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Post by snowjorden on Apr 22, 2020 15:20:59 GMT -5
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Apr 22, 2020 15:33:58 GMT -5
Doesn't factor in WFigs. Fake news lol
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Post by Yambag Jones on Apr 22, 2020 15:43:46 GMT -5
First of all, WWE doesn't hire professional wrestlers, the hire independent contractors to be sports entertainers. lol
I mean, by those metrics it's Ryder by a mile. If you look at actual in ring performance, I don't know if any of them are main event draws. MAYBE Rusev, but no one knows if he has a passion to pursue being a top-tier wrestler.
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Post by snowjorden on Apr 22, 2020 16:08:50 GMT -5
First of all, WWE doesn't hire professional wrestlers, the hire independent contractors to be sports entertainers. lol I mean, by those metrics it's Ryder by a mile. If you look at actual in ring performance, I don't know if any of them are main event draws. MAYBE Rusev, but no one knows if he has a passion to pursue being a top-tier wrestler. They turn professional wrestlers into sports entertainers, sure. When hired, most are pretty decent professional wrestlers to begin with. As far as these metrics, I'm not sure what other way you could possibly measure. In-ring performance is subjective based on opinion.. so you can't really use that to measure anything. |
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Post by K5 on Apr 22, 2020 16:13:04 GMT -5
I do think Ryder being a part of the company could benefit them, but I’m not very interested to see it. same with Rusev.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Apr 22, 2020 17:35:03 GMT -5
First of all, WWE doesn't hire professional wrestlers, the hire independent contractors to be sports entertainers. lol I mean, by those metrics it's Ryder by a mile. If you look at actual in ring performance, I don't know if any of them are main event draws. MAYBE Rusev, but no one knows if he has a passion to pursue being a top-tier wrestler. They turn professional wrestlers into sports entertainers, sure. When hired, most are pretty decent professional wrestlers to begin with. As far as these metrics, I'm not sure what other way you could possibly measure. In-ring performance is subjective based on opinion.. so you can't really use that to measure anything. It is based on opinion, but we all knew Moxley would be a main event money drawing guy. None of those released feel that way. By those numbers Zach Ryder should be THE top guy in AEW. That doesn't mean he should be. I think the guy is great and gets himself over like very few can and would be valuable, but there's a difference between social media hits and drawing a paid crowd. |
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Post by snowjorden on Apr 22, 2020 17:59:32 GMT -5
but there's a difference between social media hits and drawing a paid crowd. Didn't Cody Rhodes & The Young Bucks prove that social media hits CAN directly correlate to drawing a paid crowd though? Isn't it the social presence and popularity of The Young Bucks that has brought us to where we are today, talking on an AEW sub-forum at WFigs? (playing devils advocate, yet again). By the by, The Young Bucks will tell people there's no BTE without Z True Long Island Story, therefore does Matt Cardona get credit for AEW?  |
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Post by @brit_figs on Apr 23, 2020 7:32:13 GMT -5
BROSKI = RATINGS
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Post by Yambag Jones on Apr 23, 2020 11:35:29 GMT -5
but there's a difference between social media hits and drawing a paid crowd. Didn't Cody Rhodes & The Young Bucks prove that social media hits CAN directly correlate to drawing a paid crowd though? Isn't it the social presence and popularity of The Young Bucks that has brought us to where we are today, talking on an AEW sub-forum at WFigs? (playing devils advocate, yet again). By the by, The Young Bucks will tell people there's no BTE without Z True Long Island Story, therefore does Matt Cardona get credit for AEW? I don't get what you're trying to say. Do you think they should bring in Ryder and push him as a top guy? |
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Post by greenjack1992 on May 7, 2020 5:55:52 GMT -5
I think Ryder should go and reinvent himself in Japan or on the indies for a while before making the jump to AEW, simply because he really has been an actual WWE jobber for fourteen years and it will do nothing for the company's image to bring him in and make him a top guy. Let him do what Lance Hoyt did.
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Post by Yambag Jones on May 7, 2020 9:25:06 GMT -5
I think Ryder should go and reinvent himself in Japan or on the indies for a while before making the jump to AEW, simply because he really has been an actual WWE jobber for fourteen years and it will do nothing for the company's image to bring him in and make him a top guy. Let him do what Lance Hoyt did. Splitting time between NJPW & RoH is probably his best move. |
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on May 8, 2020 4:13:22 GMT -5
None of them are draws - that's why the biggest wrestling company in the world, just binned them. If I had to give an anwer, at a push, I'd say Rusev.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on May 8, 2020 4:55:11 GMT -5
You never know, In 5 years time...
Erick Rowan could be the biggest thing in Wrestling, being fought for by NJPW, AEW & WWE.
Zack Ryder could be working small indie shows, solely relying on the Major Podcast for income & relevancy.
Rusev could be happily retired with Lana.
Heath Slater could be running for Mayor.
Gallows & Anderson could be mascots for a Japanese Cereal company.
Don't take this too seriously.
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Post by snowjorden on May 8, 2020 15:21:21 GMT -5
None of them are draws - that's why the biggest wrestling company in the world, just binned them. If I had to give an anwer, at a push, I'd say Rusev. That take would hold some merit, if by design, WWE didn't intentionally hold people back from becoming a draw. As it were, they do, thus their "binning" wasn't relative whatsoever to their "drawing power." But hey, keep being controversial, |
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Post by snowjorden on May 8, 2020 15:22:41 GMT -5
You never know, In 5 years time... Erick Rowan could be the biggest thing in Wrestling, being fought for by NJPW, AEW & WWE. Zack Ryder could be working small indie shows, solely relying on the Major Podcast for income & relevancy. Rusev could be happily retired with Lana. Heath Slater could be running for Mayor. Gallows & Anderson could be mascots for a Japanese Cereal company. Don't take this too seriously.I'm moving to wherever Slater is the Mayor and my cabinets are going to be stocked with that Japanese Cereal, that's facts you CAN take seriously. |
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Post by greenjack1992 on May 8, 2020 18:16:03 GMT -5
None of them are draws - that's why the biggest wrestling company in the world, just binned them. If I had to give an anwer, at a push, I'd say Rusev. I think it's more a question of which of the releases has the greatest potential to get new eyes on Dynamite each week. The number of Twitter followers Zack Ryder has is double the number of weekly viewers Dynamite gets each week, so if he sends a tweet about the company he's definitely exposing the product to people who aren't watching. I don't think it's a question of who could be the face of the company or sell out arenas. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 8, 2020 19:22:30 GMT -5
Ryder, Hawkins, Rowan and Rusev to AEW
Gallows and Anderson to NJPW
Slater to NWA
Eric Young to Impact Wrestling
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on May 14, 2020 7:39:54 GMT -5
Can't really equate Instagram follows into drawing ability in pro wrestling. I'm willing to wager one of the tittyful Instagram girls has more followers than Hogan.
In terms of who could help benifit AEW I'd say The Revival (The Revoult) Gallows and Anderson and Rusev.
I think they have to be Very careful of turning into WWE lite though they already have 2 former WWE guys headlining their next PPV for the championship I'm happy to see them there both of em deserve it but I'm just saying be careful going forward.
I hear Rusev may not be wrestling anymore he's doing more video game streaming or something, I've heard the Revivals name and NWA together a lot too...
I think Cody may recruit Slater and Ryder though which I'm not really excited for.
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