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Post by Kill Em' All on Sept 4, 2019 21:01:20 GMT -5
How might have things unfolded with Batista/Orton at WrestleMania 30. Would Batista get run with the title? How would this effect Roman Reigns or Daniel Bryan? I always was interested in why WWE even looked at this as idea honestly.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Sept 4, 2019 21:28:50 GMT -5
It certainly would have been a low-point, that's for sure. That as the main event would have killed the card for me.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 4, 2019 23:59:30 GMT -5
I don't ever believe that Bryan wasn't gonna be in that main event.
I believe Punk vs. Triple H was planned for Mania, so my guess is Bryan would have been wrestling Orton and Batista in a 3 way anyhow, without Bryan having to beat Triple H first to get into that match.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Sept 5, 2019 0:18:11 GMT -5
I don't ever believe that Bryan wasn't gonna be in that main event. I believe Punk vs. Triple H was planned for Mania, so my guess is Bryan would have been wrestling Orton and Batista in a 3 way anyhow, without Bryan having to beat Triple H first to get into that match. The plan was supposedly a rematch between Bryan and Sheamus for 30. An odd match considering where they both were at this point, but the card definitely would've lacked assuming this happened and Punk didn't leave. Orton vs Batista - Would've stunk out the joint and closed WM on a flat, sour note with no feel good moment to combat Brock beating Taker. Bryan vs Sheamus - Crowd would have been pro Bryan, a good match but no real impact, probably would've played off the WM28 18 sec redemption. Punk vs Triple H - Probably would've opened, good match with the crowd pro Punk, but again, no real impact. Alternately, wouldn't be surprised if they capitalised on Bryan's popularity, as well as his & Punk's 'anti authority' attitudes to make this match. Bryan & Punk vs Triple H & Kane - Opening the show with Bryan/Punk going over with a GTS/Flying Knee on Triple H. EDIT: Just thinking about it, they probably could have still had the original stipulation in place for this match, if Bryan/Punk win, both get added to the Main Event for a Fatal 4 Way.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Sept 5, 2019 7:02:47 GMT -5
Yeah I don't buy WWE having planned Bryan's ascension. It's way too convenient and it's not at all unlike them to try to get away with some history revision. I'd be very hard to convince.
Vince and Triple H definitely wanted Orton and Batista. It's not like they're known for having their fingers on the pulse at all.
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Post by hellojoeivers on Sept 5, 2019 7:05:57 GMT -5
and if you go back even further, I seem to remember the reports being that CM Punk was gonna win the Rumble and face Randy in the main event That obviously went out of the window when Batista became available
Now THAT'S a what could have been...
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 5, 2019 15:32:05 GMT -5
Considering the heat Batista was attracting I could've imagined the fans walking out during the match.
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Sept 5, 2019 17:09:49 GMT -5
If Punk stayed and refused to work with Triple H, this is how I think it would've went:
*Triple H vacated the WWE World Heavyweight Championship due to Randy Orton's dirty title wins, and Triple H wants to prove what's right for WWE by having himself become WWE World Heavyweight Champion
Punk Def Orton to advance to the main event Daniel Bryan Def Triple H to advance to the main event Daniel Bryan Def CM Punk to win the WWE World Heavyweight Championship in the main event
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Post by Darkhawk on Sept 5, 2019 17:22:52 GMT -5
With Undertaker losing the streak the whole PPV would have been a crapshow and result to people walking out or chanting "boring' during the main event.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Sept 5, 2019 22:12:15 GMT -5
Bryan vs Kane following Mania probably still happens but not over the belt. I’m guessing we don’t get the Evolution reunion vs Shield. We probably get a couple of rematches between Orton and Batista. They somehow get the belt on Cena so he can get destroyed by Brock at SS. Batista leaves to promote Guardians after MITB. Not sure how they break up Shield.
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Post by wolfpac on Sept 6, 2019 14:18:22 GMT -5
With reports and rumours about punk/hhh and Bryan/Sheamus being the plan you would assume Batista wins the belt then works a program with Punk after Mania maybe turning heel then and they reform evolution.
Bryan was just a sacrifice to get the authority over, but it feels like they were never going to let him get redemption. But you cannot Deny that in the end, the Bryan rise was absolutely perfect and in no way did they plan that, they just steered the ship in that direction once they finally saw they were going to hit an ice berg head on with original plans
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Post by Old Zeke on Sept 6, 2019 14:29:29 GMT -5
Batista was robbed.
Yep, I said it.
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Post by FLUX on Sept 6, 2019 15:19:10 GMT -5
I love me some Big Dave but I'd rather watch my grandparents than watch a Batista/Orton main event
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Sept 7, 2019 1:36:28 GMT -5
WWE's revisionist history be d*mned. Bryan's chase of Orton and the Authority was meant to be wrapped up in the fall of 2013. Batista was always meant to be the conquering hero, winning the Championship from his ex-running mate Randy Orton. I believe a title shot post-Mania was being used as a carrot in an effort to re-sign Punk, who desired to leave in the summer anyway. Punk's departure and the audience's turning on Batista really forced Vince's hand and made him give the fans something they desired.
Have a hard time piecing together an alternate timeline of events going forward. Batista was meant to be the face, to capitalize on any Guardians of the Galaxy buzz, but he has expressed his backstage desire to run as a heel. I feel we would have the Evolution reformation some time in 2014 anyway, but that would delay their feud with the Shield and Seth's turn. Of course this would change up Cena's hotshot title win in the MITB Ladder Match and subsequent demolition at the hands of Brock. Maybe Lesnar-Cena still happens sans title to build him up for a title shot, and a Shield member takes the title off Batista via MITB that drives him heel...
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Post by Stuart? on Sept 7, 2019 2:55:43 GMT -5
I've always said that they shouldn't have unified the titles had Bryan carry the WWE title from the fall of 2013 and gave Punk the 2014 Rumble win setting up Punk vs Bryan at Mania.
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Post by Old Zeke on Sept 7, 2019 16:10:41 GMT -5
I've always said that they shouldn't have unified the titles had Bryan carry the WWE title from the fall of 2013 and gave Punk the 2014 Rumble win setting up Punk vs Bryan at Mania. That's not what I want! #BatistaWasRobbed
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Sept 8, 2019 0:34:06 GMT -5
I've always said that they shouldn't have unified the titles had Bryan carry the WWE title from the fall of 2013 and gave Punk the 2014 Rumble win setting up Punk vs Bryan at Mania. I always thought it would have been a killer idea to have Punk and Bryan enter 1 and 2 in the Rumble and have them go the distance. Would have enhanced the Authority storyline for both men, one against Triple H and the other for the Championship.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Sept 9, 2019 11:20:03 GMT -5
I think WrestleMania 30 was such huge turning point to the company. Even thinking about Bryan's title run in 2014 if lasted would of been amazing. I guess Batista would be the hero of the day. But maybe he'd feud with Punk or Bryan. Drop it. Lose a rematch, and turn heel and maybe Bryan/Punk could of had program over the title. Then most likely at some point in the year Lesnar would pick one of them off, and we'd still get Roman/Brock I.
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 2, 2019 17:56:36 GMT -5
Vince, Steph and the rest of the creative squad DID NOT plan Bryans explosion in popularity. Vince in his heart believed Batista would return and be adored by the crowd and they would love him winning the Rumble.
whooooo boy.
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Post by K5 on Oct 3, 2019 15:14:25 GMT -5
it would have been another turd in an era of endless turd matches.
thank goodness we didn’t get that and got the rise of Daniel Bryan instead.
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