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Post by marino13 on Oct 8, 2019 20:27:30 GMT -5
"Seth doesn't sell enough"
Seth takes night off to sell brutal attack.
"Chicken s*** didn't even show up for work. He's ruined!"
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Ohtimate Wahriah
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 8, 2019 20:41:27 GMT -5
There is a greater problem here that I don’t know the answer to. A year ago, We would have all killed to have Rollins pushed as the guy over Roman. 3 years ago we would have taken Roman over Cena. 15 years ago we would have taken Cena over Lesnar...see the point? Either A) the WWE ruins everybody they actually push or B) we hate them because they are pushed.
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Post by TheChamp420 on Oct 9, 2019 14:31:01 GMT -5
I remember being a kid, & HBK winning the title for the first time & being so pumped, seemed like a lot of people were, then as his reign went on people started to hate on him....by the time he lost the title to Sid it seemed like everybody wanted the title off him, I didn’t get it as a kid, he was a good guy, now I realize it’s just people who are never happy....
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Post by Gorilla on Oct 9, 2019 21:48:33 GMT -5
I don't think you need a heel turn for Rollins, you need to get the heat on the Fiend.
How do you get the heat on the Fiend? You have him destroy Becky's opponent during a match. Becky is shocked, then you have the Fiend incapacitate her with sister Abigail and the claw. Rollins would need to seek retribution.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Oct 10, 2019 13:01:08 GMT -5
There is a greater problem here that I don’t know the answer to. A year ago, We would have all killed to have Rollins pushed as the guy over Roman. 3 years ago we would have taken Roman over Cena. 15 years ago we would have taken Cena over Lesnar...see the point? Either A) the WWE ruins everybody they actually push or B) we have them because they are pushed. It’s toxic fandom. WWE have positioned themselves as the heels to a certain kind of fan - so anybody who becomes the pushed top babyface automatically becomes a heel with that kind of fan. The only way that’s gonna change is if they can draw more casual fans, and that doesn’t seem like it’s happening any time soon. So until then, whoever becomes the top guy is gonna be hated on wfigs.
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Post by rkmo: Cheats & Geeks on Oct 10, 2019 13:31:20 GMT -5
There is a greater problem here that I don’t know the answer to. A year ago, We would have all killed to have Rollins pushed as the guy over Roman. 3 years ago we would have taken Roman over Cena. 15 years ago we would have taken Cena over Lesnar...see the point? Either A) the WWE ruins everybody they actually push or B) we have them because they are pushed. WWE doesn't care to book for those above the age of 10. All the nuance older members of their fandom crave, they could give two hoots about. The push for something, anything different lies in their Superman booking, pushing one guy to the Moon at the expense of everyone else. When someone actually does come along, the same exact mentality is simply applied to the other guy. Only when Vince was having his a** handed to them during the Attitude Era did that break. And as they tested during the Cena Reign, they can just ignore the detractors and dissenters as long as there are some numbers they can utilize to support their practices.
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Post by hbkjason on Oct 10, 2019 14:40:21 GMT -5
They neutered him by revealing his relationship with Becky on TV. That was some of the most cringy and eye-rolling crap the WWE has done all year and it made me flat out not care about him.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Oct 10, 2019 19:02:54 GMT -5
My worthless take is WWE should have reversed the roles in HIAC. That should have been Fiend attacking Rollins with the weapons. What WWE gave us was a piss poor ending to an over hyped match. They buried Rollins finisher which buried everyone that has been beaten by it. Lesnar included. Now, we have a Fiend that should be the most powerful player on WWE. So by those standards, WWE can never book Fiend in a World Title match again, because he is guaranteed to win. Rollins cam across as a piss poor face, who needs to be heel. Wyatt brought the evil out within Rollins. So have him be just that. The Evil Beast slayer.
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