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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 24, 2019 13:31:54 GMT -5
It blows me away these guys haven’t gotten together and formed a union. This sh*t would stop immediately. They’d also have health insurance and likely a pension/veterans fund like the NFL has setup. Ventura tried that and got nearly blackballed. Even guys like Cena who've been asked about it are careful how they respond. |
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Nov 24, 2019 14:09:40 GMT -5
WWE has released talent for things as simple as cost cutting or creative not having anything. If WWE can release talent before a contract is up, the talent has the same right to request it early. And WWE has granted many requests for releases, so it seems not even WWE agrees with you on this. If the talent was worth anything then the wwe wouldn’t release them for cost cutting reasons. So again that is on the talent because if they were worth anything the wwe wouldn’t release them. I haven’t seen anyone who was future endeavored that wasn’t dead weight in the wwe in years. The issue is most of these people feel they are entitled to something instead of earning it. And they shouldn’t be rewarded for that. Again if someone wants to be released or quit then the wwe should uphold the No compete clause in the contract. If they are released for future endeavors the WWE doesn’t care about the clause. Everyone knows I was never an Ambrose fan in the WWE. But he is the perfect example of doing it the right way and I respect him for that. But in no way do I feel someone should be rewarded for trying to get out of their contract to go and compete where they think the grass is greener. If I were the WWE sure I would release them, but I would damn well hold the no compete clause against them. That’s nonsense. I could say “if WWE was worth anything talent wouldn’t want to leave. It’s WWE’s fault for creating a work environment that creates people wanting out” since apparently that’s your go to excuse for cutting talent. .... the way you see things is one sided and quite silly. If WWE can cut people early, talent can ask to leave early. It’s very simple. And again, WWE grants requests, so they clearly seem to agree with me |
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Post by PJ on Nov 24, 2019 14:31:25 GMT -5
If the talent was worth anything then the wwe wouldn’t release them for cost cutting reasons. So again that is on the talent because if they were worth anything the wwe wouldn’t release them. I haven’t seen anyone who was future endeavored that wasn’t dead weight in the wwe in years. The issue is most of these people feel they are entitled to something instead of earning it. And they shouldn’t be rewarded for that. Again if someone wants to be released or quit then the wwe should uphold the No compete clause in the contract. If they are released for future endeavors the WWE doesn’t care about the clause. Everyone knows I was never an Ambrose fan in the WWE. But he is the perfect example of doing it the right way and I respect him for that. But in no way do I feel someone should be rewarded for trying to get out of their contract to go and compete where they think the grass is greener. If I were the WWE sure I would release them, but I would damn well hold the no compete clause against them. That’s nonsense. I could say “if WWE was worth anything talent wouldn’t want to leave. It’s WWE’s fault for creating a work environment that creates people wanting out” since apparently that’s your go to excuse for cutting talent. .... the way you see things is one sided and quite silly. If WWE can cut people early, talent can ask to leave early. It’s very simple. And again, WWE grants requests, so they clearly seem to agree with me Again yes they could ask for their release. But if I was the WWE I wouldn’t wave the no compete clause. They want out fine but I am not going to have spent all the time and money invested in them so they can go someplace else and help my competition. Again we won’t see eye to eye on this because I come from an age where you actually honor you commitments. I’ve already wasted to much time with you on this. |
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Post by K5 on Nov 24, 2019 16:00:44 GMT -5
That’s nonsense. I could say “if WWE was worth anything talent wouldn’t want to leave. It’s WWE’s fault for creating a work environment that creates people wanting out” since apparently that’s your go to excuse for cutting talent. .... the way you see things is one sided and quite silly. If WWE can cut people early, talent can ask to leave early. It’s very simple. And again, WWE grants requests, so they clearly seem to agree with me Again yes they could ask for their release. But if I was the WWE I wouldn’t wave the no compete clause. They want out fine but I am not going to have spent all the time and money invested in them so they can go someplace else and help my competition. Again we won’t see eye to eye on this because I come from an age where you actually honor you commitments. I’ve already wasted to much time with you on this. that’s pretty funny considering the exact reason we’re discussing the WWE today is because Vince didn’t honour his commitment to the fellow promoters and completely betrayed them. |
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Post by PJ on Nov 24, 2019 16:24:44 GMT -5
Again yes they could ask for their release. But if I was the WWE I wouldn’t wave the no compete clause. They want out fine but I am not going to have spent all the time and money invested in them so they can go someplace else and help my competition. Again we won’t see eye to eye on this because I come from an age where you actually honor you commitments. I’ve already wasted to much time with you on this. that’s pretty funny considering the exact reason we’re discussing the WWE today is because Vince didn’t honour his commitment to the fellow promoters and completely betrayed them. I’ve always liked wrestling and the WWF, but I’ve never thought much of Vince personally. I always wish WCW would have won the Monday Night Wars. But that said Vince knew it was a gamble where he could have lost everything and he still did it ready to face the consequences for his actions. So if wrestlers don’t want to honor their contact and want out of it then they should be willing to have to face the consequences and sit out for the remainder of the contract like Neville/PAC did. But personally I still feel if I signed a contract I am going to honor it no matter how unhappy I am. |
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