Biff Slamkovich™
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Aug 13, 2019 2:55:44 GMT -5
Once Smackdown debuts on Fox, I feel like it would be a good opportunity for WWE to further separate each of the brands by refreshing their commentary teams on each show.
I for one can't stand Corey Graves. I get it. He's a heel commentator. But does he need to be so whiny and vocal? Someone with a stronger personality than him needs to put him in check. I think it would create a more interesting dynamic too for him to be kept in line.
I don't know how everyone else feels, but I'm kinda ready to move on from not only certain people on each commentary team, but their overall style of how the action is presented -- that is, when they aren't pushing hashtags and talking about how many followers they have on social media.
Thoughts?
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Post by LK3 on Aug 13, 2019 3:22:05 GMT -5
They need to change the presentation and allow them to call it like a sport. How easily that could be done is anyone's guess, but the more I watch NJPW the more I love how Kevin Kelly calls matches. It's about the action in the ring, constantly providing numbers and statistics. I saw on Twitter during SummerSlam last night a stat about which Superstars have had the most title wins at SummerSlam. It was 3 times, between Rollins, Orton, and Bret Hart (now 4 for Rollins). Why couldn't that be something mentioned on commentary?
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Biff Slamkovich™
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Aug 13, 2019 4:13:44 GMT -5
They need to change the presentation and allow them to call it like a sport. How easily that could be done is anyone's guess, but the more I watch NJPW the more I love how Kevin Kelly calls matches. It's about the action in the ring, constantly providing numbers and statistics. I saw on Twitter during SummerSlam last night a stat about which Superstars have had the most title wins at SummerSlam. It was 3 times, between Rollins, Orton, and Bret Hart (now 4 for Rollins). Why couldn't that be something mentioned on commentary? Exactly. Also Kevin Kelly is super underrated. His time back on WWF Superstars was great too.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Aug 13, 2019 5:03:10 GMT -5
I think Nigel would make a perfect fit for Smackdown when it jumps to FOX.
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Post by Quazimoto on Aug 13, 2019 5:08:29 GMT -5
The commentary will never change style so long as Vince McMahon is constantly in the ear of everyone wearing a headset. IMO, all the commentators they have now all more than capable of calling a match on their own without such direction, but for whatever reason Vince McMahon feels it's necessary to constantly be babbling in their ears and giving them direction.
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Post by PJ on Aug 13, 2019 6:08:49 GMT -5
The commentary is the least of SD Lives problems. All they need to do to correct that is put the focus on the matches and not social media crap. The main thing that they need to do is get Shane off of TV ASAP there’s zero reason to have him in every high profile story. He should be in the background with the focus on McIntyre and the other superstars.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Aug 13, 2019 8:17:15 GMT -5
Put Booker T back on RAW lol.
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Aug 13, 2019 8:55:59 GMT -5
Graves & Renee are horrendous, you can crap on Cole all you want but he has to carry two people on commentary.
I'd have Mauro & Nigel on the main roster but still have them call NXT. When Smackdown goes to FOX, I'd do this:
Smackdown: Mauro & Matt Striker (if he's interested in resigning). Personally, I think Matt Striker was quite underrated.
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Post by k5 on Aug 13, 2019 8:57:22 GMT -5
we literally just had a ‘do you like the commentary’ thread where this was all covered. man, wwe is a dry subject these days..
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Post by Chip on Aug 13, 2019 9:03:15 GMT -5
Corey doesnt need to be on both shows, its a little ridiculous. I wouldnt be surprised when they move to Fox they either move Renee to Smackdown or pick another female, because they need to show how "progressive' and "diverse" they are to a larger audience now.
the commentary nowadays is absolutely horrendous. and its solely because of vince mcmahon. its not going to change any time soon.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Aug 13, 2019 9:10:53 GMT -5
They need to take Renee off everything. It'll just be easier to phase her out because you know damn well she'll be out of there once her contact is up.
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Post by Eugene69 on Aug 13, 2019 10:42:49 GMT -5
Graves & Renee are horrendous, you can crap on Cole all you want but he has to carry two people on commentary. I'd have Mauro & Nigel on the main roster but still have them call NXT. When Smackdown goes to FOX, I'd do this: Smackdown: Mauro & Matt Striker (if he's interested in resigning). Personally, I think Matt Striker was quite underrated. No no no no no, Matt striker single handedly ruined wrestlemania 26.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 13, 2019 15:04:42 GMT -5
The only good commentators are Graves and Cole. People love to hate on Cole but he knows his job and has been doing it for the past 20 years.
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Post by vampiro666 on Aug 14, 2019 5:26:56 GMT -5
I say they need to demote all of the commentators they have now asap to being backstage interviewers only because they all suck.
And then put Hbk ric flair Lawler and either Vince stone cold Jim cornette or bischoff or some other legends together on commentary and make it a 4 man team for each show.
it would be more interesting if they did this because they can get over everything that they need to along with the story telling and calling move sets in the ring without annoying everyone like the one's we have now do.
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Post by monstarpr on Aug 14, 2019 11:47:42 GMT -5
I'm generally ok with the Smackdown team. Just not Graves, that dude is cringe-inducing.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Aug 14, 2019 19:47:27 GMT -5
I think they need to do an overhaul for sure. Graves is just gross with the Mandy Rose schtick. Renee was a nice choose at first but she should have been trained. I highly doubt she’ll still be on when her contract is up. I’d say let her stay on til then.
It’s time for Cole to move on....geez I’m starting to think I don’t like the Raw Commentary team at all lol. It’s hard to capture the commentary magic as well as teams like Heenan and Monsoon or JR and King. It’d be nice if they switched it up every so often though.
And do we really need three people?
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 14, 2019 20:14:23 GMT -5
I will say that the Smackdown team are awful. You have Saxon and Phillips who sound identical and have zero personalities.
Commentators need to have standout voices so you know who's talking.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 14, 2019 20:17:31 GMT -5
I think they need to do an overhaul for sure. Graves is just gross with the Mandy Rose schtick. Renee was a nice choose at first but she should have been trained. I highly doubt she’ll still be on when her contract is up. I’d say let her stay on til then. It’s time for Cole to move on....geez I’m starting to think I don’t like the Raw Commentary team at all lol. It’s hard to capture the commentary magic as well as teams like Heenan and Monsoon or JR and King. It’d be nice if they switched it up every so often though. And do we really need three people? Did you ever hear Lawler during the Attitude Era? At least Graves is funny when he drools over Many Rose.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Aug 14, 2019 21:00:55 GMT -5
I think they need to do an overhaul for sure. Graves is just gross with the Mandy Rose schtick. Renee was a nice choose at first but she should have been trained. I highly doubt she’ll still be on when her contract is up. I’d say let her stay on til then. It’s time for Cole to move on....geez I’m starting to think I don’t like the Raw Commentary team at all lol. It’s hard to capture the commentary magic as well as teams like Heenan and Monsoon or JR and King. It’d be nice if they switched it up every so often though. And do we really need three people? Did you ever hear Lawler during the Attitude Era? At least Graves is funny when he drools over Many Rose. Lawler was just gross 😂 I didn’t mind as a kid but watching old stuff now it’s so much. He was after them all (except Molly!) Graves just comes off as a head over heels pig.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 15, 2019 11:12:07 GMT -5
I'd put Pat McAfee on SD in place of Graves. He's naturally weird so he'd add something unique.
I also wouldn't mind Beth Phoenix getting promoted to RAW if Renee moves over to that WWE Fox Sports Show.
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