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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 21, 2019 14:38:10 GMT -5
Since a few people brought up creative, anyone else see any similar parallels between the WWE today and WCW in 1999? HIAC finish = Flair beating Hogan at Uncensored in a first blood steel cage match...via pinfall (both nonsensical finishes that made no sense) Brock squashing Kofi with one move = Finger Poke of Doom (both matches were heavily promoted with fan interest hi for both Brock/Kofi and Nash/Goldberg until it became Nash/Hogan) The “wildcard rule” = performers constantly going between WCW/NWO/Wolfpac (the rule is over, for now, but similar in that the brand split was literally dead for about six months due to everyone appearing on both brands) Bischoff fired in 1999 due to low ratings = Bischoff fired in 2019 due to low ratings (obviously Eric was a fall guy this time, but it is still a parallel) Seth on top = Nash in top (both guys were popular the previous year, yet terrible booking has made fans turn on Seth like they did with Nash in the Spring of 1999, yet both were the top champs) Brock with the title = Hogan with the title (nobody wanted Hogan as champ in 1999, and nobody wants Brock as champ in 2019) Reigns = Goldberg (both the true faces of the company yet booked in the midcard for most of the year/yes Reigns was booed for years but there’s no question he’s the true face over Seth, like Goldberg was over Hogan and Nash) Obviously the WWE isn’t going under anytime soon, and some of these are stretches, but the parallels are similar. The recent trend of terrible booking has also seen droves of fans leaving the product, similar to late 1999 WCW. We’ll see if Pritchard can do anything to stop this trend, but with Vince around I doubt it. Maybe because I was 17 back then and am looking through nostalgic eyes, but wcw in 99 was better than wwe is today. As for Prichard, he booked WWF in 1995 so... I agree 100% that I’d take ‘99 WCW over today’s product as well. They had bigger names and it was more entertaining in general. I just feel that the booking is similar, which is something thing that the WWE should be trying to avoid right now as they seem to be copying every bad decision WCW made that year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 14:46:04 GMT -5
Is 2020 wwe going to be like 2000 wcw? Which actor will win the WWF title on smackdown because it will get publicity and "the casuals will love it"? After they can Bruce, maybe Russo takes over in 2020 for smackdown 😂
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Oct 21, 2019 14:46:37 GMT -5
Reigns = Goldberg (both the true faces of the company yet booked in the midcard for most of the year/yes Reigns was booed for years but there’s no question he’s the true face over Seth, like Goldberg was over Hogan and Nash)
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 21, 2019 14:59:48 GMT -5
Is 2020 wwe going to be like 2000 wcw? Which actor will win the WWF title on smackdown because it will get publicity and "the casuals will love it"? After they can Bruce, maybe Russo takes over in 2020 for smackdown 😂 Don’t give Steph ideas. Before you know it Kevin Hart will be WWE Champ by the spring.
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Post by TheLastDude on Oct 21, 2019 15:28:15 GMT -5
Is 2020 wwe going to be like 2000 wcw? Which actor will win the WWF title on smackdown because it will get publicity and "the casuals will love it"? After they can Bruce, maybe Russo takes over in 2020 for smackdown 😂 While not exactly the same because these guys are actual athletes and not movie stars...but Cain Velasquez and Tyson Fury anyone?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Oct 21, 2019 15:52:14 GMT -5
ViNcE iS kIlLiNg ThE bUsInEsS!1!!!11! WwE iS DoOmEd!!1!1! That is a pretty spot on impression.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 21, 2019 16:04:17 GMT -5
First things first... I'd put more stock into these complaints if it wasn't coming from the usual suspects that are always complaining about EVERYTHING. It's like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. At this point, no matter how loud or obnoxious you cry out, nobody cares.
Secondly, here's Bischoff's post WWE interview...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 16:39:35 GMT -5
Why didn't he address if he really did leave at 7 pm and never got back or if he really was clueless about the wwe product?
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 21, 2019 18:40:29 GMT -5
I’m willing to bet that Eric got a really...REALLY nice severance package.
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Post by K5 on Oct 21, 2019 23:12:27 GMT -5
Why didn't he address if he really did leave at 7 pm and never got back or if he really was clueless about the wwe product? he’s addressed dirt sheets enough times. to answer directly to what you’re referencing could damage his perceived value, and I’m sure he’s already in damage control. I think he was worth the try. people are treating him like he’s a Russo, I don’t think that’s fair. but perhaps the business has indeed passed him by.
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Post by IRS on Oct 22, 2019 8:15:15 GMT -5
Is 2020 wwe going to be like 2000 wcw? Which actor will win the WWF title on smackdown because it will get publicity and "the casuals will love it"? After they can Bruce, maybe Russo takes over in 2020 for smackdown 😂 David Arquette has been working the indies for a couple years now. So, David Arquette.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Oct 28, 2019 18:06:37 GMT -5
In terms of booking, it's very reminiscent by the garbage WCW was doing in its dying days. Not saying WWE is dying right now, but from a creative standpoint they are bankrupt and dead.
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Post by Retrospect on Oct 29, 2019 17:13:21 GMT -5
Hopefully Bruce will do something “far more invigorating and extemporaneous than ever before.”
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Post by jking1979 on Oct 29, 2019 17:21:17 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff was a great RAW general manager.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Oct 30, 2019 23:39:21 GMT -5
Does anyone know, did Bruce Prichard have any meaningful GOOD contributions to TNA Wrestling?
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Post by K5 on Oct 31, 2019 0:06:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know, did Bruce Prichard have any meaningful GOOD contributions to TNA Wrestling? I’m not sure if on a creative level he did, which is what I think you’re asking, but I do know he has a depth of understanding of what managing a major national level promotion or even international, as well as most likely having some connections for how to book certain cities, advertising, marketing etc.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Nov 2, 2019 8:30:22 GMT -5
Why didn't he address if he really did leave at 7 pm and never got back or if he really was clueless about the wwe product? he’s addressed dirt sheets enough times. to answer directly to what you’re referencing could damage his perceived value, and I’m sure he’s already in damage control. I think he was worth the try. people are treating him like he’s a Russo, I don’t think that’s fair. but perhaps the business has indeed passed him by. Bischoff rarely gives straight answers anyway.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Nov 2, 2019 8:31:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know, did Bruce Prichard have any meaningful GOOD contributions to TNA Wrestling? I’m not sure if on a creative level he did, which is what I think you’re asking, but I do know he has a depth of understanding of what managing a major national level promotion or even international, as well as most likely having some connections for how to book certain cities, advertising, marketing etc. I don't get the sense he helped much there either considering what happened to the company.
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Post by K5 on Nov 2, 2019 9:46:21 GMT -5
I’m not sure if on a creative level he did, which is what I think you’re asking, but I do know he has a depth of understanding of what managing a major national level promotion or even international, as well as most likely having some connections for how to book certain cities, advertising, marketing etc. I don't get the sense he helped much there either considering what happened to the company. well, if that’s your take then that is fair. but rather is was just by luck or not, bischoff did manage to nearly topple the wwf, the largest wrestling company in the world. so I think finding out if it was by fluke or if bischoff had a couple tricks up his sleeve was worth the three months working with him. but that’s my take.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 19:12:56 GMT -5
Prichard I believe booked WWF in 1995 one of the worst years in company history.
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