|
|
Post by Decky on Mar 3, 2020 12:31:52 GMT -5
Part timers bring in the casual viewer for Mania. The current roster doesn't have the star power to do it themselves. It one night of the year and I love seeing some star power.
|
|
|
|
Post by Decky on Mar 3, 2020 12:32:45 GMT -5
Drew McIntyre vs Brock Lesnar Roman Reigns vs Goldberg John Cena vs The Fiend Randy Orton vs Edge AJ Styles vs The Undertaker Shayna Baszler vs Becky Lynch Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley So much more to be added Itβs one of the most intriguing Mania cards in recent memory What would be intriguing about undertaker versus AJ....? Def not a match Iβve dreamed of seeing and trust me Iβm a huge taker mark lol. (No offense) Are you saying no offence for not dreaming about AJ V Taker or no offence for being a huge Taker mark? |
|
|
|
Post by βππ£π ππ ππππ on Mar 3, 2020 16:10:05 GMT -5
Drew McIntyre vs Brock Lesnar Roman Reigns vs Goldberg John Cena vs The Fiend Randy Orton vs Edge AJ Styles vs The Undertaker Shayna Baszler vs Becky Lynch Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley So much more to be added Itβs one of the most intriguing Mania cards in recent memory 100% agree with this. I don't really get that "new star" mentality, either. Part-timers keep things new and exciting because I don't see them cutting meaningless promos or having repetitive matches each week on TV. Its a lot of fun for a fan like me to see Goldberg come back for four weeks at a time twice a year. Same goes for Cena, Taker, and whoever else could be on the card. Stars just aren't the same anymore. I really can't think of more than four people that I love to see weekly right now. |
|
|
|
Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Mar 3, 2020 17:49:34 GMT -5
The only threat to Mania flopping is coronavirus, if it gets worse in the area then they may cancel, postpone or relocate the show. Or people who have tickets may not attend because they're worried about the virus.
The card imo looks better than previous years.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Mar 3, 2020 19:09:45 GMT -5
No lol
|
|
|
|
Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 5, 2020 5:57:44 GMT -5
Drew McIntyre vs Brock Lesnar Roman Reigns vs Goldberg John Cena vs The Fiend Randy Orton vs Edge AJ Styles vs The Undertaker Shayna Baszler vs Becky Lynch Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley So much more to be added Itβs one of the most intriguing Mania cards in recent memory 100% agree with this. I don't really get that "new star" mentality, either. Stars just aren't the same anymore. I really can't think of more than four people that I love to see weekly right now. That's the problem in itself. Vince hasn't been relying on the past for so long that he doesn't know any other way now. Imagine in '98 if Vince had applied his same template and instead of letting HBK go into WM against Austin, HBK dropped the belt to Ivan Koloff 6 weeks prior to the event. Or perhaps he could have brought back Bruno Sammartino to feud with HHH a few years later? Do you see how disjointed that feels? The fact is that Vince should have 5-6 new guys in their prime (mid 20s-late 30s) every decade to sell WWE as something that has been refreshed and is still relevant. Without that, we get cards headlined by grandpas and a lot of smoke and mirrors. |
|
havoc7179
Main Eventer
What is this?
Joined on: Oct 16, 2012 9:11:18 GMT -5
Posts: 4,189
|
Post by havoc7179 on Mar 5, 2020 8:16:10 GMT -5
Drew McIntyre vs Brock Lesnar Roman Reigns vs Goldberg John Cena vs The Fiend Randy Orton vs Edge AJ Styles vs The Undertaker Shayna Baszler vs Becky Lynch Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley So much more to be added Itβs one of the most intriguing Mania cards in recent memory I swear WWE should pitch this Mania like the Starrcade best of 7 between WCW and NJPW. Then Now Forever. legends vs current stars Goldberg v Roman Cena v Fiend Undertaker v Styles Edge v Orton Divas of Doom v Kabuki (rumored) Lesnar v McIntyre I'm not complaining. I think it would be an awesome marketing point. |
|
Deleted
Joined on: Nov 5, 2024 8:46:32 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 9:26:30 GMT -5
Nope  |
|
|
|
Post by Next Manufacturedβs Sweater on Mar 5, 2020 10:23:25 GMT -5
The fact is that Vince should have 5-6 new guys in their prime (mid 20s-late 30s) every decade to sell WWE as something that has been refreshed and is still relevant. You want Vince to shove 5-6 people down our throats?? Goddamit, pal. |
|
|
|
Post by dylan on Mar 5, 2020 10:31:38 GMT -5
The card sounds decent so far, but Reigns vs Goldberg is what really has me intrested. Though for the sake of the pull, I vote "meh"
|
|
|
|
Post by Weemanv1 on Mar 5, 2020 12:35:30 GMT -5
No. Wrestlemania is about the brand. No Way Jose vs Kona Reeves could be the main event and it wouldn't flop.
|
|
jeffro2000
Main Eventer
Joined on: May 16, 2011 14:23:29 GMT -5
Posts: 1,858
|
Post by jeffro2000 on Mar 5, 2020 13:19:18 GMT -5
It may not be best for future business, but more people will tune in with these legends wrestling.
All you have to do is look at the ratings of the special reunion/anniversary Raws and see that they are the top rated shows each year by a good bit too.
Personally, I may watch Cena,Taker, Goldberg, but I definitely wouldn't be watching otherwise.
Those that watch each week are watching regardless, and complaining regardless, so why not try to get extra eyeballs on the product in hopes that they stick around? Are they a potential detriment to current talent? I can see that but you can argue that the increased exposure/eyeballs is good for them and business regardless.
|
|
|
|
Post by βππ£π ππ ππππ on Mar 5, 2020 17:08:07 GMT -5
100% agree with this. I don't really get that "new star" mentality, either. Stars just aren't the same anymore. I really can't think of more than four people that I love to see weekly right now. That's the problem in itself. Vince hasn't been relying on the past for so long that he doesn't know any other way now. Imagine in '98 if Vince had applied his same template and instead of letting HBK go into WM against Austin, HBK dropped the belt to Ivan Koloff 6 weeks prior to the event. Or perhaps he could have brought back Bruno Sammartino to feud with HHH a few years later? Do you see how disjointed that feels? The fact is that Vince should have 5-6 new guys in their prime (mid 20s-late 30s) every decade to sell WWE as something that has been refreshed and is still relevant. Without that, we get cards headlined by grandpas and a lot of smoke and mirrors. Yeah, I do appreciate that point. What if you didn't need to bring in four or five legends right before Mania and push a story down the fans' throats? What is the company just worked all year and made their matches and storylines matter? I think you can look at AEW right now as a great example. A year ago, I couldn't ever imagine being so invested in performers or characters like MJF, PAC, Orange Cassidy, Dustin Rhodes or Sami Guarvara. All of them were alright to enjoy but now I anticipate their matches, TV time and feuds so much! |
|
|
|
Post by Chip on Mar 5, 2020 18:10:47 GMT -5
not in the slightest. Wrestlemania is always going to be a big event and get a lot of attention. The idea of it "flopping" nowadays really isn't remotely close to being true
|
|
|
|
Post by kennyw86v2 on Mar 5, 2020 18:43:49 GMT -5
Will it be awful? Absolutely yes.
Will it flop? Based on the fact most people consider flops to be based on $ and numbers and not quality, then no.
|
|
|
|
Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 8, 2020 22:41:39 GMT -5
That's the problem in itself. Vince hasn't been relying on the past for so long that he doesn't know any other way now. Imagine in '98 if Vince had applied his same template and instead of letting HBK go into WM against Austin, HBK dropped the belt to Ivan Koloff 6 weeks prior to the event. Or perhaps he could have brought back Bruno Sammartino to feud with HHH a few years later? Do you see how disjointed that feels? The fact is that Vince should have 5-6 new guys in their prime (mid 20s-late 30s) every decade to sell WWE as something that has been refreshed and is still relevant. Without that, we get cards headlined by grandpas and a lot of smoke and mirrors. Yeah, I do appreciate that point. What if you didn't need to bring in four or five legends right before Mania and push a story down the fans' throats? What is the company just worked all year and made their matches and storylines matter?; That's the problem with part-timers carrying these events. The unintentional result is that the majority of the year feels like WWE is just treading water until next WrestleMania season. I'm not opposed to legends enhancing the card like WWE did with Vince vs Hulk at WrestleMania XIX, which was a perfect example of how legends should be utilized. However, there is problem when there aren't enough current mainstream names to sell the event without title bouts leaning on past stars who are visibly over the hill. |
|
|
|
Post by Kill Em' All on Mar 9, 2020 0:58:11 GMT -5
The Saudi show really pissed me off but Iβll chill out
I think itβs gonna be standout show or fall flat on its face no in between
|
|
ππ΅πβοΈ
Main Eventer
WF 10 Year Member
King Of The Ring 2007 - Team Undisputed
Joined on: Feb 4, 2013 13:46:47 GMT -5
Posts: 4,732
|
Post by ππ΅πβοΈ on Mar 9, 2020 4:30:16 GMT -5
As far as the week long event known as WrestleMania, it will out live us all. As long as people pay to watch television, WrestleMania will continue. There is absolutely nothing in this world like World Wrestling Entertainment. Even if Raw and Smackdown were to stop, which they won't, a McMahon-Helmsley member will produce a WrestleMania in late March / early April.
As far as the SuperStars, Legends, Hall of Famers, and storylines used, WrestleMania XI finally becoming the 2nd worst WrestleMania of all time was bound to happen sooner or later. It's the 25th anniversary of the first time that Hulk Hogan and / or the WWF Championship Title Belt wasn't featured in the Main Event of the Grandest Stage of them all.
For the record, I don't think WrestleMania 36 will be bad. The hype just doesn't feel like we're on the Road to WrestleMania. It feels more like, we're on the Road to next month's Sunday show. Since its Spring time, let's bring in some big names, and make a week out of it.
Which pay per view does AEW consider to be they're WrestleMania?? That's how much I'm interested in WrestleMania 36.
|
|
jason1980s
Main Eventer
Joined on: Sept 30, 2009 14:58:56 GMT -5
Posts: 2,335
|
Post by jason1980s on Mar 9, 2020 7:46:10 GMT -5
WrestleMania is like the super bowl of wrestling at this point and probably since 2001. Fans will attend the event just to be able to say they were there. It could be full of your local indy wrestlers and still have a packed crowd just because it's WrestleMania. I do think the need to re-evaluate their business model because at some point Goldberg, Edge and whatever WWE Legends they bring back for a match will not be able to go and the new talent will not be able to be as enjoyable. At that point it may flop but it's still a ways away.
|
|
|
|
Post by cableV on Mar 9, 2020 22:30:12 GMT -5
Imagine living in Italy, making WrestleMania plans months ago, and then...
"MILAN (AP) β Italian Premier Giuseppe Conte put his entire country on lockdown Monday to combat the coronavirus, banning all but the most important travel and putting the final kibosh on social gatherings after Italians failed to take previous warnings to heart amid skyrocketing infections.
Two days after imposing the same strict measures on a quarter of the country, in the hard-hit north, Conte urged all 60 million Italians to stay home. The only travel allowed will be for proven work reasons, for health conditions or other cases of necessity.
The nationwide restrictions take effect Tuesday until April 3 and include extending the closures of schools and universities and closing pubs, eateries and cafes at dusk. "
I suppose they could still fly out on the 3rd, if the ban doesn't get extended, but it's a 14 hour flight and hardly worth it at that point IMO.
|
|
![Rated [R] NinJa Avatar](http://storage.proboards.com/530008/avatar/IDIYNeRTVZulhCPXFiqx.png)
