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Post by michaelc on Mar 11, 2020 20:40:04 GMT -5
Hi again forum. Work, that has to take precedence, drags me away for many months at a time and means I have to re-shuffle my writing schedule. But the clouds are parting and I'm looking to finish a project I have been working on for a number of years, based on the history of LJN Wrestling Superstars. (More on that to come when the time is right, i.e. when I am closer to finishing). So at this first stage - I'd love to hear your collecting stories from 1985 to 1989+ of when you were a youngster chasing your beloved favourite figures in stores across the land(s)!
We've had similar stories before, but again would not hurt at all!
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Post by michaelc on Mar 11, 2020 21:04:04 GMT -5
I'd post some images of draft profiles but they are not hosted anywhere online, nor do I want them to be at this stage. Not sure how I can upload directly from my own computer.
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Post by ozz on Mar 12, 2020 20:41:46 GMT -5
I've seen some samples and this book is looking great! Sadly I think with the latest Hasbro book issues, not many are going to be too excited around here. Good luck though, man!
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Post by michaelc on Mar 14, 2020 8:51:43 GMT -5
Hi Ozz. I’ll be in touch soon. I have been checking periodically on the Hasbro book...still waiting. My work is slowing right down abruptly..possibly due to bigger world issues...so I’ll be upping work on the LJN book soon...and given the issues with that other book..i’m hestitant to formalise anything until I can pin down a very close approximation of availability!
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Post by DonDaBomb13 on Mar 15, 2020 20:38:51 GMT -5
I wish they made a "Leaping" Lanny Poffo/Genius LJN figure
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Post by jason1980s on Mar 16, 2020 7:18:02 GMT -5
I've seen some samples and this book is looking great! Sadly I think with the latest Hasbro book issues, not many are going to be too excited around here. Good luck though, man! Ozz is the man members should look up to for LJN knowledge. When I was starting to learn more about the end of the line and build my collection with rare toys and accessories, I wound up finding his website. This was long before a site like this existed. I am crazy about the LJNs because I love that time period in wrestling and the toys are so life like. Hasbro, Mattel and Jakks (sometimes) had the most accurate appearance but with LJNs as big as they are you really got to see a lot of detail even though they were just one large piece of rubber. I became a wrestling fan shortly after LJN line ended but luckily a few straggler carded toys could be found at TRUs and Rite Aid type stores. Since I wasn't around when the line was primarily in stores a lot of mystery surrounded the line, to me. For years I always thought the 1988 series was mail away only, not counting 1989, because I only ever saw images in that Wrestling Ring ad and no flea markets or yard sales ever had those 88 guys. Oddly enough in 1998 at a "Value Village" store my grandmother found a majority of the 1988 releases. Even though Hasbro gets a lot more love on this site, people still love the LJNs which makes me happy. To me that time period when LJNs were most prominent to just shortly after the line ended is the best time to be a wrestling fan. I'm talking 1985/86 to WrestleMania VI. Again, us members and LJN fans need to thank Ozz. When a lot of catalog and toy magazine dealers were only selling the basic figures from the early series, he was selling the toughies like Rick Rude, the accessories like Blassie and Fuji canes and providing us with every detail about the card back on the black card line.
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Post by michaelc on Mar 17, 2020 0:43:39 GMT -5
"Oddly enough in 1998 at a "Value Village" store my grandmother found a majority of the 1988 releases. " Hi Jason, do you remember who any of these were?
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Post by michaelc on Mar 17, 2020 0:45:40 GMT -5
It was only natural that LJN kicked off its line with WWF Heavyweight champion and burgeoning megastar Hulk Hogan, proudly wearing his hard-won championship belt. It was also only natural that mini-Hulk Hogan sold out as soon as he hit the stores. The Series 1 Hogan was a well-sculpted capture of the WWF’s poster boy, simply clad in golden yellow, with red kneepads and customary (and very marketable) headband and sweatbands. However, Hulk did have an over-generous shock of blonde hair; but the little promoters at home soon found out that this anomaly quickly corrected itself after a few exuberant headshots to their mini-champ. LJN (and the broader toy market) had significantly underestimated the potential demand for these new 8” bad boys, so they corrected by increasing the Hogan production runs (and packing ratios). As winter ‘85 wore on, the newly-minted at-home promoters were more easily able to acquire their favourite wrestler. But by December ‘85, LJN’s ‘over-produced’ Hogan often cast a lonely shadow across toy aisles, with many of his absent playmates hiding under a tree ready for a bout of Christmas-mania! Wrestlemania begat Hulkamania begat Merchandise-a-mania (or vice versa), ergo the Hulkster popped up in a few (dozen!) more lines. A super-sized Hulk hit the stores in late ‘85 aptly branded as the Giant-Sized Hulk Hogan. Hulk lead 1986 lines as two distinct Bendies and in 5 Thumb Wrestler sets, as a 1987 stretch wrestler; and in a number of cancelled ideas including, Roadsters, Muscle-Grip and even articulated forms. And of course kids could now do their training with the Hulkamania Workout Set, say their prayers in their Hulk Hogan pyjamas, and eat their vitamins from their Hulkster lunchbox (but the branded pills came later). In 1985 Hulkamania reigned supreme in the ring and in the mini mat wars as well. And of course LJN’s series 1 Hogan is the benchmark against which all subsequent releases would be measured. “So watcha’ gonna’ do brotha’, when 8 inches of plastic-mania come pounding down on you!” Make more of course. Many, many more!
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Post by michaelc on Mar 17, 2020 0:46:30 GMT -5
"As he was being interviewed backstage by Mean Gene Okerlund, and with the legendary Andre the Giant showering him in champagne, Hulk Hogan celebrated his triumph in capturing the World Heavyweight Championship just 6 weeks after his debut. But even with proud parents Ruth and Peter beaming, the wrestling world couldn’t help but wonder if their new patriotic champion might just be another flash in the pan? The Incredible Hulk Hogan, 303 pounds of thick golden muscle and thin blonde hair started his WWF title reign by travelling to Japan to compete in New Japan Pro Wrestling where he was a bonafide legend. Back on home soil in mid-February the champ made his first title defense against The Masked Superstar. But heel talent was lining up to tackle Hogan, and over the ensuing months he successfully defended against the The Iron Sheik, Paul Orndorff, Big John Studd, David Schultz and Greg Valentine. In July he saw off Jesse Ventura and later settled into a longer run with top contender Studd, punctuated by challenges from Orndorff, The Sheik and Brutus Beefcake. But Hogan’s star was shining even brighter out of the ring, where as part of the Rock’n’Wrestling Connection with Cyndi Lauper, he was becoming the most recognised ‘sports’ star in the world. But one Rowdy man was peeved at Hogan’s status and took every opportunity to bring the star down. Despite limited title shots, which normally ended without a clear pinfall, Roddy Piper had clearly set his sights on beating the man he despised most - the champion of the world. In February 1985 at the War to Settle The Score Hogan faced down the crazed Scotsman. Hulk was being beaten senseless by Piper and Orndorff after a Wonderful interfering kneedrop from the top rope. Cyndi Lauper tried in vain to help her friend but Piper and Orndorff threatened the tiny songstress. Mr T, sitting ringside, entered the fray to try and even the score. And then, after a wild melee had cleared the ring of the bad guys, a new alliance was cast in blood. The feud climaxed as the main event of Wrestlemania with Hogan and T facing Piper and Orndorff; with Jimmy Snuka and Bob Orton as cornermen. The match was a seesaw encounter with Piper and T belting their hate into each other. Hogan got on top of the maniacal Piper but was continually troubled by Orndorff who pushed the Hulkster to the limit. Piper felled Hogan with a chair, and back in the ring Hogan was double-teamed. Orndorff had Hogan tied and ready for a knockout blow, but the Ace missed with his loaded cast, ko’ed Wonderful and Hulk Hogan and Mr T won the day at wrestling’s Superbowl. Over the next few months Hogan met Don Muraco in a series of tough encounters, as well as seeing off all of the major contenders in Orton, Studd, Sheik, Ken Patera, Beefcake, Valentine, Nikolai Volkoff, King Kong Bundy and of course Piper. Hogan even defended against now friend Paul Ordnorff, who again pushed the champ to his limit but shook the Hulkster’s hand after the bout. A new posse of challengers soon emerged in the WWF. The brash Randy Savage started gunning for Hogan’s title; and it looked to the fans that The Macho Man might have the goods to make good on his threats. Savage’s manager Elizabeth taunted Hogan’s selective choice of opponents before a title bout against the lowly Rusty Brooks. This brought on punishing defences against Savage; who even stole Hulk’s belt after a count-out win at the end of 1985. Early 1986 saw Hogan lucky to escape with his title when Terry Funk almost piledrove the champ into a 3-count. And then in February, following another defence against Muraco, Hogan was savagely attacked by Bundy. The bald behemoth delivered three Avalanches and two splashes to Hogan, the last onto Hogan’s back. The damage ‘sent’ the Champion to the hospital and he had to strap his damaged ribs for protection. And so the score between the people’s champ and Heenan’s top goon could only be settled inside a steel cage at Wrestlemania 2! The match was a brutal encounter and Bundy went straight for Hogan’s damaged ribs, viciously choking the champ with the bandages and using them to choke Hogan. Hogan fought back but the weakened champ was unable to slam the bloodied big man. Bundy delivered the Avalanche, hit a big splash and was almost out of the cage when stopped by Hogan. Bundy hit another Avalanche, but now Hogan, drawing power from the fans, scoop-slammed the massive monster, who couldn’t recover in time to beat Hogan in exiting the cage. Throughout 1986 Hogan added Adrian Adonis and Moondog Spot to the list of challengers that was headed by Bundy, Studd and Funk. But not even Hulkster himself could predict that the biggest threat to his title was yet to come, fuelled by the growing resentment lurking deep inside good friend and ally, Paul Orndorff."
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Post by Zincdust on Mar 17, 2020 12:26:11 GMT -5
I had to think about this one for a while.
My first two that I got were Randy Savage and George Steele, from a local (SW Idaho) department store called King's.
My next one was Muraco, which I got from Woolworth's.
My fourth LJN fig was the One Man Gang. I got him when Toys 'R Us opened their first store in Idaho (in Boise). I had enough money for one fig, and they had a BUNCH. I remember wanting a Honky Tonk Man, but not having found one, I settled for OMG. The only others different ones I remember seeing were Hacksaw Duggan, Koko B. Ware & Bam Bam Bigelow. Wish I would have picked up the Bigelow instead! I've always found OMG to be too small.
I remember in 1991 or so, a local consolidation store had a bunch (about 20 or so) Ultimate Warriors for $3 each. Still kicking myself for not buying at least one.
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Post by jason1980s on Mar 17, 2020 14:03:41 GMT -5
"Oddly enough in 1998 at a "Value Village" store my grandmother found a majority of the 1988 releases. " Hi Jason, do you remember who any of these were? It was Ax, Honkytonk, Duggan, Gang, Dibiase and Koko B. Ware (who I always thought was 1988 because he was in that Wrestling Ring ad).
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Post by ozz on Mar 17, 2020 22:28:25 GMT -5
I've seen some samples and this book is looking great! Sadly I think with the latest Hasbro book issues, not many are going to be too excited around here. Good luck though, man! Ozz is the man members should look up to for LJN knowledge. When I was starting to learn more about the end of the line and build my collection with rare toys and accessories, I wound up finding his website. This was long before a site like this existed. I am crazy about the LJNs because I love that time period in wrestling and the toys are so life like. Hasbro, Mattel and Jakks (sometimes) had the most accurate appearance but with LJNs as big as they are you really got to see a lot of detail even though they were just one large piece of rubber. I became a wrestling fan shortly after LJN line ended but luckily a few straggler carded toys could be found at TRUs and Rite Aid type stores. Since I wasn't around when the line was primarily in stores a lot of mystery surrounded the line, to me. For years I always thought the 1988 series was mail away only, not counting 1989, because I only ever saw images in that Wrestling Ring ad and no flea markets or yard sales ever had those 88 guys. Oddly enough in 1998 at a "Value Village" store my grandmother found a majority of the 1988 releases. Even though Hasbro gets a lot more love on this site, people still love the LJNs which makes me happy. To me that time period when LJNs were most prominent to just shortly after the line ended is the best time to be a wrestling fan. I'm talking 1985/86 to WrestleMania VI. Again, us members and LJN fans need to thank Ozz. When a lot of catalog and toy magazine dealers were only selling the basic figures from the early series, he was selling the toughies like Rick Rude, the accessories like Blassie and Fuji canes and providing us with every detail about the card back on the black card line. That's awesome man, very humbling! I only learned from others at the time who knew something, and I just took it all further with collecting, online presence, etc Nowadays the stuff people dig up is insane. Funny, because I ALWAYS had the notion to research ex-employees and dig for information, etc. but never considered it to be..."right" to bother people. But hey, others took the initiative and made tons of money off it by doing so later on. Don't care about that, but just think of how sooner the collecting world could have known about a lot of these things we've only found out in recent years had I done exactly that. As long as we know now, that's all that matters. I hope they keep unearthing previously-unknown tidbits! I think they will, like we just found out about the molded-but-not-prototyped Killer Khan this past year? Nobody ever heard of that before, at least that anyone else was aware of. There has to be more. I was selling loose 2x4s and nightsticks too, btw the good ol' days, keeping myself from a PT job in high school by dealing toys!
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Mar 17, 2020 23:07:26 GMT -5
My first LJN was Nikolai Volkoff. Got him at a store called Stedmans in Ontario, Canada.
My second one was Hulk Hogan, third was "Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff, and fourth was Jesse "the Body" Ventura.
I also remember buying Randy Savage and Elizabeth brand new as well at the same time, I got a Ted Arcidi and Kamala brand new for Christmas one year, I got two referee's, George Steele, Capt. Lou Albano, "Big" John Studd, Jimmy Hart, Classy Freddie Blassie, Tito Santana, "Mean" Gene Okerlund, "Cowboy" Bob Orton and Slick all brand new from stores too.
The rest of my collection, which was Hart Foundation, British Bulldogs, Terry Funk, Corp. Kirchner, Magnificent Muraco, Bruno Sammartino, King Kong Bundy, Andre the Giant, Iron Sheik, Roddy Piper, Greg Valentine, Hillbilly Jim, Junkyard Dog, Ricky Steamboat, SD Jones, Harley Race, Hercules Hernandez, Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan in the white shirt, and Rick Martel were all yard sale purchases.
Then in 1999 I sold that entire collection for just $80 because I figured they would be worth nothing because they were all beat up and played with. Boy did I make a huge blunder there. If I could go back in time to 1999 and tell my 18 year old self to keep these figures, that some of them would be worth hundreds alone! Oh well, live and learn.
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Post by michaelc on Mar 18, 2020 7:32:31 GMT -5
Great summary.. do you know when you got your Volkoff..he fits came out for Xmas 1985?
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Post by jason1980s on Mar 19, 2020 7:11:36 GMT -5
That's awesome man, very humbling! I only learned from others at the time who knew something, and I just took it all further with collecting, online presence, etc Nowadays the stuff people dig up is insane. Funny, because I ALWAYS had the notion to research ex-employees and dig for information, etc. but never considered it to be..."right" to bother people. But hey, others took the initiative and made tons of money off it by doing so later on. Don't care about that, but just think of how sooner the collecting world could have known about a lot of these things we've only found out in recent years had I done exactly that. As long as we know now, that's all that matters. I hope they keep unearthing previously-unknown tidbits! I think they will, like we just found out about the molded-but-not-prototyped Killer Khan this past year? Nobody ever heard of that before, at least that anyone else was aware of. There has to be more. I was selling loose 2x4s and nightsticks too, btw the good ol' days, keeping myself from a PT job in high school by dealing toys! To me, you were the first digging up stuff so I will credit you for my LJN knowledge. Big Brothers Toy Museum was a cool site with a lot of prototype shots but most LJNs were just from card backs and they never updated their site. Bossman and Hacksaw accessories must have been before or after my time. LOL. It's crazy how toy dealing can beat out a part time job sometimes. My first LJN was Nikolai Volkoff. Got him at a store called Stedmans in Ontario, Canada. My second one was Hulk Hogan, third was "Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff, and fourth was Jesse "the Body" Ventura. Then in 1999 I sold that entire collection for just $80 because I figured they would be worth nothing because they were all beat up and played with. Boy did I make a huge blunder there. If I could go back in time to 1999 and tell my 18 year old self to keep these figures, that some of them would be worth hundreds alone! Oh well, live and learn. I could probably name all the LJNs I got in the order I got them. Stuff like that sticks with you. Sorry you sold the whole collection. A lot of us have probably made those mistakes. Mine was having a large amount of carded Hasbros in the late 90s and taking them off the cards. I don't know why either, I had the same figures loose already. I sold some painted LJNs on ebay over the last month and even those are getting crazy prices. Despite Hasbro getting all the love on here, I'm glad the market shows that LJNs are great.
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Post by michaelc on Mar 19, 2020 7:50:53 GMT -5
Thanks Jason. Got a favourite LJN pickup from when you were a youngster back then?
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Post by jason1980s on Mar 19, 2020 10:13:01 GMT -5
Thanks Jason. Got a favourite LJN pickup from when you were a youngster back then? I liked everyone one of them but my favorite pickups were the ones still in the original package from stores just outside the time period. Around 1991, my father got Bob Orton and Mr. Fuji somewhere separately, my grandmother got Jesse Ventura at a Rite Aid in PA (we are from MD). In the same place I found a Ted Arcidi in early 1992. At Toys R Us in late 1991, separate occasions I got Freddie Blassie and Mean Gene.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 13:13:08 GMT -5
My first LJN figure was Iron Shiek in September or October of '84 at Woolworth's. I remember that specifically because the store was around the corner from school, so we'd usually stop by there on our way home. Other figures like Bundy, Beefcake and Valentine were purchased at Kresge's and some of the tag team sets were purchased at K-Mart. And then a lot of my other figures were purchased at a small local toy store called Smiling Sunny's in Staten Island, NY. I remember they would have a bunch of them in a half box a few feet away from the cash register and there would always be new figures each time I went. The bulk of my collection was probably gotten from various Christmas' and birthdays. Oh yeah and I remember randomly finding Mr. Wonderful at a small Asian shop that was in the mini mall where we went food shopping. They usually didn't carry stuff like that so it was weird to find it there.
Also, before they even came out...or maybe as they were coming out. I remember a segment on my local news WABC where they were showing the figures and interviewing some of the wrestlers. For some reason I think this took place at FAO Schwartz in Manhattan but it might've been at Toyfair. Anyway, I think maybe Hogan was there..but one guy who I'm positive was there Sgt.Slaughter, which makes me wonder now if a Slaughter prototype was shown there. And as a kid it made me hopeful that a Slaughter LJN figure was going to come out.
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