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Post by Kill Em' All on Aug 1, 2019 11:04:48 GMT -5
In recent years a lot of people have come to criticize Chris Benoits title run I mean looking back on it it's not the greatest thing ever and very far from it but I don't see were it was this bad or failed I mean people complain it revolved around Triple H to much but what do you expect in 2004 Monday night raw due to this people like to criticize it and Kane's feud with the beniot not being main event slated I guess you could modify a couple of things around you could've had Shawn Michaels and Chris Benoit face that bad blood due in part of Beniots victory at Montreal. At this rate you can still have him face to plated Vengeance or have Triple H and Shawn Michaels settle the score at Vengeance. At this rate you're really not left with a lot of options kanes one of the top heels on the brand like it or not as well as you could've shot gun and a early age he'll turn for a feud but it probably would've not went over Chris Jericho was in the mid card and maybe could've been brought out for a feud and Christian was still on the rise and to early for title feud And then you have Randy Orton Who the company eventually lost hope on and put the belt back on HHH so in all fairness this reign wasn't going to be one of the greatest dreams ever just a casual a good title reign
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Post by BobbyTurkalino on Aug 1, 2019 15:12:47 GMT -5
I don't know if it's solely because of the Benoit tragedy but he does seem to have a forgotten title run. It started out on an absolute high note with the celebration with Eddie at Wrestlemania 20, I don't think you could begin a title run in a more emotional way than that, but then nothing really monumental happened afterwards. Sure there was the Backlash rematch and he won the tag titles with Edge, but that's irrelevant to his World Heavyweight Championship run being good or not. Then he beat Kane and that's pretty much it. No real big feuds and the matches he did have usually weren't the main event.
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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 1, 2019 15:17:17 GMT -5
I have no idea what's going on here. Are you asking us or telling us?
A couple of tabs and more than two periods would really open that wall up and give us a good line of sight to the kitchen.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Aug 1, 2019 17:25:20 GMT -5
I have no idea what's going on here. Are you asking us or telling us? A couple of tabs and more than two periods would really open that wall up and give us a good line of sight to the kitchen. I mean evidently if I am making a post, it would be open to discussion and debate by me stating my opinion. Wouldn't you say? |
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Post by Kill Em' All on Aug 1, 2019 17:29:50 GMT -5
I don't know if it's solely because of the Benoit tragedy but he does seem to have a forgotten title run. It started out on an absolute high note with the celebration with Eddie at Wrestlemania 20, I don't think you could begin a title run in a more emotional way than that, but then nothing really monumental happened afterwards. Sure there was the Backlash rematch and he won the tag titles with Edge, but that's irrelevant to his World Heavyweight Championship run being good or not. Then he beat Kane and that's pretty much it. No real big feuds and the matches he did have usually weren't the main event. I think it was strong run in overall. I guess it lacked compelling narrative after Backlash 2004. I mean I would of had HBK and Beniot get real personal over Backlash in Montreal and the ending. Beniot goes over. You could give Triple H his one on one at Vengeance, and push Michaels/HHH Cell match to Summer Slam 2004. Maybe, have Beniot feud with upstart like Edge. But I don't know if it could get the traction it needed. Or just drop it to Orton. I loved Beniot with the belt, but I think him being WrestleMania to Summer Slam kind of champion is perfect for him. Outside of Michaels,HHH, and Jericho no was ready for the main event in 2004. And you had Edge, Orton, Batista and Christian to early or WWE did not have faith. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 1, 2019 21:50:43 GMT -5
I thought Benoit's title reign in 2004 was amazing. With everything in regards to him now, it totally tarnished it all. But at the time, it was amazing!
During that time on Raw, the big heels were Evolution and Kane. So really, Benoit was sort of limited in who he could wrestle at PPV events. The fact he got to wrestle Orton at SummerSlam was actually a breath of fresh air, after the Triple H matches from March - July, and the one month in June when he had Kane multiple times.
The only other option Benoit could have had was if they had turned Edge heel going into SummerSlam and had Edge vs. Benoit. Which in a way would have made sense, since Edge and Benoit were former Tag Champions and seemed to be on the outs with each other.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 1, 2019 22:00:54 GMT -5
I enjoyed it, especially when he got to headline a PPV in Edmonton
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Aug 2, 2019 8:16:29 GMT -5
Benoit's run reminds me of the Kofi run: great story, but kind of a lackluster reign itself- it was more of a feel-good moment.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Aug 2, 2019 9:04:53 GMT -5
At the time I was underwhelmed. They kept all the focus on Michaels and Triple H and saddled Benoit with Kane. Weak opponents led to a weak reign. It was infuriating that he lost to Orton.
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Post by PJ on Aug 3, 2019 16:37:46 GMT -5
Personally I think people cr@p on it today because of the last 24-48 hours of his life. I thought he had a very good reign.
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Post by The Brain on Aug 3, 2019 19:44:51 GMT -5
I remember liking the iron man match he had with HHH on Raw during that Summer.
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Aug 3, 2019 20:58:18 GMT -5
I remember liking the iron man match he had with HHH on Raw during that Summer. That was a freaking classic. I think it's right up there, if not better than Brock/Kurt, but that's just my opinion |
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Post by Kill Em' All on Aug 4, 2019 0:26:53 GMT -5
I think as I said it overall was good solid reign, it just was locked into certain limitations. I think further looking into it, I questioned if Orton should of went over. I loved Orton's work. My favorite years of Orton was 2004-2008. But, he wasn't ready by WWE's standards. As well as his behavior made him unworthy. Although, I always support Orton having run. Who else could of took the belt off Beniot?
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