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Post by Nick the Quick on Mar 6, 2020 18:36:10 GMT -5
I already know how this election is going to go so I’m nowhere near as invested in it as I have been in previous ones.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Mar 6, 2020 19:23:19 GMT -5
I already know how this election is going to go so I’m nowhere near as invested in it as I have been in previous ones. I'm watching it with near zero expectation that any Dem will be elected and allowed to peacefully take office. Only interest is seeing how closely the events resemble my fears, and how the masses will react to the depths the race will go.
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 6, 2020 20:01:27 GMT -5
I already know how this election is going to go so I’m nowhere near as invested in it as I have been in previous ones. I'm watching it with near zero expectation that any Dem will be elected and allowed to peacefully take office. Only interest is seeing how closely the events resemble my fears, and how the masses will react to the depths the race will go. Can't wait for Biden to bring something up about cancer research and for Trump to harass Biden about Beau, and bring in Naomi for good measure on something relating to the auto industry and his base to just eat that up as they do with most else. It's disgusting. But it's commonplace now. And I frankly wouldn't be surprised if we keep gettijng far right Presidents for a generation minimum. Trump has shown how powerful vileness can be, and if any group is capable of maintaining it...especially considering in 2024, if Trump does win this year and someone like AOC is a presumptive nominee, the neolibs will vote even further right and continue as such because their conservatism has proven time and again that Progressives have no choice but to hold their noses for a candidate the Neos choose and bail them out of tight spots, but the expectation isn't there for Neos to reciprocate even if the Progressive has a phenomenal chance. Ya know, because those only making 30k have a totally logical reason to be petrified of taxes on people who make over 50m. And why should they have to look towards the common good when progressives like me are already forced to side with them when push comes to shove.
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 6, 2020 20:27:45 GMT -5
I already know how this election is going to go so I’m nowhere near as invested in it as I have been in previous ones. I'm watching it with near zero expectation that any Dem will be elected and allowed to peacefully take office. Only interest is seeing how closely the events resemble my fears, and how the masses will react to the depths the race will go. Well they pretty much brought that on themselves. Bush was a meh President but Dems would just casually poke him. Obama was a meh President but Rep would casually poke him. Trump has been treated completely different from any other President.Its scary how obsessed some people are with Trump and how he's allowed to live rent free in their heads 24/7. Its been since day 1 that the Dems have gone out of their way to do anything & everything they could to get him out of office. Surprisingly the only thing they havent tried is an assassination attempt. If/when a Dem is elected again the guy/girl is going to be ran through the absolute dirt by Reps and honestly rightfully so. Its going to take a few cycles before we ever seen any real resemblance of bipartisanship again.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Mar 6, 2020 21:06:39 GMT -5
I'm watching it with near zero expectation that any Dem will be elected and allowed to peacefully take office. Only interest is seeing how closely the events resemble my fears, and how the masses will react to the depths the race will go. Well they pretty much brought that on themselves. Bush was a meh President but Dems would just casually poke him. Obama was a meh President but Rep would casually poke him. Trump has been treated completely different from any other President.Its scary how obsessed some people are with Trump and how he's allowed to live rent free in their heads 24/7. Its been since day 1 that the Dems have gone out of their way to do anything & everything they could to get him out of office. Surprisingly the only thing they havent tried is an assassination attempt. If/when a Dem is elected again the guy/girl is going to be ran through the absolute dirt by Reps and honestly rightfully so. Its going to take a few cycles before we ever seen any real resemblance of bipartisanship again. For one, "casual pokes" from Conservatives lol Second, self-perceived, self-assigned notions of victimhood is not an excuse for future behavior. Thirdly, any attempts of physical harm I oppose in the strongest of terms. That only creates martyrs and gives validation to everything spoken by that branch of the media, desperate to manipulate simple people's minds for their own monetary gain.
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Post by Tim of thee on Mar 7, 2020 0:33:23 GMT -5
Anyone remember when they made a movie about assassinating Bush? Or when they questioned Obama’s birthplace? Yeah it’s still business as usual.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 9, 2020 14:47:59 GMT -5
Anyone remember when they made a movie about assassinating Bush? Or when they questioned Obama’s birthplace? Yeah it’s still business as usual. Do I ever. It wasn't very good...visually interesting, the way they did it, but it kinda fell short, especially when the premise (how the world could be altered by the death of a sitting President) had such promise. It definitely wasn't made for political news junkies...anyone paying attention would have caught the clips of doctors speaking following the attack on Reagan almost immediately.
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Post by Tim of thee on Mar 9, 2020 22:46:25 GMT -5
Anyone remember when they made a movie about assassinating Bush? Or when they questioned Obama’s birthplace? Yeah it’s still business as usual. Do I ever. It wasn't very good...visually interesting, the way they did it, but it kinda fell short, especially when the premise (how the world could be altered by the death of a sitting President) had such promise. It definitely wasn't made for political news junkies...anyone paying attention would have caught the clips of doctors speaking following the attack on Reagan almost immediately. Some would call it poor taste
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 10, 2020 2:42:03 GMT -5
If Biden does well today, the Democratic primary is effectively over (though there is a dispute over uncounted votes in Texas and over 2M ballots still pending in CA). And in my opinion, Trump is going to absolutely annihilate that doddering old fool. Might be the biggest electoral college landslide in a generation.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 10, 2020 7:31:39 GMT -5
Do I ever. It wasn't very good...visually interesting, the way they did it, but it kinda fell short, especially when the premise (how the world could be altered by the death of a sitting President) had such promise. It definitely wasn't made for political news junkies...anyone paying attention would have caught the clips of doctors speaking following the attack on Reagan almost immediately. Some would call it poor taste I could definitely be perceived as such, but being that it fell markedly short of perceivable in any sound sense of mind as a threat, I'd argue (not necessarily with any sort of express passion) that therein lies the beauty of free speech (even coming from a British filmmaker).
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Post by slappy on Mar 10, 2020 22:37:58 GMT -5
Bernie's goose is cooked.
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 10, 2020 23:28:45 GMT -5
Bernie's goose is cooked. I would bet every penny I could get my hands on that Trump gets re-elected. Biden doesn't have a chance.
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 10, 2020 23:53:23 GMT -5
Not gonna lie. The Reddit meltdown is quite hilarious. I love seeing people act like its the end of the world & all hope is lost just because their #1 choice doesnt make it to the end.
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 10, 2020 23:59:37 GMT -5
AOC 2024
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 11, 2020 0:03:05 GMT -5
Not gonna lie. The Reddit meltdown is quite hilarious. I love seeing people act like its the end of the world & all hope is lost just because their #1 choice doesnt make it to the end. ....as if there aren't enormous differences policy-wise between him and Biden, who is about to get destroyed by Trump? Not like Bernie supporters are splitting hairs.
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Post by slappy on Mar 11, 2020 0:20:35 GMT -5
If AOC ran in 2024 and lost, waited 20 years and ran in 2044 and lost and ran again in 2064, she'd still be younger than Bernie is now.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Mar 11, 2020 1:07:09 GMT -5
The debates between Trump and Biden are going to be cringeworthy. Trump is in a neurological decline, and his speeches are often incoherent. Biden isn't the morally bankrupt, blithering monster that Trump is, but he also makes the occasional bizarre statement that makes me wonder if he's not in the beginning stages of age-related cognitive impairment? Regardless, I'd rather just listen their running mates make their respective points for Trump and Biden.
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Post by slappy on Mar 12, 2020 2:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 19, 2020 17:55:31 GMT -5
Something I never thought that I'd say:
If the House Democrats don't side with Trump and Mitch McConnell here, or at least come to an amicable agreement, they're going to lose the House. And I'd very hesitantly say I almost hope they do.
I disagree with some of what's in the initial draft of the emergency bill, namely the bailout for the airline industry. But the SBA backed loans, and the individual economic stimulus are things desperately needed, especially if this is prolonged.
I know there was no real Democrat input in the bill. Schumer has been meeting with Mitch, but only when it's been combed through will we know if any of his insights were heeded even in the slightest. But early indicators have shown that the Senate Republicans and Trump himself are more left on this issue than the Dems.
Mind you, if this works we'll never hear the end of it. But they seem to be following a similar formula of Obama's stimulus and just signing their names to it and claiming it for themselves. But ya know what? As a progressive, I'm fine with letting them claim a win in a "you can copy my work, but make sure you change a few things" student mentality if it means they're finally doing the right thing. Even if it's just this once.
This isn't the time for partisanship. I'm all for the Democratic establishment forcing the issue to make sure the money is spent the way it's being intended, as Team Blue SHOULD be the watchdogs. But if they try and hack off their noses just to spite their faces, the people WILL remember this specific November.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Mar 19, 2020 18:13:32 GMT -5
I mean, it is either gathering oppo attack ads or okaying direct payoffs for votes, so...
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