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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Aug 27, 2019 6:08:06 GMT -5
So in the early 90s there was a huge steroid scandal that saw Vince McMahon almost face jail time. I was alive at this time and a huge fan of wrestling but was too young to understand or even really know there was a scandal. Probably because I live in Canada and it wouldn't have had as much coverage up here.
To those who may recall this as it unfolded my question is this, was Vince the only one under fire here? Was there any similar feelings towards say WCW, or towards pro wrestling as a whole from the general public? Was this a case of just Vince being in trouble?
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Post by PJ on Aug 27, 2019 6:28:15 GMT -5
It was just Vince and the WWF from what I remember. But honestly I didn’t pay close attention to it because really didn’t care if they were doing them or not. It’s none of my business if they were using them or not. They’re adults and knew the risks of what steroids could to their health so if they were willing to accept those risks who was I to judge them?
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 27, 2019 9:33:44 GMT -5
It was just Vince and the WWF, the FBI was looking into whether or not Vince was illegally selling steroids to his wrestlers. I think Superstar Billy Graham and a few other stars from previous years who were no longer with the company in 1990 started saying that Vince was making his guys take steroids and that he had a doctor who was illegally prescribing them to wrestlers in the locker rooms at shows. That's what started it all, I think. So that's why the FBI was just looking into Vince and the WWF. Not sure if WCW made some changes at this time as well, kind of as a reactionary effort so the feds didn't start looking into them.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 27, 2019 13:30:18 GMT -5
It was just WWF. One of the main reasons Rude jumped to WCW was that they had no real policy on roids. Yeah he was pissed about his Summerslam 90 payoff but the roids thing was also a concern.
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Post by nibs92 on Aug 27, 2019 13:54:38 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure the whole case relied on two specific dates where Vince supplied Steroids to the wrestlers, so was pretty much just Vince in the hot seat.
I’m pretty sure that the industry as a whole, including WCW, was viewed with some disdain, but being the biggest the WWF would have taken most of the flack on the issue. Hogan specifically got a hard time after playing down his usage on Arsenio Hall.
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Post by The Brain on Aug 27, 2019 15:33:41 GMT -5
Yeah it was pretty much all on Vince and his company.
If Vince went to jail, I gotta think Gorilla or Patterson would've took over the company considering how close they both were to Vince and Vince Sr back in the day. I recall Gorilla almost running the company in the 80s before Vince Jr came in last minute and bought it.
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Post by MKSavage on Aug 27, 2019 17:06:48 GMT -5
Yeah it was pretty much all on Vince and his company. If Vince went to jail, I gotta think Gorilla or Patterson would've took over the company considering how close they both were to Vince and Vince Sr back in the day. I recall Gorilla almost running the company in the 80s before Vince Jr came in last minute and bought it. That probably would have been the best decision, but I heard that Vince brought in Jerry Jarrett to be the head of the company just incase he went to jail. |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 27, 2019 17:22:58 GMT -5
Yeah it was pretty much all on Vince and his company. If Vince went to jail, I gotta think Gorilla or Patterson would've took over the company considering how close they both were to Vince and Vince Sr back in the day. I recall Gorilla almost running the company in the 80s before Vince Jr came in last minute and bought it. That probably would have been the best decision, but I heard that Vince brought in Jerry Jarrett to be the head of the company just incase he went to jail. Makes sense considering the WWFs working relationship with Memphis during that time period.
Jeff Jarrett would've been World Champ a lot sooner than 2000 if his dad took over that's for sure.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 27, 2019 19:19:05 GMT -5
Yeah it was pretty much all on Vince and his company. If Vince went to jail, I gotta think Gorilla or Patterson would've took over the company considering how close they both were to Vince and Vince Sr back in the day. I recall Gorilla almost running the company in the 80s before Vince Jr came in last minute and bought it. WWE Would have never been the same if that happened |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 27, 2019 21:59:39 GMT -5
Yeah it was pretty much all on Vince and his company. If Vince went to jail, I gotta think Gorilla or Patterson would've took over the company considering how close they both were to Vince and Vince Sr back in the day. I recall Gorilla almost running the company in the 80s before Vince Jr came in last minute and bought it. WWE Would have never been the same if that happened It definitely would've been different but with how much Gorilla was beloved plus his knowlewdge, I think he would've did a good job running the ship. |
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Aug 28, 2019 13:57:17 GMT -5
WWE Would have never been the same if that happened It definitely would've been different but with how much Gorilla was beloved plus his knowlewdge, I think he would've did a good job running the ship. Cornette maintains that Vince wanted Jerry to run it because he thought Jerry would be the only one who would give it back after his release. Cornette swears this was the plan while Prichard denies it big time. Would there have been a Stone Cold Steve Austin with Jerry Jarrett in charge? |
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Post by The Brain on Aug 28, 2019 14:49:27 GMT -5
It definitely would've been different but with how much Gorilla was beloved plus his knowlewdge, I think he would've did a good job running the ship. Cornette maintains that Vince wanted Jerry to run it because he thought Jerry would be the only one who would give it back after his release. Cornette swears this was the plan while Prichard denies it big time. Would there have been a Stone Cold Steve Austin with Jerry Jarrett in charge?I'm gonna say no and if there was I don't think he would've reached the heights he did without Vince there. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 3, 2019 11:03:24 GMT -5
There's a steroid scandal, what do we do?? I know, let's start the WBF!!
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Post by nibs92 on Sept 3, 2019 13:11:39 GMT -5
There's a steroid scandal, what do we do?? I know, let's start the WBF!! Yeah but the body builders only used Icopro!! |
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Post by The Brain on Sept 3, 2019 13:43:06 GMT -5
There's a steroid scandal, what do we do?? I know, let's start the WBF!! Yeah but the body builders only used Icopro!! Man they plugged that to death in 92/3.
I remember Bret in a shoot saying how awful that stuff tasted.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Sept 3, 2019 14:26:11 GMT -5
Yeah but the body builders only used Icopro!! Man they plugged that to death in 92/3.
I remember Bret in a shoot saying how awful that stuff tasted.
lol i actually tried it. I THINK i still have all of it in some bin at my parents house under the stairs. I wonder if it's still good!?!?! Again, listen to Bruce Prichards podcast. He and Conrad did a whole show on the trial. It's very informative. It was basically a witch hunt against Vince and a fired assistant is a lot to blame for it all. |
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Post by K5 on Sept 3, 2019 20:02:53 GMT -5
vince still would've been running things from behind bars - pritchard says this. but yeah, jerry jarrett was the go-to for filling in. everyone agrees on this but pritchard.
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 4, 2019 5:49:00 GMT -5
yeah Prichard is the ONLY one Ive heard deny JJ as the interim boss. Clearly Vince's cell would have looked like a creative meeting in whatever white collar establishment he ended up in.
So many others have said its the case it has to be true.
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Post by megahunt on Feb 6, 2022 11:34:32 GMT -5
Steroids were one of the first supplements that athletes used. It has already become history. Many then did not perceive supplements as something that could help athletes
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