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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Jul 6, 2019 9:20:53 GMT -5
Had The Ultimate Warrior not had a fallout with Vince and stayed throughout the Attitude Era, what do you think his career in WWE would've looked like? Here's my questions:
- If Warrior had stayed:
How would he have fit in the Attitude Era?
Would Austin have been the guy?
Would he play politics?
When would he have retired?
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Post by LA Times on Jul 6, 2019 9:42:30 GMT -5
After Bret Hart got screwed, supposedly, Ultimate Warrior was offered a 4 year contract with something like $750,000/year as a base salary. He wouldve flopped hard in the Attitude Era and his WCW stint was a glimpse of that. Fans were not going to buy into a superhero like character destroying everybody on the roster when you had a real life version in Goldberg doing the same thing on Nitro at the time. Realistically, if they brought him in in early 1998, he wouldve been gone from the company a few months later.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 6, 2019 10:54:48 GMT -5
Warrior wouldn't have stayed. I bet he would have been gone before Wrestlemania 13 came around.
The Warrior in that era didn't fit in anyhow. The WWE was in such a weird state then. They were slowly getting away from that New Generation era, and it seemed like from KOTR 96 - Survivor Series 97, that era of the WWE was just a weird limbo era. You can't really know what to call it. All I know is that the Warrior didn't belong in that era.
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Post by K5 on Jul 6, 2019 11:39:28 GMT -5
with Russo emerging as a creative force, Warrior may have switched up his chatacter for something more fitting to the times similar to how Double J did. the difference is Austin would assumingly work with Warrior while Jeff didn’t have that fortune.
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Post by nibs92 on Jul 6, 2019 11:47:08 GMT -5
I always view characters like the Warrior as being pretty much typecast. His character belonged in the golden era. IMO his comeback in 96 was a huge mistake, creatively speaking. It’s such a one dimensional character It certainly wouldn’t have shined in the attitude era and I doubt very much that Jim Hellwig had the capability to adapt.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 6, 2019 13:34:50 GMT -5
Had The Ultimate Warrior not had a fallout with Vince and stayed throughout the Attitude Era, what do you think his career in WWE would've looked like? Here's my questions: - If Warrior had stayed: How would he have fit in the Attitude Era? Would Austin have been the guy? Would he play politics? When would he have retired? 1)Warrior wouldn't have fit in the more reality based AE at all IMHO. His WCW run was an example of that....his promos etc just wouldn't work then. 2)Austin was on course to be "the guy" from when he started getting cheered in early 1997. Even a career threatening neck injury couldn't stop his momentum. Warriors presence wouldn't have effected him at all. HBK didn't et effected by him in 1996 either.... 3) I'm sure he would have tried to play politics....after all they all did. 4) Again I see something similar to WCW happening....Warrior tearing muscles to beat the band....and having to throw in the towel. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 15:56:59 GMT -5
People overlook that Warrior did a fantastic job updating his persona in his 1996 run and I believe that with slight further tweaking would have fit the attitude era perfectly
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jul 6, 2019 16:01:13 GMT -5
It's always a very interesting prospect of how Warrior would have fared, had he stayed with the company throughout the Attitude Era. During his 1996 run, he had already made changes to his character to update it for a different audience (wearing a cap, using profanity). I'm sure he would have made further changes to fit in, had he stuck around. To me, Warrior's 1996 run will always be one of the most interesting "what ifs". So much unrealised potential.
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Post by PJ on Jul 6, 2019 18:56:16 GMT -5
Had The Ultimate Warrior not had a fallout with Vince and stayed throughout the Attitude Era, what do you think his career in WWE would've looked like? Here's my questions: - If Warrior had stayed: How would he have fit in the Attitude Era? Would Austin have been the guy? Would he play politics? When would he have retired? 1)Warrior wouldn't have fit in the more reality based AE at all IMHO. His WCW run was an example of that....his promos etc just wouldn't work then. 2)Austin was on course to be "the guy" from when he started getting cheered in early 1997. Even a career threatening neck injury couldn't stop his momentum. Warriors presence wouldn't have effected him at all. HBK didn't et effected by him in 1996 either.... 3) I'm sure he would have tried to play politics....after all they all did. 4) Again I see something similar to WCW happening....Warrior tearing muscles to beat the band....and having to throw in the towel. I will just quote this as I feel JokerFC said it perfectly. |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Jul 6, 2019 21:17:28 GMT -5
If you could get Warrior to play ball and make him heel the squash matches could work. Make him McMahons bodyguard so Austin has to go through him. But Warrior gonna Warrior and only care about Warrior.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 6, 2019 21:59:08 GMT -5
He definitely had to be different from how he was in the Golden Era that's for sure. A different look plus a heel turn for starters.Oh yeah MAJOR work on his promos as well. Talking about rocket fuel and spaceships wouldn't fly in the Attitude Era.
I will say this a heel Warrior intrigued the hell outta me.Would've been interesting for sure.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 6, 2019 22:56:29 GMT -5
Warrior in the WWF Attitude Era just sounds like a bad mix.
He didn't fit in when he resurfaced in 1996 which is before they even made that big shift in their product. His character seemed outdated then so once they went full-throttle with a more reality-based product, the Ultimate Warrior becomes a square peg in a round hole. His hokey WCW run proved that.
Unless they pulled some kind of miraculous gimmick overhaul, I can't see how it would have ever ended in anything other than disaster.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 6, 2019 23:11:32 GMT -5
Warrior in the WWF Attitude Era just sounds like a bad mix. He didn't fit in when he resurfaced in 1996 which is before they even made that big shift in their product. His character seemed outdated then so once they went full-throttle with a more reality-based product, the Ultimate Warrior becomes a square peg in a round hole. His hokey WCW run proved that. Unless they pulled some kind miraculous gimmick overhaul, I can't see how it would have ever ended in anything other than disaster.It would've been a challenge to say the least.Toughest part would be getting Warrior to go along with the changes. |
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Jul 6, 2019 23:22:34 GMT -5
Warrior in the WWF Attitude Era just sounds like a bad mix. He didn't fit in when he resurfaced in 1996 which is before they even made that big shift in their product. His character seemed outdated then so once they went full-throttle with a more reality-based product, the Ultimate Warrior becomes a square peg in a round hole. His hokey WCW run proved that. Unless they pulled some kind miraculous gimmick overhaul, I can't see how it would have ever ended in anything other than disaster.It would've been a challenge to say the least.Toughest part would be getting Warrior to go along with the changes. The guy legally changed his name to Warrior. That character was his life and there was no way he would've agreed to changing things up just to please a new generation of angry and horny wrestling fans. |
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Post by The Brain on Jul 6, 2019 23:28:36 GMT -5
It would've been a challenge to say the least.Toughest part would be getting Warrior to go along with the changes. The guy legally changed his name to Warrior. That character was his life and there was no way he would've agreed to changing things up just to please a new generation of angry and horny wrestling fans. Him changing his character around was definitely ''Highly unlikely'' to quote Gorilla. |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 7, 2019 4:11:56 GMT -5
Ultimate warrior sucks.
He was a flash-in-the-pan, good only for what he did in the day and time he did it. I liked him too when I was 8 or 9 years old.
Goldberg was fun for a short time also. But same feelings for me with him and why I don’t consider myself a Goldberg guy either
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Post by Artie Kendall on Jul 7, 2019 10:29:31 GMT -5
Warrior wouldn't change but I bet if they kept Warrior doing the same thing from the 80s until the fans started booing, the second he turns heel in a match those fans would love it. Warrior was never heel so his turn would only be second to Hogan. And Warrior as a heel wouldn't need mic skills, just make him wear dark colors or none and be the silent assassin type. Then maybe one day he takes one to many stunners and he realizes that he is a good guy for one last face run.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 11:34:52 GMT -5
I never knew he was offered that type contract after Bret left. If he were there during the attitude era he would have to be like Sting. Kept the facepaint, but cut realistic promos. Become more "human".
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Post by PJ on Jul 8, 2019 17:21:42 GMT -5
I loved Warrior, but I don’t think Warrior was capable of speaking normal coherent thoughts let alone cutting realistic promos. lol
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 9, 2019 4:44:59 GMT -5
The Character overhaul idea is certainly a good one....But as man have said Hellwig wouldn't have played ball for Vince and it would have been 1996 all over again. I'm really surprised he was offered a contract after his 96 run in WWF.
Hogan wanted him in WCW to look at the lights so that explains Bischoff signing him but Vince offering him again with the way his product was heating up and the direction it took? Weird to say the least IMHO.
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