tenup
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Post by tenup on Oct 1, 2019 5:22:09 GMT -5
I never understood this hold and for it to be used by the Fiend for his attacks diminishes the overall feel for the character. I mean you take for example what Brock Lesnar did to Rey tonight and you see what a imposing threat he brings with his appearance. In contrast the Fiend has this imposing presentation and follows through with shoving his hand in his targets mouth? How is anyone intimidated by this? Dude should use the neck snap he used on Baylor.
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Post by Angel Beast on Oct 1, 2019 7:22:38 GMT -5
Well you are taking your middle and index finger going under the tongue and pressing down on the soft tissue with the thumb pressing on the outside putting a lot of pressure on soft tissue which can legitimately cause pain if applied the right way. You watch how Mick did it before Mr. Socko go added and it was a terrifying move. Plus as Foley said it’s a move you can do to anybody.
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Post by FLUX on Oct 1, 2019 7:27:30 GMT -5
It's been booked to be a deabilitating nerve hold since like 1996, keep up.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 1, 2019 7:46:21 GMT -5
The only major issue I can see with the move - because, as others have said, if someone started jamming their fingers into the soft tissue under my tongue while driving their thumb up through the outside it would be extremely painful and looks totally invasive and uncomfortable which I think is essential for the character - is that you could just bite his fingers and he'd have to stop. I used to like it when Undertaker smothered people with his big gloved hands (I believe Kane started doing that for a while when he initially returned with the mask(s) in 2011) because that would be completely terrifying, so it would be cool to see Bray do that as well.
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Post by Angel Beast on Oct 1, 2019 9:49:24 GMT -5
The only major issue I can see with the move - because, as others have said, if someone started jamming their fingers into the soft tissue under my tongue while driving their thumb up through the outside it would be extremely painful and looks totally invasive and uncomfortable which I think is essential for the character - is that you could just bite his fingers and he'd have to stop. I used to like it when Undertaker smothered people with his big gloved hands (I believe Kane started doing that for a while when he initially returned with the mask(s) in 2011) because that would be completely terrifying, so it would be cool to see Bray do that as well. That’s why Mick put that cover over his fingers.  Biting isn’t going to do anything. Bray’s fingers are protected by the gloves. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Oct 1, 2019 15:21:27 GMT -5
The Mandible claw is more like a torture move which causes slow torment and pain.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Oct 1, 2019 19:56:03 GMT -5
I think it looks terrible. I believe he should change his whole move set as the fiend. It’s more like Bray Wyatt repackaged.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 1, 2019 20:31:17 GMT -5
I think it's great. Hurts like a mofo if you do it to yourself.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Oct 1, 2019 20:49:32 GMT -5
I think it looks terrible. I believe he should change his whole move set as the fiend. It’s more like Bray Wyatt repackaged. Don't wanna ruin kayfabe but it actually is Wyatt repackaged :') |
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LuchaBoyWF
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Post by LuchaBoyWF on Oct 5, 2019 16:03:46 GMT -5
I wish there was footage of Dr. Sam Shepherd doing it since that's where Foley got it from
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Post by TheLastDude on Oct 5, 2019 17:08:45 GMT -5
I think it looks terrible. I believe he should change his whole move set as the fiend. It’s more like Bray Wyatt repackaged. Don't wanna ruin kayfabe but it actually is Wyatt repackaged :') What the hell, man? Spoilers! The nerve of some people's children. |
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Post by RybackV1 on Oct 5, 2019 18:40:47 GMT -5
I love the Fiend but there’s just a few concerns I have.
We still have 0 explanation as to why he goes from a “children’s TV host” to a crazed lunatic monster fiend, I mean I love watching the segments , it just doesn’t make sense if you were trying to explain the character to someone brand new to wrestling.
Then..that looped laughter blaring through the arena speakers after he attacks someone. Everything is so badass as far as preseantion up to that point , then the laughter makes it cheesy imo.
Otherwise I still think it’s pretty much the most badass character in wrestling today.
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Post by TheLastDude on Oct 5, 2019 18:49:40 GMT -5
I love the Fiend but there’s just a few concerns I have. We still have 0 explanation as to why he goes from a “children’s TV host” to a crazed lunatic monster fiend, I mean I love watching the segments , it just doesn’t make sense if you were trying to explain the character to someone brand new to wrestling. Then..that looped laughter blaring through the arena speakers after he attacks someone. Everything is so badass as far as preseantion up to that point , then the laughter makes it cheesy imo. Otherwise I still think it’s pretty much the most badass character in wrestling today. Imagine if you found out that Fred Rogers was really Freddy Krueger. I will say that they should have taken pains to make them seem to be different characters. Sort of like what they were doing with corporate Kane. A sort of Jekyll and Hyde thing. We KNEW they were the same guy, but the actors couldn't confirm it. The canned laughter makes sense from the standpoint of him being a TV host, but the problem is that it's more annoying than creepy. |
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Oct 6, 2019 18:17:33 GMT -5
I think Bray needs a different finisher. Something more aggressive.
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Post by jking1979 on Oct 6, 2019 18:35:57 GMT -5
I remember when a body slam or suplex was a finisher.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Oct 6, 2019 22:48:01 GMT -5
It’s one of those moves that doesn’t look painful yet actually is, like Umaga’s thumb.
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