire someone who is and has been into wrestling for years. Someone who has collected for years. And someone who reads and listens to what the fans and collectors want. They would know damn well what would sell and what wouldn't. If they did that I can almost guarantee that WWE figure sales would skyrocket.
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Post by Artie Kendall on Jun 16, 2019 12:45:47 GMT -5
Wasn't Hasbro in negotiations to buy Mattel a few years ago? I wonder what the offer was.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jun 16, 2019 21:54:39 GMT -5
Head was horrible, color of hair was horrible, needed a little more meat on the bones. Sid looked like early Randy Orrin figures Thin as a rail. I still bought it but, I liked the Basic version a lot better Just my opinion though. Some people seemed to like it Hmmm...I thought the head was pretty spot on.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 17, 2019 1:07:50 GMT -5
Head was horrible, color of hair was horrible, needed a little more meat on the bones. Sid looked like early Randy Orrin figures Thin as a rail. I still bought it but, I liked the Basic version a lot better Just my opinion though. Some people seemed to like it Yeah, I've gotta admit I really like that Sid... I love the goofy scan. I think the only thing that lets it down is the ginger/orange hair... Mattel always has a problem with blonde hair though, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 10:27:27 GMT -5
Their selection and distribution of legends has been very bad. I'm new to collecting WWE figs over the last few years and I've seen a major drop off in excitement in collecting -- BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO BUY. You see images of things that never come out or luke-warm releases that are really hard to find anyway. And stupid directions like making Pat Patterson? Who wanted that figure? So many slam dunks that could be had for legends fans. I just don't get why they wouldn't pursue signing legends and building the line outward.
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Post by legendsguy on Jun 17, 2019 10:41:35 GMT -5
If taking a jab at me makes you feel better...more power to you to make your comment look better. If calling for someone's job based solely on speculation from limited public appearances makes you feel better...more power to you. never said about him being fired. just need a new lead.. just someone with a newer voice that's all. and I think we have a good sample size on the "limited" part.
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Post by blu3blazer on Jun 17, 2019 10:54:56 GMT -5
Exactly. Hot Wheels and Matchbox rake in tons of money for Mattel I was going to comment about dollar cars not being enough to sustain a toy company. But first I wanted to check to see how long Hotwheel had been around. So I used my Google machine. And I just found something out. Mattel owns Feld entertainment...... feld, which is Monster Jam...... so why did Mattel give that toy license to Spin Master? Here's a good article about what's going on with Mattel and Feld. Mattel never owned Feld, they had the license to produce Feld-owned Monster Jam products. jalopnik.com/monster-jam-is-going-to-war-with-mattel-1831623802Feld is currently involved in a lawsuit with Mattel. Basically, Feld let Mattel know in the middle of 2017 that they were ending their licensing agreement. Mattel had the license through the end of 2017 and Feld alleges that Mattel didn't produce them through the end of the year but stopped production shortly after they were informed of the license ending, which cost Feld money during 2017's holiday season since there was no product available for sale. Mattel ended up starting up their own monster truck brand, using very similar designs and names to Monster Jam-owned properties. And Mattel also started up their own monster truck live shows and poached a lot of personnel from Feld.
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Post by guster on Jun 17, 2019 13:52:59 GMT -5
If calling for someone's job based solely on speculation from limited public appearances makes you feel better...more power to you. never said about him being fired. just need a new lead.. just someone with a newer voice that's all. and I think we have a good sample size on the "limited" part. Have you sat in their meetings? Have you seen internal notes? Budgets? Costs? Client reviews? Vender notes and requests? No? Then what you said is based on speculation. Nobody here with the exception of Action Figure Attack has serious knowledge of the inner workings of their department and calling for someone's job without any of that knowledge is just arrogant, self-entitled and quite frankly just dick-ish. And yes, you did call for his job by asking for him to be removed from the lead position which ultimately would lead to a different position and most likely a pay cut.
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Post by poindizzle on Jun 17, 2019 13:53:04 GMT -5
I know you meant the board of directors but I think it fits for the Mattel wfigs board too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 13:59:39 GMT -5
People on here claiming to know more than a guy who runs a wildly successful toy company is killing me right now. A+ thread
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Post by LA Times on Jun 17, 2019 13:59:47 GMT -5
I know you meant the board of directors but I think it fits for the Mattel wfigs board too. There was an old thread on here about what you would do if you ran Mattel and boy, some of the stuff I read would put the company out of business...
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Post by Jack Specific on Jun 17, 2019 14:50:06 GMT -5
Guys... the topic of the thread is the article about the Mattel corporate board, not Bill. Bill is just designing the products that the Mattel tells him to. Complaining about Mattel is fine but blaming Bill for problems with the line that he has no control over is not. Thank you.
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