sracores
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Post by sracores on Feb 28, 2020 14:35:52 GMT -5
I was talking to some lifelong wrestling fans today. I’m in a group chat with two of my friends. We have been watching WWE for 25 years.
One of the big things I’ve come to realize is that Vince McMahon realizes so heavily on nostalgia and attitude era performers that he can’t seem to get out of his own way and now this wrestlemania will once again be subject to the same problem it’s had for 10 years.
Wrestlemania is looking to have three matches that will have performers who are not even part time acts: Cena, Goldberg, Undertaker. Three valuable wrestlemania spots will be taken up by people who honestly aren’t really in the business anymore. It’s horrible booking. It has to be demoralizing to younger talent. As a viewer, I’m simply turned off.
I don’t really understand why Goldberg would need a championship in order to put eyes on the product.
I don’t really understand why the undertaker needed to come out and bury AJ in one minute.
I’m genuinely curious what you all think.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 28, 2020 15:02:37 GMT -5
I bought my WrestleMania ticket expecting to see some of the big stars, and it’s nice to see they’re being booked. I don’t want to see the same card as Backlash and TLC.
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Post by sracores on Feb 28, 2020 15:09:21 GMT -5
I bought my WrestleMania ticket expecting to see some of the big stars, and it’s nice to see they’re being booked. I don’t want to see the same card as Backlash and TLC. I guess my feeling about that is they can make an appearance but why do they need to be a major match, you know? |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 28, 2020 15:17:32 GMT -5
I bought my WrestleMania ticket expecting to see some of the big stars, and it’s nice to see they’re being booked. I don’t want to see the same card as Backlash and TLC. I guess my feeling about that is they can make an appearance but why do they need to be a major match, you know? If they weren’t wrestling, there wouldn’t be any major matches. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Feb 28, 2020 15:19:26 GMT -5
Ha, no. The idea of WrestleMania, and everything that it encompasses (which, yes, includes talents past their prime) is the draw.
WWE could wait 'til the day of to write the card, and they'd still fill the stadium.
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Post by sracores on Feb 28, 2020 15:26:41 GMT -5
Ha, no. The idea of WrestleMania, and everything that it encompasses (which, yes, includes talents past their prime) is the draw. WWE could wait 'til the day of to write the card, and they'd still fill the stadium. Does that mean it’s going to be a quality show? I think there is a big difference between name recognition and quality programs. |
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Post by LA Times on Feb 28, 2020 15:30:03 GMT -5
In terms of making money, no. In terms of being a quality show, most likely.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Feb 28, 2020 15:34:09 GMT -5
Ha, no. The idea of WrestleMania, and everything that it encompasses (which, yes, includes talents past their prime) is the draw. WWE could wait 'til the day of to write the card, and they'd still fill the stadium. Does that mean it’s going to be a quality show? I think there is a big difference between name recognition and quality programs. Well, that's an entirely different argument. "Flop", in general, means to fail. Quality wise, that's subjective. Objectively, WrestleMania is not going to flop. It's going to turn stupid amounts of money for the company and continue its role as a license to print cash for years to come. |
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Post by JL Styles on Feb 28, 2020 15:40:53 GMT -5
It won't flop because there will be matches that should be really good and are matches that people really want to see (Charlotte vs. Rhea, Edge vs. Orton, Becky vs. Baszler, etc.). However, the top of card will have guys that people are just tired of and don't want to see (Lesnar, Regins, Goldberg), and that will leave a bad taste in many fans' mouths.
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Post by sracores on Feb 28, 2020 15:42:02 GMT -5
Does that mean it’s going to be a quality show? I think there is a big difference between name recognition and quality programs. It's going to turn stupid amounts of money for the company and continue its role as a license to print cash for years to come. NOW that we can both agree on haha :-) |
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Post by Brick Man on Feb 28, 2020 15:44:50 GMT -5
For me, I don't think Mania can ever technically "flop." The spectacle of it all is always very fun for me!
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Feb 28, 2020 15:59:45 GMT -5
Considering how tickets are presold before the plans are being laid, there is no chance it won't be profitable. I can't imagine enough fans will throw their money down the drain by no-showing based on abysmal booking. The mass media will always laud over the event itself and pay no heed to the finer details we fans scrutinize. Will some matches be roundly booed? Most assuredly so, but others will be cheered. In summation,
VINCE WINS LOL
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 28, 2020 16:13:38 GMT -5
Goldberg vs Reigns
Cena vs Wyatt
Taker vs AJ
Lesnar vs Drew
Edge vs Orton
Flair vs Ripley
Becky vs Baszler
Sounds like a HUGE star studded show to me. Cmon when was the last time a WM card had this much star power? No way it’s flopping.
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Post by Eugene69 on Feb 28, 2020 16:23:07 GMT -5
I haven't enjoyed a wrestlemania from a wrestling and storyline standpoint in a while and I dont think that will change this year. Wrestlemania has become more of a holiday where friends come over, we drink beer and make fun of the stupid new wrestlers.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 28, 2020 16:51:38 GMT -5
People talk about the star power and the huge draws these old timers are, but whats going to happen in the future? When these Legends can't go anymore the WWE are going to have to relay on their young stars to carry the program.
I would rather watch a five star AJ Vs Rollins match over a Lesnar or Goldberg squash.
Take Mania 17 for an example, the main roster carried the show and didn't play second fiddle to Macho Man, Piper or Hogan.
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Post by sracores on Feb 28, 2020 16:56:32 GMT -5
People talk about the star power and the huge draws these old timers are, but whats going to happen in the future? When these Legends can't go anymore the WWE are going to have to relay on their young stars to carry the program. I would rather watch a five star AJ Vs Rollins match over a Lesnar or Goldberg squash. Take Mania 17 for an example, the main roster carried the show and didn't play second fiddle to Macho Man, Piper or Hogan. This is EXACTLY how I feel! Goldberg is 53. UNDERTAKER is 54. HHH is 50. It’s not like these guys have a lot of miles left... |
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Post by sracores on Feb 28, 2020 16:57:40 GMT -5
I haven't enjoyed a wrestlemania from a wrestling and storyline standpoint in a while and I dont think that will change this year. Wrestlemania has become more of a holiday where friends come over, we drink beer and make fun of the stupid new wrestlers. I can relate. We had my bachelor party at Mania last year and making jokes and getting buzzed was the better part of it haha. |
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Post by marino13 on Feb 28, 2020 17:14:43 GMT -5
No, don't be foolish.
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Post by K5 on Feb 28, 2020 17:22:20 GMT -5
the only thing flopping will be hulk hogan flopping his leg drop down in a final wrestlemania match, brotheeeeer
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Post by RybackV1 on Feb 28, 2020 17:35:19 GMT -5
Drew McIntyre vs Brock Lesnar
Roman Reigns vs Goldberg
John Cena vs The Fiend
Randy Orton vs Edge
AJ Styles vs The Undertaker
Shayna Baszler vs Becky Lynch
Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley
So much more to be added
It’s one of the most intriguing Mania cards in recent memory
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I dont know good luck 
