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Post by jdfranchise on Apr 15, 2022 22:29:49 GMT -5
Hey now everyone. Mesh here. As I read along to this discussion, I was hesitant making my presence known again. Even more so coming back. I know my initial departure wasn't exactly the best and I know it wasn't handled in the best way. In fact, I will say that I handled it very poorly. I left Thunder on his own to run the fed without so much as a whisper. In fact, I didn't tell anyone. The reason why I didn't say anything to anyone was because I knew how valued I was here and knew that if I made it known that I was leaving, I would be easily convinced not to. Because deep down inside, I really didn't want to leave. I just decided to just disappear from this place in a selfish act. I know I disappointed a lot of people and I'm sure it changed the perception of me on here so firstly, I wanted to come back and sincerely apologize to anyone that I upset or disappointed for how I left so abruptly. It broke my heart to see the decline of the fed shortly after I left. That wasn't supposed to happen. I wanted the fed to thrive and carry on as it always has. As time went on, I felt more and more like I was the one that killed the WFWF. Secondly, I wanted to explain why I left in the first place. You all deserve that. I was in a very dark place at that time. I was at my lowest. I just had gotten my heart broken by the love of the life and I didn't know how to deal with it. There wasn't a day where I wasn't crying. I'd be chatting with folks on here with tears in my eyes. It was hard waking up every morning and functioning so imagine, how hard it was for me to run the fed efficiently and smoothly. I know I made many mistakes during my time at the helm but I do hope that while I was co-owner, that everyone enjoyed their time here. I was told of the past baggage that came with this place which I inherited once I became co-owner so I made it my mission to ensure that the environment of the fed was more positive and welcoming. To give some perspective, there's a lot of pain behind my original RPs. One RP was written at the hospital while my grandfather, who I idolized was on his deathbed. One RP was written literally minutes after the aforementioned break-up. While Mesh, the character was always portrayed as bubbly and colorful, the writer behind her was bleak and dull but she was something of a catharsis for me. Writing as Mesh/Billy Broom as well as every curmudgeon in this family on ours were the highlights of my life for a long time. I am doing leagues better now. I'm getting back in shape, eating right, shining at work, I adopted a minimalist-esque lifestyle and decluttered 99.9% of my things which did wonders for my mental health and through Buddhism, I learned about mediation and being present in the moment and living a calmer and more peaceful life. Most importantly, I managed to get over my ex, which I never thought would be possible. When I left, it felt like a part of me was missing. Like something in my life was gone. That's when I knew that I loved this place. And all of you. I'm not expecting to be welcomed back so easily but I hope that I can earn everyone's trust again and be a part of the fed for the foreseeable future. veronicaaaahhhh - I miss you. I am so sorry for disappearing on you. I hope you manage to see this. <3 Johnny Mason - I owe you a storyline. If you're still around, let's finish what we started. Thirdly, Swarm - We haven't had the pleasure of talking before but it's nice to finally meet another name of the past. I'm 100% on board with this new direction of the fed. I am willing to do anything needed to help the fed. I've always likened Mesh to someone like Jake Roberts - their character being strong enough that they didn't need to win the big one. I want to tell good, memorable stories first and foremost. I do like the fact that we, as a collective have all agreed that match summaries are the way to go when putting shows together. The one thing that would always kill me was match writing. Even the 2-3 page summaries I was doing near the end of my last run would leave completely me drained. I like the idea of building to a singular pay-per-view every month as opposed to the standard formula of having one pay-per-view-like show every month. That will allow for everyone involved to not have to write a 200 page essay every month like we used to. If we keep things short, sweet and for lack of a better word, minimal it could result in bigger turnout from the roster and that is what is needed: consistency. I think you, good sir and Thunder (if he's still active on here) are the best people to lead this new charge to the WFWF and inject a new dose of life in this place. Coming back as Mesh/Billy Broom full-time, I would be available to assist in pretty much every WFWF function needed. I'm here to stay. Well, I was wondering if/when we'd see you again. Welcome home, old friend. Guys, I think we have some legs here. And why not? There has been an outpouring of support from people who want to see this place back up and running. And I think we should do it.
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Post by Johnny Mason on Apr 16, 2022 1:52:13 GMT -5
@0tseg0amig0 I’m in.
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Post by Markw on Apr 16, 2022 2:31:40 GMT -5
Hey now everyone. Mesh here. ... Makes me so happy to see you back Sorry things were tough but glad they're better now.
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Post by Markw on Apr 16, 2022 13:08:36 GMT -5
How would people feel about having a WFWF Discord? Might help keep things active during downtime/keep people active?
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Post by jdfranchise on Apr 16, 2022 13:52:00 GMT -5
I'd be willing to do it since I'm on Discord enough with games.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 14:09:55 GMT -5
How would people feel about having a WFWF Discord? Might help keep things active during downtime/keep people active? I'd be down to get back on Discord again.
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Post by jdfranchise on Apr 16, 2022 14:57:20 GMT -5
How would people feel about having a WFWF Discord? Might help keep things active during downtime/keep people active? I'd be down to get back on Discord again. Come on in! The water's fine
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Post by sonstuds on Apr 16, 2022 15:19:35 GMT -5
Can I request that we officially name the WFWF Discord "The Danger Zone"?
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Post by Swarm on Apr 16, 2022 15:23:15 GMT -5
I think that with changing tides in a lot of our lives that have grown much older from when we first started, a change in how it is paced in an efed. I know most of efeds are long gone because they couldn't reinvent as things grew different. I might be willing for another small go around, if only to help breathe life back into this place and maybe attract newcomers to take over as we go. I think I love the idea of an rp word limit as long as it fits the match and fits with not being terribly restrictive but also force people to take more direct or creative routes instead of the long winded rps of the past, of which I was a firm believer in when I was much younger. Something more focused and delivered regularly I think would spark more interest from new people than feeling like they are coming into something hard to get their footing in. I agree 100%! I think along with that having very linear/accessible paths for people to progress on is a big deal as well. I like the idea of having the National Title but perhaps with the prerequisite that it is literally a title limited to individuals with less than a certain amount of experience and it would be defended very frequently like a TV Title so it's always being held by new folks. Also the prospect of a Reverend Shadow/Jason Jadoa return is very exciting... =D
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Post by Swarm on Apr 16, 2022 15:31:22 GMT -5
Hey now everyone. Mesh here. As I read along to this discussion, I was hesitant making my presence known again. Even more so coming back. I know my initial departure wasn't exactly the best and I know it wasn't handled in the best way. In fact, I will say that I handled it very poorly. I left Thunder on his own to run the fed without so much as a whisper. In fact, I didn't tell anyone. The reason why I didn't say anything to anyone was because I knew how valued I was here and knew that if I made it known that I was leaving, I would be easily convinced not to. Because deep down inside, I really didn't want to leave. I just decided to just disappear from this place in a selfish act. I know I disappointed a lot of people and I'm sure it changed the perception of me on here so firstly, I wanted to come back and sincerely apologize to anyone that I upset or disappointed for how I left so abruptly. It broke my heart to see the decline of the fed shortly after I left. That wasn't supposed to happen. I wanted the fed to thrive and carry on as it always has. As time went on, I felt more and more like I was the one that killed the WFWF. Secondly, I wanted to explain why I left in the first place. You all deserve that. I was in a very dark place at that time. I was at my lowest. I just had gotten my heart broken by the love of the life and I didn't know how to deal with it. There wasn't a day where I wasn't crying. I'd be chatting with folks on here with tears in my eyes. It was hard waking up every morning and functioning so imagine, how hard it was for me to run the fed efficiently and smoothly. I know I made many mistakes during my time at the helm but I do hope that while I was co-owner, that everyone enjoyed their time here. I was told of the past baggage that came with this place which I inherited once I became co-owner so I made it my mission to ensure that the environment of the fed was more positive and welcoming. To give some perspective, there's a lot of pain behind my original RPs. One RP was written at the hospital while my grandfather, who I idolized was on his deathbed. One RP was written literally minutes after the aforementioned break-up. While Mesh, the character was always portrayed as bubbly and colorful, the writer behind her was bleak and dull but she was something of a catharsis for me. Writing as Mesh/Billy Broom as well as every curmudgeon in this family on ours were the highlights of my life for a long time. I am doing leagues better now. I'm getting back in shape, eating right, shining at work, I adopted a minimalist-esque lifestyle and decluttered 99.9% of my things which did wonders for my mental health and through Buddhism, I learned about mediation and being present in the moment and living a calmer and more peaceful life. Most importantly, I managed to get over my ex, which I never thought would be possible. When I left, it felt like a part of me was missing. Like something in my life was gone. That's when I knew that I loved this place. And all of you. I'm not expecting to be welcomed back so easily but I hope that I can earn everyone's trust again and be a part of the fed for the foreseeable future. veronicaaaahhhh - I miss you. I am so sorry for disappearing on you. I hope you manage to see this. <3 Johnny Mason - I owe you a storyline. If you're still around, let's finish what we started. Thirdly, Swarm - We haven't had the pleasure of talking before but it's nice to finally meet another name of the past. I'm 100% on board with this new direction of the fed. I am willing to do anything needed to help the fed. I've always likened Mesh to someone like Jake Roberts - their character being strong enough that they didn't need to win the big one. I want to tell good, memorable stories first and foremost. I do like the fact that we, as a collective have all agreed that match summaries are the way to go when putting shows together. The one thing that would always kill me was match writing. Even the 2-3 page summaries I was doing near the end of my last run would leave completely me drained. I like the idea of building to a singular pay-per-view every month as opposed to the standard formula of having one pay-per-view-like show every month. That will allow for everyone involved to not have to write a 200 page essay every month like we used to. If we keep things short, sweet and for lack of a better word, minimal it could result in bigger turnout from the roster and that is what is needed: consistency. I think you, good sir and Thunder (if he's still active on here) are the best people to lead this new charge to the WFWF and inject a new dose of life in this place. Coming back as Mesh/Billy Broom full-time, I would be available to assist in pretty much every WFWF function needed. I'm here to stay. It is a pleasure to meet you as well! I think almost everyone here at one time or another has had to leave abruptly / not in the best of ways for one reason or another and quite often it is the stresses of life becoming so oppressive juxtaposed with doing this, especially as an owner, feeling more and more like a burden that are to cause. It sounds like you did what you needed to do to take care of yourself and that is what's important. I'm glad to hear that you are doing well and am very excited that you want to be a part of things moving forward!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 15:32:48 GMT -5
I think that with changing tides in a lot of our lives that have grown much older from when we first started, a change in how it is paced in an efed. I know most of efeds are long gone because they couldn't reinvent as things grew different. I might be willing for another small go around, if only to help breathe life back into this place and maybe attract newcomers to take over as we go. I think I love the idea of an rp word limit as long as it fits the match and fits with not being terribly restrictive but also force people to take more direct or creative routes instead of the long winded rps of the past, of which I was a firm believer in when I was much younger. Something more focused and delivered regularly I think would spark more interest from new people than feeling like they are coming into something hard to get their footing in. I agree 100%! I think along with that having very linear/accessible paths for people to progress on is a big deal as well. I like the idea of having the National Title but perhaps with the prerequisite that it is literally a title limited to individuals with less than a certain amount of experience and it would be defended very frequently like a TV Title so it's always being held by new folks. Also the prospect of a Reverend Shadow/Jason Jadoa return is very exciting... =D We have the Vanguard Championship to serve that purpose. It's moreso for newer/less experienced writers to feud over as they continue to grow. We can implement those sort of guidelines for the Vanguard Champions. The current champion Johnny Mason did that for a segment on one of the last shows I was involved in, like an open challenge. I love that idea. It gives the Vanguard Championship more prestige if defended weekly.
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Post by Swarm on Apr 16, 2022 15:36:01 GMT -5
How would people feel about having a WFWF Discord? Might help keep things active during downtime/keep people active? That's a great idea! I actually have a different (and hopefully) exciting idea to drum up... and I apologize for using a buzzword but... engagement... however I don't want to throw that out there just yet... Regardless I think a Discord chat would be great! I am on there btw as Acknowledged Geode #6631 so anyone here can feel free to add me if you want to chat. =D
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Post by Markw on Apr 16, 2022 16:09:48 GMT -5
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Post by jdfranchise on Apr 16, 2022 16:19:28 GMT -5
Can I request that we officially name the WFWF Discord "The Danger Zone"?
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Post by Swarm on Apr 16, 2022 16:27:20 GMT -5
Greetings, ya'll! So it seems to me like there might be something here. If I am not mistaken, the following members have indicated an interest (keeping in mind an interest is not necessarily a commitment of course) in being involved; Swarm @0tseg0amig0
If I am speaking for anyone too much there please feel free to correct me! Additionally, it seems like there's been some engagement/interest from Rated R and CM Poor . I don't mean to put ya'll on any sort of spot I just want to make sure you're included in the discussion. Right now that puts us at eight folks interested / committed. I think if we can get that number to 12/15, we have a real case here. That number is my personal instinct but if you folks disagree, like I've said, this is a dialogue so please feel free to express that and we can take it into account. In that spirit, if we are going to make this a reality it's going to be a team effort because we want it to be a reality. What that means in a literal sense is, if ya'll know some lapsed members who you think might be interested, maybe you could reach out? I really wouldn't feel comfortable just cold-PMing folks, especially a lot of the modern RPers who I don't know personally. So I guess this is a bit of a call to action; Let's work together and see if we can boost that number up.
In my mind right now, my strategy is as follows; If we can reach a number we all consider strong enough to make a go at this, I would like to then message Jack to indicate what we would like to do and represent the support we have. My hope would be he would then approve and I would get a moderator spot and if that were to be the case, we could then move forward.
I suppose the elephant in the room in that sense is Thunder . I certainly am not intending on stepping on toes. To be completely transparent, I suggested to Thunder that I could help out with things last Summer and he made it clear he was not interested in that. I respected that and was aiming on returning at that point purely as a RPer, in fact we even began setting up the angle to bring my character back on the last show that was posted. From there, the events of the last card transpired and since September... well you guys know the deal. I've wanted to make a post such as the first one I made a week or so ago since about then but out of respect for Thunder I have avoided doing so. If he'd like to weigh in on how he feels about all of this, whether he wants to be involved in some way, of course that would be valuable to know. I do believe though that it appears we have a consensus thus far on the general path forward and it is a path forward that has been arrived at based on a lot of the things people had been saying for a long time needed to change that Thunder was pretty consistently disinterested in hearing. I don't mean to be hostile in any way but I do think that is a pretty accurate summation of where things are at. I guess all of that being said, I would not be incorporating his involvement in any plans moving forward based on where things are at now. I hope that sounds fair and reasonable to you folks. If not, again, this is a dialogue.
So I think that is where things are at with all of this moving forward. I encourage ya'll to reach out to Markw regarding joining the Discord server. Maybe we could set up a formal chat where we can kind of have a town hall of sorts to communicate a little more directly. Altogether these have been some really exciting developments and I am legitimately optimistic!
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Post by Revvie® on Apr 16, 2022 20:16:26 GMT -5
I wanna say something real quick. I am definitely not the sentimental sort, but WFWF and efedding in general played such a role in my life( and it seems a lot of our lives). It is something to see to have so many of those of us I have known, fought with IC and OOC, laughed, and found our little niche in the world wide web with each other. The very fact so many can feel some obligation to what I consider a dying art form, and a federation on forum board that made us feel like champions. This all amazes me in such a positive way.
We may not all be here often, and most of us have watched it through ups and downs. But when the chips were down, came together, and what to see it continue forward even if change is needed.
I cannot stress that without Alex, and so many others now coming forward, it may have been lost to time like everything else. I don't know how much some of you know the history of this fed or how many of you would even care to know. BUT me ever complimenting Alex on anything, must mean something. HAHA I joke, but in all seriousness Thank you Alex for making your post and drawing us all to save this place. And thank you everyone involved. Maybe we see it thrive again, and maybe we dont. But we didnt let it go without a fight.
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Post by jdfranchise on Apr 16, 2022 20:29:25 GMT -5
I wanna say something real quick. I am definitely not the sentimental sort, but WFWF and efedding in general played such a role in my life( and it seems a lot of our lives). It is something to see to have so many of those of us I have known, fought with IC and OOC, laughed, and found our little niche in the world wide web with each other. The very fact so many can feel some obligation to what I consider a dying art form, and a federation on forum board that made us feel like champions. This all amazes me in such a positive way. We may not all be here often, and most of us have watched it through ups and downs. But when the chips were down, came together, and what to see it continue forward even if change is needed. I cannot stress that without Alex, and so many others now coming forward, it may have been lost to time like everything else. I don't know how much some of you know the history of this fed or how many of you would even care to know. BUT me ever complimenting Alex on anything, must mean something. HAHA I joke, but in all seriousness Thank you Alex for making your post and drawing us all to save this place. And thank you everyone involved. Maybe we see it thrive again, and maybe we dont. But we didnt let it go without a fight. 100% Now we just need to get you on the Discord server, Rev.
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Post by Swarm on Apr 16, 2022 22:39:15 GMT -5
I wanna say something real quick. I am definitely not the sentimental sort, but WFWF and efedding in general played such a role in my life( and it seems a lot of our lives). It is something to see to have so many of those of us I have known, fought with IC and OOC, laughed, and found our little niche in the world wide web with each other. The very fact so many can feel some obligation to what I consider a dying art form, and a federation on forum board that made us feel like champions. This all amazes me in such a positive way. We may not all be here often, and most of us have watched it through ups and downs. But when the chips were down, came together, and what to see it continue forward even if change is needed. I cannot stress that without Alex, and so many others now coming forward, it may have been lost to time like everything else. I don't know how much some of you know the history of this fed or how many of you would even care to know. BUT me ever complimenting Alex on anything, must mean something. HAHA I joke, but in all seriousness Thank you Alex for making your post and drawing us all to save this place. And thank you everyone involved. Maybe we see it thrive again, and maybe we dont. But we didnt let it go without a fight. Aw shucks...
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Post by CM Poor on Apr 17, 2022 7:49:06 GMT -5
Look at y'all resurrecting this thing like it's Jesus on....well, today.
TBH, any time I once had to dedicate to something like this has flown right out the window. My job has become exponentially more demanding over the course of the pandemic. My kid is older. My health has markedly worsened and I'm making light efforts to get myself back to something resembling "healthy". All my individual "recreational" time at this point has been dedicated to civic endeavors. Y'all might remember that I held a couple of elected roles as an election official in town. I was recently re-elected to a second consecutive term as the chief election official for my ward. Last week, after a month of interviews and confirmation hearings, I was confirmed in my appointment to a mayoral advisory committee in the city, and I'm very strongly considering a run for the city council next summer/fall.
As much as I love the old bastard, David Brennan is best left where I left him - on his back in the middle of the ring at SuperBrawl.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 14:44:16 GMT -5
TBH, any time I once had to dedicate to something like this has flown right out the window. My job has become exponentially more demanding over the course of the pandemic. My kid is older. My health has markedly worsened and I'm making light efforts to get myself back to something resembling "healthy". All my individual "recreational" time at this point has been dedicated to civic endeavors. Y'all might remember that I held a couple of elected roles as an election official in town. I was recently re-elected to a second consecutive term as the chief election official for my ward. Last week, after a month of interviews and confirmation hearings, I was confirmed in my appointment to a mayoral advisory committee in the city, and I'm very strongly considering a run for the city council next summer/fall. My heart shall continue to yearn for Dave and Awut. #neverforget
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